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Rhoni 01-09-2009 11:48 AM

Changing Denominations
 
It is time. I have tried, tried, fought it and fought it but kept doing the same things over and over again. I am no longer Pentecostal/Apostolic. A good friend told me, not too long ago in fact, that I should join a Methodist church and forget about it. Well, a Methodist I am not, but I am now officially..."A Christian".

Blessings, Rhoni

scotty 01-09-2009 11:52 AM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Could you define "Christian" for us please ?

Would you mind sharing your "Statement of Faith" ?

How about "What you Believe" ?

Do you agree with any of the following ? ~~

Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:

Those that believe that every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith
with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.


2020Vision 01-09-2009 11:53 AM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677567)
It is time. I have tried, tried, fought it and fought it but kept doing the same things over and over again. I am no longer Pentecostal/Apostolic. A good friend told me, not too long ago in fact, that I should join a Methodist church and forget about it. Well, a Methodist I am not, but I am now officially..."A Christian".

Blessings, Rhoni

Not a big surprise. There are many on here that are in the same boat, they just have the Apostolic bumper stickers still.

Regarding the latter part of what you said... then there's hope! :)

TJJJ 01-09-2009 11:54 AM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677567)
It is time. I have tried, tried, fought it and fought it but kept doing the same things over and over again. I am no longer Pentecostal/Apostolic. A good friend told me, not too long ago in fact, that I should join a Methodist church and forget about it. Well, a Methodist I am not, but I am now officially..."A Christian".

Blessings, Rhoni

Methodists believe in a triune godhead, a trinity, is that really what you believe Rhoni?

Bowas 01-09-2009 11:54 AM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677567)
It is time. I have tried, tried, fought it and fought it but kept doing the same things over and over again. I am no longer Pentecostal/Apostolic. A good friend told me, not too long ago in fact, that I should join a Methodist church and forget about it. Well, a Methodist I am not, but I am now officially..."A Christian".

Blessings, Rhoni

Sorry to see you leave us. Not sure where you will end up there. You will be pretty much alone most of the time.
I am sure there will still be some Pentecostal/Apostolics around if you change your mind.

scotty 01-09-2009 11:55 AM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 677574)
Methodists believe in a triune godhead, a trinity, is that really what you believe Rhoni?


Easy, she said she was NOT Methodist..

scotty 01-09-2009 11:57 AM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 677576)
Sorry to see you leave us. Not sure where you will end up there. You will be pretty much alone most of the time.
I am sure there will still be some Pentecostal/Apostolics around if you change your mind.


Are you serious ? Sooooooooo , you will disassociate yourself from her for this statement she has made ? And how is it you speak for everyone ?

TJJJ 01-09-2009 12:00 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 677577)
Easy, she said she was NOT Methodist..

My mistake, I read it wrong. Let me say that I have disassociated myself from denominations myself. I classify myself as an independent Oneness. The more I see of denominational hierarchy the more I hate it.

God bless you in your walk Rhoni.

Stephanas 01-09-2009 12:08 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677567)
It is time. I have tried, tried, fought it and fought it but kept doing the same things over and over again. I am no longer Pentecostal/Apostolic. A good friend told me, not too long ago in fact, that I should join a Methodist church and forget about it. Well, a Methodist I am not, but I am now officially..."A Christian".

Blessings, Rhoni

Christian is a good choice.

There's way too few of them around a lot of churches.

But, you don't have to leave Pentecostal to become Christian.

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:14 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 677572)
Could you define "Christian" for us please ?

Would you mind sharing your "Statement of Faith" ?

How about "What you Believe" ?

Do you agree with any of the following ? ~~

Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:

Those that believe that every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith
with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

I have received what is termed "The APostolic Experience" but no longer claim to be Apostolic. I really don't believe in the cultish practices of the religiosity that many Apostolic Churches profess/teach/and exploit.

