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deacon blues 12-12-2008 10:49 PM

How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
You know, its getting closer every day! Are you excited? Got your bags packed? Got your house in order? What a day that will be!!!!

1Th 4:14-17

For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Ritamuffin57 12-12-2008 11:08 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Not a day goes by that it's not on my mind. I love life, but who can deny, "There's something in the air!" :christmasfire

Revelationist 12-13-2008 06:28 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 656262)
Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. [/I][/B]

Are we not with the Lord now?

Truthseeker 12-13-2008 06:30 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
not me

Revelationist 12-13-2008 06:41 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Heb 13:5
5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
KJV

The scripture is clear that He would never leave us... we are forever with Him now if we live for Him.

StMark 12-13-2008 06:43 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 656328)
not me



Why not?

StMark 12-13-2008 06:44 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 656336)
Heb 13:5
5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
KJV

The scripture is clear that He would never leave us... we are forever with Him now if we live for Him.



DB, what do you have to say to people who don't believe in the rapture?

StMark 12-13-2008 06:47 AM

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I'm excited about the ratpure. I think more and more of God's people who dreaded the rapture will start longing for it now that they see the world going to pot.
I was in a city yesterday known for being extrodonarily evil and kept thinking " I don't belong in this world.... it's time to get out of here"

nahkoe 12-13-2008 07:04 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 656262)
You know, its getting closer every day! Are you excited? Got your bags packed? Got your house in order? What a day that will be!!!!

I'm not. There's no way to know if it'll happen in my lifetime. I'd rather just live my life and enjoy today rather than focusing so much energy on something not guaranteed I'll even see (that's if it's even something still in the future..lol)

Apprehended 12-13-2008 07:17 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Many dreams, hopes, plans and futures have been aborted out of false expectations of an immediate "at any moment" rapture. Lives have been wasted on a useless expectation that never happened. We have Mr. Darby fthat thank for the "rapture" doctrine and those who picked up on it and has been spreading that error, ever since.

I long for Jesus to come back. I expect to see Him one day. It is my vision and hope to see Him at His return. If I am deceased before His return, I will come back with Him. If I am still alive when He returns, I will meet Him in the air, joining all who have gone before me to continue with Jesus and them in their descent to the earth.

Apprehended 12-13-2008 07:27 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 656336)
Heb 13:5
5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
KJV

The scripture is clear that He would never leave us... we are forever with Him now if we live for Him.

...eehh, don't look now but...

He did not leave or forsake Paul the Apostle...

who ALSO wrote I Thes 4:16, who ALSO wrote the first chapter of II Thes. and many other scriptures related to his future return.

He was WITH Paul then, WHO also expected His RETURN.

Revelationist 12-13-2008 07:49 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Maybe the churches attitude of, "why polish the brass on a sinking ship" is the reason this old world is getting in the shape she's in....

ManOfWord 12-13-2008 08:20 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Well, I'm ready for the rapture.......of that I have no doubt!!! Many others are not ready. I'm not near as excited about the Rapture as I am about the opportunities which are before us in these times as far as reaching people is concerned. That doesn't mean that the Rapture is a non-event for me, it just means that I'll be busy when it happens! :D

Cindy 12-13-2008 08:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 656376)
Well, I'm ready for the rapture.......of that I have no doubt!!! Many others are not ready. I'm not near as excited about the Rapture as I am about the opportunities which are before us in these times as far as reaching people is concerned. That doesn't mean that the Rapture is a non-event for me, it just means that I'll be busy when it happens! :D

Amen!!!!

Apprehended 12-13-2008 08:42 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 656371)
Maybe the churches attitude of, "why polish the brass on a sinking ship" is the reason this old world is getting in the shape she's in....

I didn't know of any churches that had such an attitude as I see most of them striving daily to make thier communities a better place for all to live in.

Maybe I don't understand the thought behind the comment. Care to explain?

