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Praxeas 12-26-2008 11:45 PM

New Star Trek Movie
 
It was supposed to come out in December but it will come out later...it looks pretty good.

Evang.Benincasa 12-26-2008 11:49 PM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
Does it have anything to do with the Gospel?

Praxeas 12-26-2008 11:59 PM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667542)
Does it have anything to do with the Gospel?

I haven't see it yet. You want me to take notes?

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 667546)
I haven't see it yet. You want me to take notes?

I was just asking to see what does a Star Trek movie have to do with the Gospel. I don't need you to take notes. You seen one Star Trek episode you saw them all.

RandyWayne 12-27-2008 12:04 AM

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You mean "The Trouble with Tribbles" is no different than the "Undiscovered Country"?

And yes, I DO plan on seeing the new one. :)

MissBrattified 12-27-2008 12:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667548)
...You seen one Star Trek episode you saw them all.

How would YOU know???? :paranoid

Praxeas 12-27-2008 12:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667548)
I was just asking to see what does a Star Trek movie have to do with the Gospel. I don't need you to take notes. You seen one Star Trek episode you saw them all.

You sound like you already have an idea what a Star Trek Movie has to do with the gospel..So why ask? Bored?

But you never know...maybe they have an Acts 2:38 preaching preterist in the movie. Hey now wouldn't that be neat?

Praxeas 12-27-2008 12:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 667550)
How would YOU know???? :paranoid

Good question lol

Praxeas 12-27-2008 12:07 AM

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They should get smart and start showing these movies streaming on the Internet too what with all those millions of TV hatin, Internet Lovin Christians out there they could make a lot more money

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 667549)
You mean "The Trouble with Tribbles" is no different than the "Undiscovered Country"?

And yes, I DO plan on seeing the new one. :)

Same thing, just a few changes. Let's put it this way, deep space nine, Dr Who, Logan's Run, Planet of the Apes, and Star Trek all the same thing.
Nothing new.

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 667550)
How would YOU know???? :paranoid

I wasn't raised in church.

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 667552)
Good question lol

Nothing much.

MissBrattified 12-27-2008 12:14 AM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
Most good stories have the classic good vs. evil, a few twists thrown in, but good triumphs in the end. (IMO, anyway)

That doesn't mean the stories are boring when they're told again with new faces, new names and new uniforms. :)

If repetition were a problem, the Bible would be in big trouble. Not that I'm comparing Star Trek with the Bible. Just saying.

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 667551)
You sound like you already have an idea what a Star Trek Movie has to do with the gospel..So why ask? Bored?

No, not bored, I'm trying to get my work done and checking the forum out at the same time. I just trying to figure out what Star Trek has to do with Jesus Christ?

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 667551)
But you never know...maybe they have an Acts 2:38 preaching preterist in the movie. Hey now wouldn't that be neat?

I hardly would think that would be the case. I was just asking what Star Trek had to do with the Gospel. ;)

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 667557)
Most good stories have the classic good vs. evil, a few twists thrown in, but good triumphs in the end. (IMO, anyway)

That doesn't mean the stories are boring when they're told again with new faces, new names and new uniforms. :)

If repetition were a problem, the Bible would be in big trouble. Not that I'm comparing Star Trek with the Bible. Just saying.

Joseph Campbell's books the The Hero's Journey, and The Hero with a Thousand Faces. Both books explain what you have said very well.

Do you know if this Star Trek movie is teaching anything about the Gospel?

Praxeas 12-27-2008 12:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667558)
No, not bored, I'm trying to get my work done and checking the forum out at the same time. I just trying to figure out what Star Trek has to do with Jesus Christ?

lol...you don't know? You're trying to figure it out eh?


Quote:

I hardly would think that would be the case. I was just asking what Star Trek had to do with the Gospel. ;)
But you never know :gift

Praxeas 12-27-2008 12:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667559)
Joseph Campbell's books the The Hero's Journey, and The Hero with a Thousand Faces. Both books explain what you have said very well.

Do you know if this Star Trek movie is teaching anything about the Gospel?

Every Cadet from Star Fleet Acadamy has to be baptized in Jesus name before they can go out and meet space aliens

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 667560)
lol...you don't know? You're trying to figure it out eh?