If the admin would like me to disappear for not claiming to be Apostolic in denomination then I will. Although we have many people on here that don't calim to be "Apostolic" or go to those type of churches themselves any longer.

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2020Vision (Post 677573)
Not a big surprise. There are many on here that are in the same boat, they just have the Apostolic bumper stickers still.

Regarding the latter part of what you said... then there's hope! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 677574)
Methodists believe in a triune godhead, a trinity, is that really what you believe Rhoni?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 677576)
Sorry to see you leave us. Not sure where you will end up there. You will be pretty much alone most of the time.
I am sure there will still be some Pentecostal/Apostolics around if you change your mind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 677577)
Easy, she said she was NOT Methodist..

Thank you Scotty for actually reading my posts and not misinterpreting my perceived agenda.

I am not alone. I was alone trying to fit into a mold I was not created for.

Blessigns, Rhoni

TJJJ 01-09-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677595)
I have received what is termed "The APostolic Experience" but no longer claim to be Apostolic. I really don't believe in the cultish practices of the religiosity that many Apostolic Churches profess/teach/and exploit.

If the admin would like me to disappear for not claiming to be Apostolic in denomination then I will. Although we have many people on here that don't calim to be "Apostolic" or go to those type of churches themselves any longer.

Blessings, Rhoni

Can I respectfully ask what specifically made you change you views?

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephanas (Post 677586)
Christian is a good choice.

There's way too few of them around a lot of churches.

But, you don't have to leave Pentecostal to become Christian.

Actually, sometimes you do:snowing

2020Vision 01-09-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677595)
I have received what is termed "The APostolic Experience" but no longer claim to be Apostolic. I really don't believe in the cultish practices of the religiosity that many Apostolic Churches profess/teach/and exploit.

If the admin would like me to disappear for not claiming to be Apostolic in denomination then I will. Although we have many people on here that don't calim to be "Apostolic" or go to those type of churches themselves any longer.

Blessings, Rhoni

You are right about that.

Yours,

Proud member of the Jesus Cult

2020Vision 01-09-2009 12:18 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
I wish you all the best... hopefully your road has a U-Turn included at some point.

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:20 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 677599)
Can I respectfully ask what specifically made you change you views?

There are multiple reasons why. I choose to look at things progressionally. God leads us to higher levels of revelation in him as we mature in relationship with God.

I am a very difficult person to change but when you have banged your head against a wall for several decades then it is time to listen to God and change.

If you want more specific than that you might look around you and the saints that go to your church and see how much is just "fitting into the societal structure" and what is truly of God.

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:22 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2020Vision (Post 677601)
You are right about that.

Yours,

Proud member of the Jesus Cult

That is just it - Jesus is not a "Cult Leader". He set us free from that "Cultish behavior". Drinking His cup is not drinking the kool-aid as is drinking the cup of religiosity!
Blessings, Rhoni

TJJJ 01-09-2009 12:23 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Again, any particular reason?????????

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:23 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2020Vision (Post 677602)
I wish you all the best... hopefully your road has a U-Turn included at some point.

NOPE - "I could turn around for the road is still there - but every mountain that I climbed I again would have to bear..."
:treadmill:

Cindy 01-09-2009 12:23 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
God bless you, sister girl. Love you, and will be praying for you.

Dedicated Mind 01-09-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
This year's drama queen award goes to...............







RHONI!!!!!!

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 677610)
Again, any particular reason?????????

I am aware of yoru identity...I think you can guess ome of them:snowing

Michael Phelps 01-09-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677595)
I have received what is termed "The APostolic Experience" but no longer claim to be Apostolic. I really don't believe in the cultish practices of the religiosity that many Apostolic Churches profess/teach/and exploit.

If the admin would like me to disappear for not claiming to be Apostolic in denomination then I will. Although we have many people on here that don't calim to be "Apostolic" or go to those type of churches themselves any longer.

Blessings, Rhoni

I think I can speak for the rest of the admins in this case, you don't need to disappear at all.

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:25 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 677613)
This year's drama queen award goes to...............