Jermyn Davidson 12-13-2008 09:09 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
I believe in the catching away of the saints. I want to be ready for it. I want it to happen soon, but not today.

Maybe I'm being selfish, or worse.

But I sure would like the opportunity to be a faithful husband and loving father.

I'd like to be a Chaplain for the military one day.

There are other things I simply want to do right, consistently, knowing the thrill of victory, as a Christian man, in this life, before Christ returns for us.


I hesitated in posting this because I think that maybe I should not think this way.

But these are my thoughts.

I love His appearing, love it every time He appears in my life. I do want to go back with Him when He comes, and that will only happen by His Grace and Mercy because I know I am poor and needy.

Sister Alvear 12-13-2008 09:22 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
I am doing my est to reach all I can...however I believe tribulation before rapture...but not enough to discuss it...countless hours are wasted by people that want their opinion accepted...
If rapture comes first I feel I am ready for that too....however as a whole the church majors in minors and minors in majors...doing a lot of STUFF he never told us to do...some of it good but the needy thing we sometimes push on the back burner....

(just my opinion)

Revelationist 12-13-2008 11:40 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 656385)
I didn't know of any churches that had such an attitude as I see most of them striving daily to make thier communities a better place for all to live in.

Maybe I don't understand the thought behind the comment. Care to explain?

I don't see any scriptures that teach a Rapture...

Timmy 12-13-2008 11:44 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
I could probably think of 88 reasons not to believe in a rapture! :toofunny

mfblume 12-13-2008 11:50 AM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
I am excited about the rapture and am looking forward to it, and am ready!

RandyWayne 12-13-2008 01:12 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
All I know is that it will happen any night -soon! This is why we stopped planning for our retirement. In fact, if you have any kids the odds of them graduating high school before it happens are practically nil! So just pull them out now and prepare yourself in your backyard! And whatever you do, do NOT take your eyes off of your husband/wife/parents! For if you do, BLAM, you will be left behind!

Apprehended 12-13-2008 01:25 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 656509)
I don't see any scriptures that teach a Rapture...

Really? You don't? Are you serious?

How about one that teaches "caught up to meet Him in the air?" How about one that teaches something about, "Our gathering together unto Him?" How about the many other scriptures that speak of such things?

Revelationist 12-13-2008 02:03 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 656585)
Really? You don't? Are you serious?

How about one that teaches "caught up to meet Him in the air?" How about one that teaches something about, "Our gathering together unto Him?" How about the many other scriptures that speak of such things?

2 Cor 12:2
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
KJV

2 Cor 12:4
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
KJV

Was this what happened to this man? Was he Raptured when he was caught up?

HappyTown 12-13-2008 02:09 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
I don't enjoy flying!

Apprehended 12-13-2008 03:23 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 656603)
2 Cor 12:2
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
KJV

2 Cor 12:4
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
KJV

Was this what happened to this man? Was he Raptured when he was caught up?

In a sense yes. He was (raptured) caught up in his spirit.

Now, that puts an end to your objection to the rapture doctrine, from your own scriptures.

So, let's expand it to not only a rapture in the spiritual sense that one Apostle had, but expand the idea that all of the living and the dead will experience IN THE NATURAL.

See I Thes 4:14-17.

Apprehended 12-13-2008 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 656607)
I don't enjoy flying!

Relax.

You may not have to.

Revelationist 12-13-2008 03:30 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 656649)
In a sense yes. He was (raptured) caught up in his spirit.

Now, that puts an end to your objection to the rapture doctrine, from your own scriptures.

Hmm... so, is that all the Rapture is about? That happens evertime someone get's the Holy Ghost doesn't it... they are caught up to forever be with the Lord, right?

ronharvey 12-13-2008 03:31 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 656355)
Many dreams, hopes, plans and futures have been aborted out of false expectations of an immediate "at any moment" rapture. Lives have been wasted on a useless expectation that never happened. We have Mr. Darby fthat thank for the "rapture" doctrine and those who picked up on it and has been spreading that error, ever since.