Excuse me? Was I being sarcastic? I'm serious, I would like to know what this movie has to do with the Gospel? Yes, no, these two words would of speeded up the process don't you think? It's not like trying to root through a Strongs’ Concordance to try and decipher first century common Greek.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 667560)
But you never know :gift

Yeah especially when no one is saying anything.

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 667561)
Every Cadet from Star Fleet Acadamy has to be baptized in Jesus name before they can go out and meet space aliens

Interesting even to you it sounds ridiculous.

Amazing. ;)

MissBrattified 12-27-2008 12:32 AM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667559)
Joseph Campbell's books the The Hero's Journey, and The Hero with a Thousand Faces. Both books explain what you have said very well.

Do you know if this Star Trek movie is teaching anything about the Gospel?

I have no idea. :) I probably won't even watch it. My husband will at some point....

My favorite stories EVER are The Greatest Salesman in the World (I & II), The Greatest Miracle in the World, and The Christ Commission. (Og Mandino)

However, I still love Jane Eyre and Leaves of Grass--they're not really about the Gospel. :D

The book that most changed my life as a teenager was In His Steps.

MissBrattified 12-27-2008 12:33 AM

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:blink

Wow. My typos are pretty bad. I need to go to bed.

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 667564)
I have no idea. :) I probably won't even watch it. My husband will at some point....

My favorite stories EVER are The Greatest Salesman in the World (I & II), The Greatest Miracle in the World, and The Christ Commission. (Og Mandino)

However, I still love Jane Eyre and Leaves of Grass--they're not really about the Gospel. :D

The book that most changed my life as a teenager was In His Steps.

I know of the writer Charlotte Bronte, and yes very good book by Charles Monroe Sheldon. Books are better than movies. Nothing can beat man's imaginative mind.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 12:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 667565)
:blink

Wow. My typos are pretty bad. I need to go to bed.

Thank you for answering my questions you are very kind.

Lord bless you and your family in the upcoming year.

In JESUS NAME

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

RandyWayne 12-27-2008 01:18 AM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...arTrekKhan.jpg

RandyWayne 12-27-2008 01:25 AM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667554)
Same thing, just a few changes. Let's put it this way, deep space nine, Dr Who, Logan's Run, Planet of the Apes, and Star Trek all the same thing.
Nothing new.

No.

It is not all the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt5Z54L6efo

OneAccord 12-27-2008 01:54 AM

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Well, yes. Star Trek is related to the Gospel to some extent. It was a prophetic series. Personal computers, very similar to the one you are staring at right now, were all over the Enterprize. Data disks? Saw em on the Enterprize in the 60s when we of the mid 20th century were still using reel-to-reel tapes. Personal communictaions devices? A revelation of that ubiquitous cell phone we all have. Cat scans, MRIs? Yep, the Enterprize had 'em. HD TVs? Sure, couldn't get anymore HD than the main veiwer on the bridge. I read not long ago where scientist had managed to teleport light from one place to another. Why, the Enterprize was teleporting carbon based life forms years ago. Lasers? Nonlethal weapons? Synthetic foods? Wireless communication? Its all there aboard Starfllets finest, the USS Enterprize.

It is said that Star Trek did more to break thru the racial barriers than anything else when, for the first time ever on American television, an interacial kiss was shown. Star Trek taught equality among, not only the races, but bewteen genders, cultures and even between intergalatic species. Okay, that last one is a bit far-fetched, but the point is made.

DNA testing? Yep, Dr. MCoy could distinquish Klingon blood from Romulon blood years before you had ever heard of DNA .

Gene Roddenberry was a visionary and much of what he envisioned is reality today.
But Star Trek being compared to Logans Run? Sorry, but thats like comparing the Andy Griffith Show to Mayberry RFD. There IS no comparison.


Can I get a big Amen from my brother Trekkies? Live long and prosper. Come to think of it.... that famous Vulcan salutation sounds a lot like 3Jo 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 667571)
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You know RW, what was with William Shatner's over acting? What did America see in his extreme dramatic displays. DeForest Kelley was a little better, but the Kabbalist Lenord Nemoy was the main attraction.

Maybe I should ask this question. How do these movies and old tv re-runs enhance a Christian walk?

