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Sam 12-23-2008 11:17 PM

Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment
 
From The Apostolic Report:

Bro. Kenneth Haney, General Superintendent of the United Pentecostal Church International, recently met with other Pentecostal and Charismatic leaders in Newport Beach, California as part of preliminary meetings leading up to the 2010 Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment in the 21st Century, a Pentecostal/Charismatic congress slated for 2010 on the campus of Oral Roberts University.

The Commission, which is chaired by Rev. Billy Wilson, executive director for the International Center for Spiritual Renewal and vice chair of the Oral Roberts University Board of Trustees, is attempting to cast a vision for the future of the Pentecostal movement.

The Congress will be held on the Tulsa campus of Oral Roberts University 8-10 April 2010. The inclusion of Bro. Haney does signal the inclusion of the Oneness branch of the Pentecostal movement in the Congressional efforts of the Commission.

Sam 12-23-2008 11:18 PM

Re: Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment
 
from: http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/156629012.html

Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment in the 21st Century Begins Conversations
A congress is slated for 2010 on the campus of Oral Roberts University

Contact: Jeremy Burton, Oral Roberts University, 918-495-6649, jburton@oru.edu

TULSA, Okla., Dec. 22 /Christian Newswire/ -- In 100 years, the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement has grown from a handful of individuals and organizations to a global force of more than 600 million people. A series of meetings has begun to discuss the future of this movement and how to introduce Spirit-empowered living to a new generation. These conversations will culminate in the Congress on Holy Spirit Empowerment in the 21st Century on April 8-10, 2010 at Oral Roberts University (ORU) in Tulsa, Okla.

"With more than 100 years behind us since the Azusa Street Revival and a new century before us, the time is now for a serious conversation on the future of the movement," said Reverend Billy Wilson, chair of the Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment in the 21st Century, executive director of the International Center for Spiritual Renewal and vice chair of the ORU Board of Trustees.

"Our hope is that through the work of the Commission new generations will experience the power of the Holy Spirit. They in turn will impact the nations of the earth and bring the greatest number of people to Christ in the history of the world," Wilson said. "Although the Commission is a broad Kingdom initiative, Oral Roberts University is a fitting place to facilitate this process and we are excited about what the Holy Spirit will do on campus during the next several months."

Three tracks of conversation have been established and include a leadership track, a scholars track and a new generation track. The leadership track includes leaders from the traditional Pentecostal/Charismatic community as well as leaders in new emerging ministries. The scholars track will include leading scholars from the Pentecostal/Charismatic community with an intentional focus on diversity to facilitate a broad range of thought. The new generation track will be a combination of new generation ministry leaders and students to reflect on Spirit-empowered living in their generation.

There are a number of anticipated outcomes from this process and the 2010 Congress. Questions and solutions for the future of the Spirit-filled movement will be brought forward; new, contemporary vocabulary will surface and be adopted; increased effectiveness in reaching and engaging new generations will be achieved; increased unity between traditional Pentecostals/Charismatics and emerging churches will be realized; and the continued growth of Spirit-empowered ministries will be encouraged.

"The ORU Board of Trustees is excited about the Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment in the 21st Century and how it is positioning ORU in a place of servant leadership to the global Christian community," said Mart Green, board chair of the ORU Board of Trustees and president of Mardel, Inc. in Oklahoma City, Okla. "We believe the greatest days for ORU and the world are ahead of us as we embrace a fresh empowerment of the Holy Spirit."

The first leadership track took place the week of Dec. 7 in Newport Beach, Calif. Oral Roberts, founder, chancellor and trustee of ORU, visited this initial conversation and shared insights into the unique transition at ORU during the last year. Roberts affirmed and embraced the fresh leadership Green is providing as board chair.