I long for Jesus to come back. I expect to see Him one day. It is my vision and hope to see Him at His return. If I am deceased before His return, I will come back with Him. If I am still alive when He returns, I will meet Him in the air, joining all who have gone before me to continue with Jesus and them in their descent to the earth.

That is most likely the reason Jesus said "Occupy till I come."

Occupy is a military word, it doesn't mean to stand around, it means to conquer, abide and watch.

meBNme 12-13-2008 03:38 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 656336)
Heb 13:5
5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
KJV

The scripture is clear that He would never leave us... we are forever with Him now if we live for Him.

dude..... he's omnipresent.

Of course he's always wit us!

HappyTown 12-13-2008 03:40 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 656650)
Relax.

You may not have to.

I'm more on the lines with Revelationist, in that it's already taken place.....

Apprehended 12-13-2008 03:43 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ronharvey (Post 656653)
That is most likely the reason Jesus said "Occupy till I come."

Occupy is a military word, it doesn't mean to stand around, it means to conquer, abide and watch.

Amen, brother.

That's the way I see it too.

There have been many embarassed purveyors of false escatology who also set dates. Miller who said in 1844 that the rapture would catch him and his followers away on a certain date. It didn't happen so wth a little embarrassment which was easily explained, he moved it up to the following year. Much more embarrassed, he moved the date up a few months in the same year. Hahaha. How much embarrassment can one false preacher stand anyway?

I remember well the six day war in 1966 when everything was on "go" for the rapture when the Jews took the old city of Jerusalem. Youth camps were being preached all over the USA. Kids and parents along with preachers were in panic mode. Psychological break downs were happening and some had to be attended to by physicians. How well I remember sitting in V.A. Guidroz's home who was the Tex. D.S. as he told me that they had to call for the parents to come to pick up some of the panicked kids.

Remember 88 reasons. Another joke that so many deceived about the certain points of prophecy were willing to believe. No problem though, the writer of 88 reasons simply wrote another book, 89 Reasons The Rapture In '89. I don't know if he wrote the 90 Reasons book or not. Anyway, by that time he was soundly discredited.

meBNme 12-13-2008 03:53 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 656397)
I believe in the catching away of the saints. I want to be ready for it. I want it to happen soon, but not today.

Maybe I'm being selfish, or worse.

But I sure would like the opportunity to be a faithful husband and loving father.

I'd like to be a Chaplain for the military one day.

There are other things I simply want to do right, consistently, knowing the thrill of victory, as a Christian man, in this life, before Christ returns for us.


I hesitated in posting this because I think that maybe I should not think this way.
But these are my thoughts.

I love His appearing, love it every time He appears in my life. I do want to go back with Him when He comes, and that will only happen by His Grace and Mercy because I know I am poor and needy.

I did too back when I was single. I wanted to get married first, then I wanted to be a father. Now I want to see our daughter born and be "daddy" to daddies littel girl. I'll probably want to see our son, and daddies little girl get married too. LOL

I think its natural of folks who have the joy of the Lord, and a positive outlook on life to want to participate in the things God may have for us.

I will admit that over the last few years I have become increasingly concerned about the future of this country and this world for my kids.

I think it will reach a point where real christians are so out of place in this world that we want the return and rapture far more than to stay and reach those type of goals. But I know many people who have and do feel the way you described.

Neck 12-13-2008 04:07 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 656336)
Heb 13:5
5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
KJV

The scripture is clear that He would never leave us... we are forever with Him now if we live for Him.

It is one thing to be in Christ and he in us.

It is another to be in the transfigured state of full redemption.

Which we will not know until we taste death and are then called away to meet him in the clouds or glory or one of the ones that remains still when the catching away happens.

At the state of full redemption we will know Christ....

That will be a great day...

The service that will never end....

I say we have church great music and the best preaching with Christ himself revealing more of who he is to us....