Not trying to be sarcastic or antagonistic, but really would like to know.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2008 07:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 667574)
Well, yes. Star Trek is related to the Gospel to some extent. It was a prophetic series. Personal computers, very similar to the one you are staring at right now, were all over the Enterprize. Data disks? Saw em on the Enterprize in the 60s when we of the mid 20th century were still using reel-to-reel tapes. Personal communictaions devices? A revelation of that ubiquitous cell phone we all have. Cat scans, MRIs? Yep, the Enterprize had 'em. HD TVs? Sure, couldn't get anymore HD than the main veiwer on the bridge. I read not long ago where scientist had managed to teleport light from one place to another. Why, the Enterprize was teleporting carbon based life forms years ago. Lasers? Nonlethal weapons? Synthetic foods? Wireless communication? Its all there aboard Starfllets finest, the USS Enterprize.

It is said that Star Trek did more to break thru the racial barriers than anything else when, for the first time ever on American television, an interacial kiss was shown. Star Trek taught equality among, not only the races, but bewteen genders, cultures and even between intergalatic species. Okay, that last one is a bit far-fetched, but the point is made.

DNA testing? Yep, Dr. MCoy could distinquish Klingon blood from Romulon blood years before you had ever heard of DNA .

Gene Roddenberry was a visionary and much of what he envisioned is reality today.
But Star Trek being compared to Logans Run? Sorry, but thats like comparing the Andy Griffith Show to Mayberry RFD. There IS no comparison.


Can I get a big Amen from my brother Trekkies? Live long and prosper. Come to think of it.... that famous Vulcan salutation sounds a lot like 3Jo 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

I always thought everything was pretty cheesy and looked alot like Plan 9 from Outer Space, or Son of Godzilla. I guess you could say that Gene Rodenberry was a visionary as much as any other Sci Fi writer, Isaac Asimov, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Arthur C. Clarke (just passed away this year as did Thomas M. Disch), and H. G. Wells. Also we must not forget L. Ron Hubbard, who on a bet said that he could create his own religion and make money from it, and that his religion would become as popular as the three religions of Jesus, Buddha, and Muhammad.

The Star Trek Vulcan greeting and farewell, was created from Kabbalah, with the hand symbol from Kabbalah. The live long and prosper comes from Kabbalist principle, and since Kabbalist teaching of the Zohar, borrow from Old Testament principles. It all would sound like it is all lifted from the pages of the Bible

Margies3 12-27-2008 08:26 AM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667558)
No, not bored, I'm trying to get my work done and checking the forum out at the same time. I just trying to figure out what Star Trek has to do with Jesus Christ?



I hardly would think that would be the case. I was just asking what Star Trek had to do with the Gospel. ;)

So what exactly are you trying to say here? That if it doesn't have anything to do with the Gospel, we should never discuss it?

So much for discussing that new car purchase with your wife. Or discussing how the kids are doing in school with their teachers. Or planning for that next vacation. Or.................

Truthseeker 12-27-2008 08:46 AM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667559)
Joseph Campbell's books the The Hero's Journey, and The Hero with a Thousand Faces. Both books explain what you have said very well.

Do you know if this Star Trek movie is teaching anything about the Gospel?

Those books teach anything about the gospel? just curious





BTW when did saints start going to movies??

Timmy 12-27-2008 09:05 AM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667586)
You know RW, what was with William Shatner's over acting? What did America see in his extreme dramatic displays. DeForest Kelley was a little better, but the Kabbalist Lenord Nemoy was the main attraction.

Maybe I should ask this question. How do these movies and old tv re-runs enhance a Christian walk?

Not trying to be sarcastic or antagonistic, but really would like to know.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Maybe they don't.

So what?

Timmy 12-27-2008 09:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 667598)
Those books teach anything about the gospel? just curious





BTW when did saints start going to movies??

Oh, maybe around the time they were invented?! :jolly

Aquila 12-27-2008 09:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 667551)
You sound like you already have an idea what a Star Trek Movie has to do with the gospel..So why ask? Bored?

But you never know...maybe they have an Acts 2:38 preaching preterist in the movie. Hey now wouldn't that be neat?