RHONI!!!!!!

Cool. I made another list, but St. Mark may be disappointed - he enjoys that title.:gotcha

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:26 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 677615)
I think I can speak for the rest of the admins in this case, you don't need to disappear at all.

Thank you, I would have been :angelsad

Love you guys,
Rhoni

TJJJ 01-09-2009 12:28 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Rhoni, there are many of us who have been disappointed in various denominations, UPCI, ALJC, ACI, PAW and etc. Bear in mind that in all of them there is the humanity issue. God is not the issue here but humanity. Anytime you have humanity you will have these same issues. But don't make the mistake to think that the doctrines that make us APOSTOLIC are the issue. Ie, Acts 2:38, repentence, baptism in Jesus name, infilling of the Holy Ghost, holiness. There are many independent Oneness believers that are just as filled up with the garbage as you are. Look around before you leap, there are people that are in the exact same place as you who would willingly help.

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:38 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 677619)
Rhoni, there are many of us who have been disappointed in various denominations, UPCI, ALJC, ACI, PAW and etc. Bear in mind that in all of them there is the humanity issue. God is not the issue here but humanity. Anytime you have humanity you will have these same issues. But don't make the mistake to think that the doctrines that make us APOSTOLIC are the issue. Ie, Acts 2:38, repentence, baptism in Jesus name, infilling of the Holy Ghost, holiness. There are many independent Oneness believers that are just as filled up with the garbage as you are. Look around before you leap, there are people that are in the exact same place as you who would willingly help.

You know; I used to think I was special but now I know I am just like everyone else. I have made many mistakes, followed wrong paths, and served lesser gods unknowingly. AT this point the only one that can help me is Jesus Christ and He alone.

You, and others like you can pray for me because that is the only thing that will make any difference to me right now.

Thank you though,
Rhoni

LadyCoonskinner 01-09-2009 12:39 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677595)
I have received what is termed "The APostolic Experience" but no longer claim to be Apostolic. I really don't believe in the cultish practices of the religiosity that many Apostolic Churches profess/teach/and exploit.
If the admin would like me to disappear for not claiming to be Apostolic in denomination then I will. Although we have many people on here that don't calim to be "Apostolic" or go to those type of churches themselves any longer.

Blessings, Rhoni

To be honest, Rhoni, I am so sick of you "spouting" this term and using it to bash and "experience" that I highly believe in. WE ARE NOT A CULT!!!!! And I, for one, am sick of people who really want to 'trash' what I, and many others on this forum, stand for, called this STUPID term.

I don't have time right now to finish this, but I will be back and complete my statement.

Sister Alvear 01-09-2009 12:39 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
love you Rhoni...you have always been my friend and I am yours...Please stay around...

TJJJ 01-09-2009 12:43 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677614)
I am aware of yoru identity...I think you can guess ome of them:snowing

Rhoni, I am new to this forum, I do not know hardly anyone personally. I have never been to rockfall, TX. Sorry.

Again, I ask the question...... One specific point. How can we began a diagnosis without knowing the symptoms?

Was it holiness, were you offended at someone, just what was the problem?

:nah

Bowas 01-09-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 677578)
Are you serious ? Sooooooooo , you will disassociate yourself from her for this statement she has made ? And how is it you speak for everyone ?

I thought it was just a statement on being labeled "Christian" as opposed to other titles such as Pentecostal/Apostolic or even Methodist, to which I can agree. We sometimes are more Pentecostal/Apostolic than we are "Christian".
I must have misunderstood the original post.

Sister Alvear 01-09-2009 12:47 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
I have not walked in Rhoni´s shoes...but we all limp one way or the other...
Rhoni, we both know the HG is real and it is people not God that inflicts our wounds...I was stabbed more this past year than ever before...hurt deeper than ever before...some people will never be the same to me...BUT God did not do it...some of his children did it...sometimes we all want to run...stop the spinning and get off...but life continues...people are the same...Many times pastures look greener across the field but when you get there it is the same story...humans...
We all stumble...as human he too stumbled ...we all have our calvaries...via dolorosas...

