21st Century Plague: Domineering, Bossy Women
 

We see THEM in every commercial, sitcom, movie, book, magazine, board room, office, store and restaurant. THEY are active in every church, attempting - with much success- to control the choir, the music, the praise band, the Sunday School, the youth group, the finances, the pastor and the overall direction of the church.

Who are THEY?

They are domineering women. They are here, and in your face.

The twenty-first century woman is no longer satisfied with gender equality. No, the twenty-first century woman wants to exert her will through a variety of means which include - but is not limited to - manipulation, intimidation, threats and litigation. She wants to be in control. Above men.

This is a perversion of God's plan for humanity. Men and women are to roll through life on parallel tracks carefully constructed by God IN THE BEGINNING. Any deviation from these roles leads to familial and societal train wrecks.

Here is what the Bible has to say about domineering women.

"A woman must be a learner, listening quietly and with due submission. I do not permit a woman to be a teacher, nor must woman domineer over man; she should be quiet". (1 Timothy 2:11,12 New English Bible).

Woman in quietness let her be learning in all subjection; to be teaching but to woman not I am permitting, nor to be playing master of male person, but to be in quietness." (1 Timothy 2:11,12. Greek text translated by Westcott and Hort).

It is clear that God does not approve of domieering women. It is also clear that God expects women to be complements to men, in spite of perceived masculine weaknesses.

When wives fulfil their God-given allotted place they are happy, and have an enjoyable, interesting, and peaceful relationship with God and their husbands.

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It all started with allowing them to vote. lol

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EA.......

You like to live dangerously, eh? Haha! :)

Nobody likes loud, domineering, bossy women except maybe some perhaps who like the drama that accompanies that kind of woman.

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Have you ever met this woman?

You know, the one who constantly humiliates her kind, good-natured husband in public settings? She belittles him for his work, his family, their home, his intellect and .....

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Danger is my middle name!:bubble

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You're inviting a backlash of 1/2 of the body of Christ against the male Christian who treats his wife like chattle.

Do you think the verse from 1Tim applies to women in the church apart from the marriage partnership?

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Send those women to the dark corners of Africa, to the depths of the jungles...please get them out of your face!
ha...

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There's a lot of women who quietly control their husbands.
they come across sweet and kind but you can tell who wears the pants.
I see it a lot in ministry too. I don't think these women are happy deep inside

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I'm not inviting anything. I'm not adding any disclaimers.

It is what it is and says what it says.

Do you disagree with Paul?

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True.

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It speaks of genders, not marital roles.

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I Corinthians 11 is often misinterpreted as being written about husband/wife roles. It is speaking of gender roles, not marital roles.

1Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

2Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

4Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.

5But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

6For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

7For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

8For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.

9Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

10For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

11Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

12For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.

13Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?

14Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

15But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

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I don't think this issue should be addressed on an institutional level. I think every man has to decide on an individual level, what his relationship is to his wife. Constraining women is backward and has been the source of much abuse in the past and currently in third world countries.

I say, "FREE THE WOMEN". I'm no less of a man because of it.

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Nope. I think a pastor can decide that he will not be "domineered.":santathumb

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"But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price." 1 Peter 3:4 KJV

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you might be looked upon as backward and provincial. women will find another church to go to and you can continue your little fiefdom. depends on what you mean by domineering women. what are some examples?

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Many men who aren't good managers or decision makers marry a woman who makes up for his inadequacies in those and other areas, and he's the better for it. And vice versa as well.

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A woman can domineer if her husband allows it?

Haha! :)

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so true...

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Many times women are forced to take charge because some milque-toast man won't step up to the plate and do it. Truthfully, I don't think a woman respects a man that she can control. JMO.:stirpot

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I'm not saying I disagree with Paul but I might be disagreeing with you! Here's why: it has to do with verse 15 and the implication that this passage has more to do with a godly husband and wife relationship than a submissive role a woman must take within the body of Christ.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Your interpretaion seems contradictory with Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ....and with 1 Cor 12. I don't see any distinctions being made by Paul in the body of Christ or in the gifting of the members of the body whether they be male of female.

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

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and don't forget the Scripture that says

"keep your women barefoot and pregnant."


:jolly:jolly:jolly:jolly:jolly:jolly

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I agree with you on this point, Ed, but who's to say a woman cannot be called to be a pastor? :christmoose

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Ed, am I to be subject to EVERY man?

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Yep, thar's domineering women. And thar's mean men too.

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You go DM. :)

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Well, when we guys start treating our wives like Jesus loves the church, and we start loving them as much as we love ourselves, we might just get some respect from them. Maybe some of them are waiting for us to do our part before they try to do their part. Aren't we supposed to take the lead?

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:santathumb

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No.

It appears to me that God is saying that women should not usurp a man's position. In that way, she is subject to God, and man.

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Maybe, but it is still a perversion of scripture isn't it?

Weak men are a perversion. Domineering women are a perversion.

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Hmmm, is there scriptural precedent for that?:christmaskiss

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Have you ever done a personality study? Some people are born cholerics, women and men. They naturally have a take charge personality.

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Bro. Sam,

I discern that thou art of man of much wisdom!:nod

Blessings,

Falla39

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Mizpeh, I am amazed that someone as read as you are could misinterpret scripture this horribly. Of course there is to be a distinction between the sexes, and God definitely expects us to fill our role.

Your interpretation of Galatians 3:28 lacks sound hermeneutic application.

We ARE one body as a church. But each individual member is distinct. We are not nameless, faceless, genderless drones.

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Best post of the thread!!!!

You are exactly right! The woman wants to be a woman and let the man be the man!!!!

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Personality shouldn't matter, should it?

What about a person who is born with a violent temper? Are they exused to hurt others?

The idea that it's okay for women to domineer because "we think men are weak-minded, namby-pamby failures" is a creation of a feminazi agenda that has squirreled its way into the church.

I would hazard to say that most men who are accused of such are the victims of domineering women with a feminist agenda.:santathumb

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Also, I have seen women who usurp authority from a husband who is supposedly "weak."

They normally don't stop with their relationship with their husband. It normally extends to every male relationship in their life.

Their boss, their sons, their pastor.....

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Is this scripture applicable for the church, for marriage, for relationships in the world? How would you apply it?

If we were to isolate this passage it might be interpreted in a general way to mean women are to be subject to ALL men in ALL relationships...church, marriage, job, family, school, etc...but is this how Paul views the role of women as a whole?

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We had a pastor who used to say,
"The man is the head,
but
the woman is the neck that turns the head."

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