The participants included Reverend Billy Wilson; Mary Banks, founder of W.O.W. Consulting Group in Houston, Texas, and a member of the ORU Board of Trustees; Keith Craft, senior pastor of Celebration Covenant Church in Frisco, Texas; Ron Carpenter, Jr., founder and co-pastor of Redemption World Outreach Center in Greenville, S.C.; Billy Joe Daugherty, senior pastor of Victory Christian Center in Tulsa, Okla.; Daniel de Leon, senior pastor of Templo Calvario in Santa Ana, Calif.; Joe Champion, lead pastor of Celebration Church in Georgetown, Texas; Dick Eastman, president of Every Home for Christ in Colorado Springs, Colo.; Gene Evans, president of Full Gospel Fellowship of Churches and Ministers International in Douglasville, Ga.; and Jack Hayford, president of International Church of the Foursquare Gospel in Los Angeles, Calif.

Also participating were Ralph Fagin, interim president of Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Okla.; Al Hollingsworth, founder of BOSS/The Movement in Ontario, Calif.; Mart Green, president of Mardel, Inc. in Oklahoma City, Okla. and ORU Board Chair; Rob Hoskins, founder of Book of Hope in Pompano, Fla., and a member of the ORU Board of Trustees; Kenneth Haney, general superintendent of United Pentecostal Church International in Hazelwood, Mo.; Walt Kallestad, senior pastor of Community Church of Joy in Glendale, Ariz.; Rob Koke, senior pastor of Shoreline Christian Center in Austin, Texas; Vinson Synan, dean emeritus of Regent University in Chesapeake, Va.; Charles Scott, General Bishop of Pentecostal Church of God, Inc., in Joplin, Mo.; Kenneth Ulmer, senior pastor of Faithful Central Bible Church and president of King's Seminary in Englewood, Calif.; David Shibley, founder of Global Advance in Rockwall, Texas; Mark Williams, second assistant general overseer of International Church of God in Cleveland, Tenn.; and Larry Stockstill, senior pastor of Bethany World Prayer Center in Baker, La.

The ORU Board of Trustees has established the Spirit Empowered Living Fund to receive grant monies for this process. A grant for $250,000 has been received and will be utilized to support the conversation tracks and the 2010 Congress.

For more information on the Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment in the 21st Century, go to www.spiritempowered.org.

Hoovie 12-23-2008 11:26 PM

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This is great... I think.

Sherri 12-24-2008 07:25 AM

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I think it's awesome! I would bet Mark Roberts is involved in this, as he is over some department at ORU about the Holy Spirit. He went to JCM with me in the 70's.

Light 12-24-2008 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 666087)
This is great... I think.

What makes you think this is great? It comes as no supprise as KH has always believed Trinnies were saved.

:santaclaus:santaclaus:santaclaus:santaclaus

Sam 12-24-2008 09:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 666304)
What makes you think this is great? It comes as no supprise as KH has always believed Trinnies were saved.

:santaclaus:santaclaus:santaclaus:santaclaus

Ken Haney believes Trinnies are saved?
So do lots of other Apostolic Oneness Pentecostals.

Timmy 12-24-2008 10:53 PM

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:popcorn2

Steve Epley 12-24-2008 11:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 666546)
Ken Haney believes Trinnies are saved?
So do lots of other Apostolic Oneness Pentecostals.

They are decieved also. The bridge builders are the modern day Jehosophat and Ahabs.

Sweet Pea 12-25-2008 04:34 AM

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Bishop Haney preached in our service this past Sunday morning. He mentioned this. They invited him at the last minute to come. He had some very interesting things to say about what some of the people involved said. They were questioning him about why most of their churches had lost the power and our churches had not. His response:

"Because you began preaching the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues as a prerogative - and not part of the plan....."

The message is archived on our website.

scotty 12-25-2008 04:40 AM

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LOL... never heard it put that way, " whether or not you seek the baptism of the Spirit is your perogative"..lol. I love it. Makes it a little harder to find that in scripture. Gonna have to use that.

Steve Epley 12-25-2008 08:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea (Post 666646)
Bishop Haney preached in our service this past Sunday morning. He mentioned this. They invited him at the last minute to come. He had some very interesting things to say about what some of the people involved said. They were questioning him about why most of their churches had lost the power and our churches had not. His response:

"Because you began preaching the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues as a prerogative - and not part of the plan....."