I am praying for you...

Scott Hutchinson 01-09-2009 12:48 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Not to sound judgemental but I would not go Trinity or to a Non-Spirit filled church.
Yes be a Christian but be one like the early Christians in the NT.

Amos 01-09-2009 12:49 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Dear Rhoni,

I'm sure you will be very happy on this portion of your journey onward. Many new and exciting experiences, revelations, and insights await.

Be sure and keep us posted on the new horizons that stretch out before you as your vision expands and becomes ever more inclusive.

2020Vision 01-09-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 677619)
Rhoni, there are many of us who have been disappointed in various denominations, UPCI, ALJC, ACI, PAW and etc. Bear in mind that in all of them there is the humanity issue. God is not the issue here but humanity. Anytime you have humanity you will have these same issues. But don't make the mistake to think that the doctrines that make us APOSTOLIC are the issue. Ie, Acts 2:38, repentence, baptism in Jesus name, infilling of the Holy Ghost, holiness. There are many independent Oneness believers that are just as filled up with the garbage as you are. Look around before you leap, there are people that are in the exact same place as you who would willingly help.

Wisdom in these remarks.

TJJJ 01-09-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Rhoni, you know what is amazing? When people say they want to be like Jesus! They are thinking of walking on water, healing the sick etc. What Jesus is thinking of, when they say that, is stripes on your back and a crown of thorns. As like Sis Alvear, at the end of the road you will have many scars, stab wounds and stripes to show. Then and only then will we be like Him!

2020Vision 01-09-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 677640)
I thought it was just a statement on being labeled "Christian" as opposed to other titles such as Pentecostal/Apostolic or even Methodist, to which I can agree. We sometimes are more Pentecostal/Apostolic than we are "Christian".
I must have misunderstood the original post.

Semantics.

Scott Hutchinson 01-09-2009 12:51 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
I've been hurt too myself recently but the book of Acts experience is real and it will always be One God and Jesus Name.
I'm not throwing that aside.

Rhoni 01-09-2009 12:52 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 677640)
I thought it was just a statement on being labeled "Christian" as opposed to other titles such as Pentecostal/Apostolic or even Methodist, to which I can agree. We sometimes are more Pentecostal/Apostolic than we are "Christian".
I must have misunderstood the original post.


You did understand. I am "Christian", as the term "Pentecostal/Apostolic" has so much negative connotation for me and many others that I do not want to be associated with the term and many of the people.

Sis CS, it is you, and others like you that I have no toelrance for so what you think of me is of no consesequence.

Sis. Alvear, I do understand the concept of what you are saying but you must understand that for me to allow myself to be put in the position of another inflicting these same open wounds would be egregious on my part - wouldn't you say?

Respectfully, Rhoni

Neck 01-09-2009 12:53 PM

Re: Changing Denominations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 677567)
It is time. I have tried, tried, fought it and fought it but kept doing the same things over and over again. I am no longer Pentecostal/Apostolic. A good friend told me, not too long ago in fact, that I should join a Methodist church and forget about it. Well, a Methodist I am not, but I am now officially..."A Christian".

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni, I met Gloria Hanby at the General Conference in 198X and talked to her and her son Todd.

Todd was a childhood classmate and friend.

Gloria being the x-wife of Mark Hanby.

She shared with me how she was then attending a Methodist Church.

I recently went to a Methoist Church in town and met a young pastor.

He shocked me when after talking he stated that he had been Baptized in JN.

WHich he stated to me was his choice.

He also shared with me that he openly preaches and teaches on the speaking of tounges and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

He told me that he shared with his local leadership in the Methodist church they could either accept it or ask for his card.

He then shared with me what part the Methodist church played in the 20th Century revivials.

God bless you and continue with the Lord.

He is good and you are a great lady....

Sincerely,


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