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I would like to know why tobacco is a sin? Is it b/c its unhealthy? If thats the case a lot of things could be added to the list. Sugar, sodium, and phenylalanine. The last one is found in diet drinks and is known to cause multiple health issues. Is it b/c of the addiction? I have read that nicotine has the same addictive qualities as herion. If thats the case we should still adhere to the preachers I heard years ago preaching against caffiene.

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OHHHH - don't get me on my soapbox with this!

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Please!!!

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Smoking is not a sin. It's unwise, like eating too much of the wrong stuff, but not a sin.

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You probably won't get many responses on this - I don't believe bible-thumpers can defend this - all the other stuff you listed is just as unhealthy if not unhealthier as smoking. They like to quote the "strong drink" scripture about drinking alcohol but alcoholic beverages are NOT the only strong drink - they want to preach against smoking the whole time downing cokes, coffee and fried chicken - but you let them catch me with a cigarette and oh my goodness - I am defiling my body, the temple of God (if they can say that much without stuffing their mouth full of fat infested, carbohydrate filled food) :) - does that state how I feel about it - LOL. Let me smoke 10 cigarettes a week and compare my health to someone who eats 10 meals a week at a fast food restaurant and let's see who is in better health - I would bet any amount of money I WOULD BE IN MUCH BETTER HEALTH!!!

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I don't think smoking is a sin but it is unheathy but then again so is alot of other things in the world.. after all where in the bible does it say smoking is a sin..There is enough stuff in the world we breath in without having to add smokes to the mix....

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I didnt realize you smoke!!!

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one vice doesn't justify another.

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LOL shut up - you know I don't smoke

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So what do we not do?? Smoke, not eat fast food what? Where does the list begin and end?

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Are any of y'all living with COPD/E? I am, and it is not in any way funny to struggle to breathe.

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Don't do either if you want to live in good health.

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Smoking may not be a 'sin' but it is certainly a disgusting, smelly habit. Ewwww! JMO

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To answer your question.

Then

Over eating should be sin.

Taking every form of off the shelf or over the counter drug should be a sin.

Many others as well.

If SMoking is to be considered a sin because of the body being a temple..

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My point being smoking can't be justified because someone else drinks coffee or whatever.

I agree many think can be unhealthy, many things even in moderation are unhealthy. It's true a glass of wine a day is better then soda pop. I guess this were discernment and if one is really in step with God the spirit will let them know when they have crossed a line.

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well one of the deadly sins is gluttony - the definition of gluttony is excessive eating - so there you go - overeating is a sin - not going to be very many pentecostals in heaven if that is the case is there! LOL

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When you can't breathe nothing else matters!!

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It's our pet sin.

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ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my goodness, maybe I am just tired -- stayed up way too late last night on a cleaning & cooking spree -- but that just struck me as hilarious!

I would totally agree though.

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Over eating is not the only definition of gluttony. Nor is it confined to pentecostals.

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Any form of tobacco is disgusting!

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I did not say it was the only definition but is is a definition and you are too defensive - I know pentecostals are not the only ones that overeat - geeze - but this an "apostolic" website thus why I said that - lighten up. I am sorry you suffer from COPD - but do you have "poor little ole me" syndrome?

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Smoking is a sin because it can not be done with agreement with everything else we
understand in the scripture, that is, it can not be done in faith.

Since it is an outside chemical, being burned, to be inhaled, to
accelerate its entry into our blood stream, we are adding an agent into
our bodies to alter the chemical contents within our blood. It is our own
will being asserted to create a pleasure response (through ingesting a
chemically active agent) that contradicts sustainable wellness of the
body. For a spirit-filled believer, the body is the tabernacle of God,
holy, and set apart. Motive is the issue that causes this activity to invite
sin to "sit outside the door", if not actually, inviting sin to have its
place within our life choices.

Viewed from a perspective within the natural realm:

1st witness:
The witness of our body's initial response
Our lungs reject the presence of this agent until we do it for so long
that our body's own rejection system ceases to react.

2nd witness:
The pain of withdrawal when one ceases smoking.
When the chemical levels drop, the pain and anxiousness is a plain
demonstration of "cause and effect". Paul said, “I will not be brought under the power of any.”

3rd witness:
The operation embraces a total physiological experience; hands, mouth and
chemistry. Two very powerful physical activities that quickly become
habitual, in the process of ingesting an addictive chemical. Crude example
for those of us with kids....just think about how hard it is to break a
child's nose picking habit once fully explored and enjoyed!)

Smoking is certainly in the mix of things that every individual will
decide for themselves. But for anyone who seeks the scriptures (led by the
Spirit) for wonderful counsels, smoking would be understood as a work of
the flesh; authored in the realm of carnal-mindedness.

Certainly over-eating can also become an issue conflicting with the Biblical principle of moderation, but food is necessary for survival; tobacco is not. Thus, the comparison falls short.

As has already been said, one vice doesn’t justify another. Pointing out that “Well, you guys overeat” doesn’t make this vile habit acceptable for Holy Ghost filled people.

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How am I too defensive? And we have some posters here that aren't apostolic, or drank, smoked, and overate before they were. And nope I don't, I was a stupid teenager that thought smoking was cool. Now that I am in my 50's I am living with the effects of that stupidity.

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The comparison doesn't fall short and I knew it would not be long before someone said something like that - will yes food is necessary for survival, not all foods are necessary and over-eating is not necessary for survival, caffeine is not necessary for survival, bad carbs are not necessary for survival, pork is not necessary for survival (BTW pork is one of the most unhealthiest things you can put into your body), eating fast food is not necessary for survival, eating fried foods is not necessary for survival. Have you ever seen someone who is addicted to caffeine trying to come off - it has a chemical effect also -people are under the "power" of caffeine; once again - gluttony is one of the 7 deadly sins and one of the definitions of gluttony is excessive eating.

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I cant agree that nicotine is the only thing we can ingest that our body initially rejects. However I do agree with what you mentioned Paul said. I believe if your addicted to anything its a sin. To me its the addiction more than the product.

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I think there's some deliverence ministers that would testify there's a spirit behind caffeine addiction.

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You are using one of the weakest arguments there is--"Well it's no worse than what you do."

The witness of the Holy Gost among godly people has overwhelmingly spoken against smoking.

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Did I say nicotine was the only thing the body rejects?

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Caffiene is not neccesary for survival....... It is necesary for REvival.

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No not at all. But my point is other things are not looked upon like smoking is. I believe its a sin for the addictive and the health issues. I just wonder why other things that have the same addictive and unhealthy nature are not so harshley looked upon.

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Well - if they drank overate, etc before they were then I hope they are doing something about it now. There are things you can do to help you live a better life with COPD - plenty of Vitamin C helps; Omega 3 supplements, magnesium; flaxsee and walnuts; kidney beans, soybeans; eat salmon, haibut or tuna at least 3 times a week. Studies have been done that proves this is just a few of the things you can do if you suffer from COPD to help you live a better life.

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There is a spirit behind any type of addiction.

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Yes, thank you I know of a few. I love tuna.

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Even little white powdered dounuts????????

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I don't smoke but to follow this you would have to eat only organic food amd drink no soda, coffee or tea.

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I know, right. Obesity is in our faces too, so to speak.

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Oh no, only the chocolate ones.:christmoose

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Phew!!!!!!! I was thinkin we might have to have an exorsism here or something!

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Yes yes someone sees my point!!!!!!!