JP Don't Forget
 

.....you aren't completely in an isolated box on the web.

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JP = Judas Priest ?

I like metal, too ...

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There was a famous somebody named JP Morgan once I believe.

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Explain.

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Nothing to explain.

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mmkay

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Those that posted with Jim Yohe - do you think he would be disappointed in AFF?

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Never posted with him ... have read some of his stuff ...

From what I see ... the spirit of censorship .... sickened him.

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*sigh* :(

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I know.

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Nope! :)

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No, not at all!! He would love it, its much like the original. He is smilin' : )

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Quite cryptic....

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whoah, Sandra. The pounds are dropping!! :)

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Sister,

It's been deleted.

To bad we cannot all get along.

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quite possibly.

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...and as JP has a certain reputation, it should be pointed out that the comment in question was NOT made by any of the usual suspects.

JP: For what it's worth...... my take
 

Ya know, I have no clue to what brought this thread, but knowing some of the history of the aforementioned, it really is too bad. It's not so much that they can't get along, but that they choose to not get along. For many of you, it's probably unfortunate that the JP group weren't in that isolated box, to finally purge you of their antics once and for all. :blah :blah :blah :blah :blah

Lesson: Ignorance really is bliss. :hanky And when you can't claim it, fake it!

From my perspective, them pulling out of here and restricting their enrollment, is far better than us having to find or create yet another forum. It's also better than me having to go through the hastle of placing them on ignore. Are many of them good people? Probably! Might there be some valuable content at their site? Perhaps. But, people's character has been demonstrated both while they were here and by the actions they've taken since leaving and honostly, I couldn't care less for what they may have to say any longer.

Whew, I'm tired! ;) Peace, and good night.

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Interesting that THE person who would know better than anyone else believes that Jim would love it. As far as I'm concerned, that settles it for me.

However, I can just hear the echo in the "drum" "She's just a charismatic anyway. You can't trust anything she says!"

I guess truth is only truth when it comes from a certain direction. That IS sad, indeed! :D

If I understand what I have heard about Jim, he was FOR the liberty and freedom in posting even if folks didn't like what that meant. Sandra, am I off base with that assumption?

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But Jim even had his limits, and banned libs and cons alike.

Attitudes were NEVER allowed, although any discussion always was.

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I do believe that has been the change in the forum. Attitudes from both sides leave a lot to be desired lately!

Seems Jan/Feb is an annual self-purging time on forums - what's up with that?

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I am just here for the :girlpopcorn

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I believe that five or six years ago, Apostolics were new to open discussion on forums and the different segments were more tolerant and enjoyed the banter back and forth.

Over time, the conservative segment became less tolerant of questioning of things they hold dear. After hearing the same arguments over and over and over again, they retreated back to just surrounding themselves with folks of like faith (standards).

I have found it nearly impossible to get an Ultra-Con to communicate as if we are all on equal spiritual footing. (Sis. Alvear and a few others are the exception) They simply feel that they are spiritually superior.

Jimmy Yohe himself couldn't have prevented the natural separation of the differing segments of the Apostolic faith. It appears that the dream has almost died!

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The drama plays out like the founding of the upci.

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Come to think of it, that's true!

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Legalists never play well with others.

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And neither do smarmy know it all liberals..........But us moderates we are equally hated of all men......:angelsad :killinme :killinme

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Some profound truth here!

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Since you admit we know it all, shouldn't ya'll listen? :statbike:

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I missed it all again. :D

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and some of us are more smarmy than other!

what is up my brothers in smarm?

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Yup.....

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Suggestion to all moderates: Duck!!!!!!!!! :lol

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Very good insight!

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I agree with this somewhat. People being people and everyone thinking they are right.

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone thinking they are right. That is what opinions are. The problem arises when someone says that you're going to hell because your opinion is not my opinion and my opinion just happens to be THE bible opinion because I say it does!

Spiritual "Jihadists" abound in almost every denomination. I think it's akin to what is called "Manifest Destiny." The term was coined by John O'Sullivan in about 1845 to describe the U.S's expansion into the West. It also became the "doctrine" of expansion overseas as well. Once a person or a group embraces "Manifest Destiny" as their mantra, either expressed or implied, no holds are barred in furthering their cause, seeing themselves as the "Sword of God."

It is the thinking behind all the holy wars, which sadly, haven't ceased in our day. :D

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I'm sure there are some things he would do differently, but even FCF would have morphed after a while. Forums seem to do that.

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And no matter how they morph, some folks are not going to be comfortable with what it morphs into. Such is life. Change is inevitable....misery is optional! :D

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Yepper!

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But when you HAVE to be right all the time, something is very wrong. I have had opinions changed because I read or listen. Not my belief's, just opinions.
I think some think if they agree with the other side about anything, it changes their belief system. And I guess that is scary to them.