He might even be depicted as being from the same planet as Bro. Benincasa. :jolly

jaxfam6 12-27-2008 09:42 AM

Re: New Star Trek Movie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 667574)
Well, yes. Star Trek is related to the Gospel to some extent. It was a prophetic series. Personal computers, very similar to the one you are staring at right now, were all over the Enterprize. Data disks? Saw em on the Enterprize in the 60s when we of the mid 20th century were still using reel-to-reel tapes. Personal communictaions devices? A revelation of that ubiquitous cell phone we all have. Cat scans, MRIs? Yep, the Enterprize had 'em. HD TVs? Sure, couldn't get anymore HD than the main veiwer on the bridge. I read not long ago where scientist had managed to teleport light from one place to another. Why, the Enterprize was teleporting carbon based life forms years ago. Lasers? Nonlethal weapons? Synthetic foods? Wireless communication? Its all there aboard Starfllets finest, the USS Enterprize.

It is said that Star Trek did more to break thru the racial barriers than anything else when, for the first time ever on American television, an interacial kiss was shown. Star Trek taught equality among, not only the races, but bewteen genders, cultures and even between intergalatic species. Okay, that last one is a bit far-fetched, but the point is made.

DNA testing? Yep, Dr. MCoy could distinquish Klingon blood from Romulon blood years before you had ever heard of DNA .

Gene Roddenberry was a visionary and much of what he envisioned is reality today.
But Star Trek being compared to Logans Run? Sorry, but thats like comparing the Andy Griffith Show to Mayberry RFD. There IS no comparison.


Can I get a big Amen from my brother Trekkies? Live long and prosper. Come to think of it.... that famous Vulcan salutation sounds a lot like 3Jo 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.


AMEN

I felt the spirit in that post



:christmoose

Aquila 12-27-2008 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667558)
No, not bored, I'm trying to get my work done and checking the forum out at the same time. I just trying to figure out what Star Trek has to do with Jesus Christ?



I hardly would think that would be the case. I was just asking what Star Trek had to do with the Gospel. ;)

Hey, I might invite an unsaved friend to go see it with me. Deepen our friendship a little. He's already opened up somewhat about some things he needs prayer over. The more time spent together as "friends" actually BEING FRIENDS the more likely he is to be open to what I have to tell him about the Lord.

jaxfam6 12-27-2008 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 667616)
Hey, I might invite an unsaved friend to go see it with me. Deepen our friendship a little. He's already opened up somewhat about some things he needs prayer over. The more time spent together as "friends" actually BEING FRIENDS the more likely he is to be open to what I have to tell him about the Lord.

You mean you don't just scream at him, over and over, that he is going to hell till he actually believes you and comes to church?

:jaw

Aquila 12-27-2008 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 667586)
You know RW, what was with William Shatner's over acting? What did America see in his extreme dramatic displays. DeForest Kelley was a little better, but the Kabbalist Lenord Nemoy was the main attraction.

Maybe I should ask this question. How do these movies and old tv re-runs enhance a Christian walk?

Not trying to be sarcastic or antagonistic, but really would like to know.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

It's just recreational. Like watching a play in your living room. Just a time to relax and hear a story.

Aquila 12-27-2008 09:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxfam6 (Post 667619)
You mean you don't just scream at him, over and over, that he is going to hell till he actually believes you and comes to church?

:jaw

Nope. And I also don't believe in being a friend with the sole mission to convert them. I choose to be a friend and only witness when God moves on me to do so. I'm not a trigger happy witness. ;)

jaxfam6 12-27-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 667622)
Nope. And I also don't believe in being a friend with the sole mission to convert them. I choose to be a friend and only witness when God moves on me to do so. I'm not a trigger happy witness. ;)

well I certainly can not be involved with the likes of you people
witnessing ONLY when you feel God moves on you to do so????

why I, I, I..........

I am speachless at such thinking.




:christmoose

Aquila 12-27-2008 10:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxfam6 (Post 667629)
well I certainly can not be involved with the likes of you people
witnessing ONLY when you feel God moves on you to do so????

why I, I, I..........

I am speachless at such thinking.




:christmoose

LOL

I've ruined too many good friendships and burned too many bridges that could have been used to eventually reach someone by being a pushy witness in my younger days. Now I just pray that God opens the door and speaks to my heart when the time comes. In the mean time, I try to be the best friend they've got, a Christian friend.


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