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If I remember well You were having questions about tithing, here is an interesting read about tithing.

I did post in your topic, but there were too many post that I think mine got ignored :))

I'm not looking for attention though! hahaha! I just find it very very interesting.

Even to those who are not gloryseeker, I encourage you to read.

It's really a nice read

http://www.takehisheart.com/givingti...bletithing.htm

http://www.takehisheart.com/finelines.htm

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ain't no tithes, case closed.

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Actually I have no questions on the tithe. Very well versed on the subject, thanks!

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But the old testament laws are still under effect as Jesus said it in the NT

Matthew 5:17-19 Do not think that I came to annul the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to annul, but to fulfill. Truly I say to you, Until the heaven and the earth pass away, in no way shall one iota or one point pass away from the Law until all comes to pass.

Therefore, whoever relaxes one of these commandments, the least, and shall teach men so, he shall be called least in the kingdom of Heaven. But whoever does and teaches them, this one shall be called great in the kingdom of Heaven.

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Welcome

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Sure you want to go that route? Like should we then be following all the law on tithes?

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a ten percent of our salary? yup :)

Isaiah 58:6 - 8
Is not this the fast that I (God) have chosen? (God chose to do without His wealth - tithe) to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry (we are His hands, as a church and individuals), and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the Lord shall be thy rearward (protection - KJV).

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But should all the commandments from the law on tithing be followed?

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yup, well tithe is one tenth of your earnings right? You don't pay in live stocks now unlike in OT

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Well, tithes never ever paid with money in OT always with goods, and yes they had money back then.

Do you believe we should above the following law????



22Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

23And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.

24And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee


25Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:

26And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,



Notice they took the tithes and ate before the lord after buying whatever their sould lusteth after? even strong drink??

Have you ever obeyed this?

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28At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:

29And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.


Do you obey the above law? every three years it was to be done.

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But it simply means income right? And since the Holy Spirit has already reside with us...so we are always with the Lord.

And about the every three years I think it's the work of the deacons, if I understand it properly, it is collecting all the tithes that have been piled up in the storage.

But I'll check with it

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But I think they are not talking only about tithing, I think it's more renewing their covenants, because in

Dueteronomy 14:22 Tithing you shall tithe all the increase of your seed that the field yields year by year.

Not sure, better check.

But about tithing alone, I'm sure

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Read Hebrews 7

I think there are different type of tithes, one of them being of the priests/levi.

1 Peter 2:5,9 says that as Christians we are priest.

Malachi 3 is talking about the priest not tithing properly. which is the teacher's favorite verse and the more important verse about tithing

I say they are priest because

And the priest, the son of Aaron, shall be with the Levites when the Levites receive tithes, and the Levites shall bring up the tenth of the tithes to the house of our God, to the chambers of the storehouse (Nehemiah 10:38).

And the Law and the Prophets are not abolished yet

So we can say that the type of tithe we are doing are the Levi's part. It makes sense.

What do you think about it?

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OH, but I thought you said the law was still in effect???


It's talking about tithing, it says tithes.

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there's only one tithe, but commands do do different things with the tithes on diiferent years, third year they shared it with fatherless, widows, strangers.

was the tithes in the chambers used for?

By the way are we not the house of God as well as the priesthood of God?

Were also sons of God, and sons are never taxed by the King.


The thing about the law is if your going to say were under the law then we must follow all the law on tithing. If there are different tithe in the law why are we not following all of it.???

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please explain from scripture when and if "all" came to pass. Or was fulfilled as KJV words it.
When you do this, you will see the tithing doctrine falls like a house of cards on a windy day.

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Jason
you must also take to note the "until the heavens and the earth pass away"

And so, TruthSeeker, All things in the law are under effect, and that thing about the three years, I'm not very sure, that's why I say I'm going to check it out.

All I was saying was that we are the levi branch as based on the 1 Peter 2:5,9 so it could mean that our responsibility on the tithe thing is on the Levi side, but if ever I'm wrong, then we should follow the three years thing.

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When's the last time up offered a sheep as a sacrifice?

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But Jesus is the sheep right?

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And also, since after the cross, God the Father exalted Jesus above everything, the only thing that change in the tithe is that instead of being God the father in charge of the tithe, Jesus is the one dispersing them.

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Bump For ultrajet

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is the law still in effect or not? You claim we are levities, which we are not, we are called kings and priests unto our God. Jesus Christ was not a priest after the levitical order. If you want to use that angle, then we could all claim to be melchizidek order priests. And as such, who should we pay tithes to, since ALL of us are priests.

Also, you are twisting the scripture about the law being fulfilled. It doesn't say that as long as the earth exists that not one jot or tittle would pass from the law. It says that Heaven and earth would not pass, until ALL of the law be fulfilled.

Where was it fulfilled?
At the cross.
Did any of the law pass before the cross, no. That is why we see Jesus heal a man, and tell him to go to the priest and offer what Moses commanded, that is why we see pharisees tithing of spices, and Jesus telling them they ought to have done that, while not leaving the other undone. That is why the gospels are full of the law (in setting), but the epistles explain this relationship between the law and grace, and where the dividing line is.
Which is, again, the cross.
Ephesians 2:13-16
Colossians 2:14-17
Hebrews 9:15-18

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hmmm, interesting, do you believe in twoness???

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Nothing will happen here if we keep arguing with each other.

Why don't you just check the site, it gives clearer explanation than me.

And if you're not still convince, you can email the owner of the site, I'm sure He'll be willing to answer.

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No one teaches biblical tithes, no one. Only them that think they do.

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This brother does preach ACTS.2:38
http://www.thewordoftruthministries....k%20Church.htm