would you go to law against anyone?
 

I know you may be surprized by this question and their are many ways no doubt it can be answered. However what are you thoughts about taking someone to law?
When does someone cease to be your brother or sister?

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If someone was threatening me in any way I would not hesitate in getting a restraining order.

If someone threatened a family member, I would act even quicker -or bypass 'the law' entirely. :)

Things get a bit tricker when dealing with financial matters such as someone cheating you or taking something then not paying. I would judge everyone of these situations as a case-by-case, but going to the law or courts would be the LAST thing I would do after other options were explored.

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When they rip me off?:hmmm


J/K I think we are never to go to law against a brother or sister & I have even felt restrained by God when a good old sinner heathen has ripped me off!

Sometimes we have to bear an injustice no matter the cause.

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I have. I would again.

It's no fun, it's expensive, it's miserable and stress inducing. But yeah, I'd do anything to protect my kids.

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Go ahead and sue sister Alvear. You are thinking about it and are looking for justification. Just do it.

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Good thread.

What if a 21 yr old in your congregation pursued and had sexual intercourse with your 15 yr old daughter ?

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Who shall I sue?

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I think that under certain circumstances I'd be hard pressed not to take a brother or sister before the law. However, I must be honest, I believe that Paul's admonishion not to take a brother or a sister before the law and the courts is in keeping with the concept of Christian forgiveness. If we are wronged, no matter how severe, I think the Christian idea is that we forgive...no matter how difficult it may be to do so.

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Not sure a lawsuit would be my choice of action.....

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That comes under taking the law into your own hands.

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I know we may feel like taking the law in our own hands but I don´t think it would be the best thing...Tempers would flare! A lawyer would keep it in the right perspective.

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What would the guy from Little House on the Prairie do?

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Little Joe Cartwright would ALWAYS try to settle it man-to-man, but if that didn't work, a shootout was the likely outcome.

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Not sure I would sue a brother or sister, but I am presently suing my employer for terminating my insurance coverage without notification.

Left me holding a $50,000 hospital bill.

I do believe there are occasions when lawsuits are permissible. To me, the intent of the admonition deals more with Christians fighting each other, and choosing to air their grievances in front of unbelievers.

But, I think a lot of strange things.....

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We are called to be good stewards of our money and if it is a last resort, I think you would have to consider it.

For example: If a minister leaves with the churches money, I believe it is the churches responsibly to try and recover it. If he refuses to give it back then I consider him to be a theif. Is a theif a brother?

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I may have misinterpreted the intent, brother.

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Well, I know you can't really file a "lawsuit" in that situation as it is a criminal problem and not a civil one. (legally speaking)

So would you go to the law and through the process of testimony or just try to resolve through the pastors office and God.... or both.

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Brother, in the past regarding perceived wrongs, I have walked away. I have never involved the pastor, but many have involved me since I became a pastor.

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Just curious, not condemning, but why do you always post in a large bolded font?

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So this would be an instance you would just walk away from ?

I don't know really , lol. I have always posted that way on all of my forums.

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[QUOTE=scotty;672554]So this would be an instance you would just walk away from ?



I am not sure I could walk away from the 21 yr old Christian brother who engaged in sexual intercourse with my 15 yr old daughter.

There is just so much wrong about the entire scenario-- but I'd be lying if I tried to state I would not be tempted to physically hurt the 21 yr old.

At a bare minimum, this would be grounds to go to the law, but I am sure there is someone more spiritual who can admonish me in the error of my thinking in your scenario.

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It is better to hold your peace and do something right than to do something that you later regret...
There are right ways to do things...it may take a little longer but it is worth it in the end.

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The BEST thing to do in these situations is hold your breath and count to 10. After that, any decision made will always be a better one.

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That is what I have been doing for a few months...
You are wise, Randy.

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Depends on what kind of outcome you want? Paul appealed to Caesar when dealing with his conflict with the Jews. Yet he was willing to be done wrong in regards to his reputation within the church community.

In regards to legal property and matters of corporate law, then the legal world is much better in dealing with those issue, at least that is my take. Others might have a different opinion.

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Keith we prayed for you...glad you were not hurt...

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I actually was banged up more by the hard packed snow than the wreck, now I need to figure out how to get the truck fixed. But overall thankful no one was hurt all around.

Thanks for praying.

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You know at one time I would have said no. I believed strongly about not taking your brother to court. NOW, after the last 5 years I have had and the things I dealt with at the hands of a 'brother', YES.

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That is really how I feel about some things also. I am open for opinions... I no longer consider the person ....in the Lord....but of course some do...however my personal feelings may not be how the Lord feels...
I have talked with several lawyers and all told me the same thing...Which is very good for my part however I am still praying.

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That's a tough question.

I'm thinking that if someone commits a crime, that has to be reported, because there's the possibility that the person might do it again.

As for lawsuits, I personally think that staying away from the courts is a Good Idea in just about every situation. Unfortunately, as I've found out, just because you live a good life and keep your nose clean, it doesn't mean you won't end up in some sort of lawsuit. I got a settlement from a class-action employment suit two years ago and I basically did nothing to get it. It was more an annoyance than anything else, as I almost forgot to report the "income" on my taxes!

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Erm, that's not a lawsuit, that's statutory sexual assault (a crime) and should be reported to law enforcement.

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It'd be embezzlement, a crime. It's happened to a number of churches here in Phoenix over the several years I've lived here. I even heard about a church in California where the pastor basically sold the church out from underneath the congregation and tried to abscond with the proceeds. He was caught (which is how I heard of it)>

These days, it seems like we take each other to court over the silliest things. I don't want to judge people who do it, but having been involved in a couple of fairly serious lawsuits with a determined adversary that had deep pockets, my goal in life is to stay as far away from the courts as possible. And yes, I did get a law degree 20 years ago!

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20 years ago...a lot of things has happened in 20 years....

I encouraged a person the other day to go for a degree...we have a lady in our church in Brazil that is studying to be a lawyer.

I have good friends that are lawyers but I don´t think I would enjoy being a lawyer...

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The paperwork and forms would drive me batty!

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I investigate computing system failures now and I like my job a lot. I get to talk to a lot of people and learn about cutting-edge technologies. It's not what I thought I'd be doing 20 years ago, but then again, computers weren't used then the way they are now. I first got online in 1990.

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Sometimes to protect our name and God´s work going to law might be necessary.

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The answer is IT DEPENDS.

I would like to say I would not... but...

I have had to use the courts to evict tenants that owed me thousands.

Jesus said, "If someone takes your coat - give him your coat also" BUT what if they take your coat, cloak, car, house, kids and wife????

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With each day that passes I feel that some people are NOT our brothers and sisters and we are free if needed to protect ourselves from slander and wrong doings.

Stephen...get your money if at all possible!

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I don't ever remember evicting a tenant. But some tenants did take us to court because it rained really hard and some of their furniture got damaged when water got into the house. They refused to pay their rent and sued us. We missed a day of work and a bunch of hassle, and they owed us money but the judge ruled in our favor, meaning that we were out the money they owed us, but they didn't get anything out of us money-wise.