Apprehended 12-13-2008 04:08 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 656652)
Hmm... so, is that all the Rapture is about? That happens evertime someone get's the Holy Ghost doesn't it... they are caught up to forever be with the Lord, right?

Why would you deliberately misquote me by posting only a part of what I said? Here is what I said:

Quote:

In a sense yes. He was (raptured) caught up in his spirit.

Now, that puts an end to your objection to the rapture doctrine, from your own scriptures.

So, let's expand it to not only a rapture in the spiritual sense that one Apostle had, but expand the idea that all of the living and the dead will experience IN THE NATURAL.

See I Thes 4:14-17.

Let's keep things honest.

I'm looking for the Lord's return...

"Unto THEM that look for Him shall he APPEAR, the SECOND time..." He already appeared the first time and gave us the gospel. He is going to appear the second time.

Apprehended 12-13-2008 04:10 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 656658)
I'm more on the lines with Revelationist, in that it's already taken place.....

It might be better to be more on the lines of what Jesus and the Apostles said. Just a recommendation...

Jermyn Davidson 12-13-2008 04:36 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meBNme (Post 656664)
I did too back when I was single. I wanted to get married first, then I wanted to be a father. Now I want to see our daughter born and be "daddy" to daddies littel girl. I'll probably want to see our son, and daddies little girl get married too. LOL

I think its natural of folks who have the joy of the Lord, and a positive outlook on life to want to participate in the things God may have for us.

I will admit that over the last few years I have become increasingly concerned about the future of this country and this world for my kids.

I think it will reach a point where real christians are so out of place in this world that we want the return and rapture far more than to stay and reach those type of goals. But I know many people who have and do feel the way you described.


Thanks alot.

I appreciate your response.

Revelationist 12-13-2008 07:02 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neck (Post 656671)
It is one thing to be in Christ and he in us.

It is another to be in the transfigured state of full redemption.

Which we will not know until we taste death and are then called away to meet him in the clouds or glory or one of the ones that remains still when the catching away happens.

At the state of full redemption we will know Christ....

That will be a great day...

The service that will never end....

I say we have church great music and the best preaching with Christ himself revealing more of who he is to us....

I know one thing, in order to come again, he has to leave and he isn't ever leaving...

Revelationist 12-13-2008 07:05 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 656674)
It might be better to be more on the lines of what Jesus and the Apostles said. Just a recommendation...

Matt 26:64-66

64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy.


KJV

Let's get in line with Jesus then... he told the high priest that he would see him coming i nthe clouds and sitting on the right hand of power. Did the high priest see Jesus come again?

Mrs. LPW 12-13-2008 07:18 PM

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I really do long for Him to come back. Each time I read the news or look at my small children I pray sincerely "come quickly" At the same token I've still got some loved ones and neighbours who are likely not ready to meet Him and that gives me a mixed feeling.

But I am SO ready for Jesus to take His church home!!!!!! If I could push a "rapture" button I would!


Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 656262)
You know, its getting closer every day! Are you excited? Got your bags packed? Got your house in order? What a day that will be!!!!

1Th 4:14-17

For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


Mrs. LPW 12-13-2008 07:21 PM

Re: How Many Are Excited About the Rapture?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meBNme (Post 656664)
I did too back when I was single. I wanted to get married first, then I wanted to be a father. Now I want to see our daughter born and be "daddy" to daddies littel girl. I'll probably want to see our son, and daddies little girl get married too. LOL

I think its natural of folks who have the joy of the Lord, and a positive outlook on life to want to participate in the things God may have for us.

I will admit that over the last few years I have become increasingly concerned about the future of this country and this world for my kids.

I think it will reach a point where real christians are so out of place in this world that we want the return and rapture far more than to stay and reach those type of goals. But I know many people who have and do feel the way you described.


I completely understand this. Now that I have my two small boys, I just want to go home before they face this old world.
If having children has done anything for me (and it has done much!) it has given me an even deeper desire for the Lord to take His church.


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