The message is archived on our website.

Can a copy of what he said at this event NOT what he said about what he said?
Call me Thomas.

Silent Service 12-25-2008 03:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 666680)
Can a copy of what he said at this event NOT what he said about what he said?
Call me Thomas.


Thomas, among other things.

Sweet Pea 12-25-2008 07:41 PM

Re: Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 666680)
Can a copy of what he said at this event NOT what he said about what he said?
Call me Thomas.

Brother Epley - I have a lot of respect for you - however, I think you are way off base in your assumption that my former pastor did not say what he told us he said at the meeting. I sat under him for almost 30 years. He always taught Acts 2:38 - repentance, baptism in Jesus Name and the infilling of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. I know some on this forum will say that he believes in "friends of the Bridegroom", "light doctrine" etc. etc - HOWEVER, in all those years I have never had reason to believe from his teachings that he thought the Holy Ghost anything but necessary.

NOW - having said that - I will say that he preaches and teaches what he believes (Act 2:38) but he leaves the judgement of a person's salvation up to God!

TJJJ 12-25-2008 09:50 PM

Re: Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 666680)
Can a copy of what he said at this event NOT what he said about what he said?
Call me Thomas.

Epley, no one has ever accused Haney of being conservative. Since he got elected to the Papal Palace the UPCI has definently taken a severe liberal stance on many issues. On one hand you have the UPCI where everyone can be saved, on the other you have fellowships like the ACI where none can be saved but them. I think it is safe to remain moderate.

nwlife 12-26-2008 01:11 AM

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TJJJ,
I think you are a little off on your basis of that "everyone can be saved" view of the UPCI.

Of course they preach everyone and anyone can be saved, as long as they follow the traditional acts 2:38 preached plan. That is all I have heard from the vast majority of the UPC.

StMark 12-28-2008 11:53 PM

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BUMP

Pastor Keith 12-29-2008 12:12 AM

Re: Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea (Post 666866)
Brother Epley - I have a lot of respect for you - however, I think you are way off base in your assumption that my former pastor did not say what he told us he said at the meeting. I sat under him for almost 30 years. He always taught Acts 2:38 - repentance, baptism in Jesus Name and the infilling of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. I know some on this forum will say that he believes in "friends of the Bridegroom", "light doctrine" etc. etc - HOWEVER, in all those years I have never had reason to believe from his teachings that he thought the Holy Ghost anything but necessary.

NOW - having said that - I will say that he preaches and teaches what he believes (Act 2:38) but he leaves the judgement of a person's salvation up to God!

And none of those doctrines diminish the necessity and requirement to have the Holy Ghost for full salvation.

Rhoni 12-29-2008 12:35 AM

Re: Commission on Holy Spirit Empowerment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 666304)
What makes you think this is great? It comes as no supprise as KH has always believed Trinnies were saved.

:santaclaus:santaclaus:santaclaus:santaclaus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 666546)
Ken Haney believes Trinnies are saved?
So do lots of other Apostolic Oneness Pentecostals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea (Post 666646)
Bishop Haney preached in our service this past Sunday morning. He mentioned this. They invited him at the last minute to come. He had some very interesting things to say about what some of the people involved said. They were questioning him about why most of their churches had lost the power and our churches had not. His response:

"Because you began preaching the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues as a prerogative - and not part of the plan....."

The message is archived on our website.

What I enjoyed about the Assembly of God church I attended through my Master's program was the fact they believed that when you repented and were baptized then you received the Holy Ghost. There was no "SEEKING". They all received it and spoke in tongues when they were ready. It was beautiful to see because they all received it and none of them "sought" at the altar for it.

I will state what I already stated in Charisma magazine when K. Haney was elected: Oneness Pentecostals may sit down at the table with you, but they will only do so with the intent to change you - not themselves.

Blessings, Rhoni


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