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freeatlast 01-17-2009 05:33 PM

Denim skirts out of blue jeans at UPC seminar
 
I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?

Cindy 01-17-2009 05:33 PM

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You can make purses and stuff too.

Mrs. LPW 01-17-2009 05:35 PM

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What's there to comment about?
I can't sew.

ChTatum 01-17-2009 05:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684847)
I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?

Bless God, it's just like that lottery money.....the devil has used it long enough, it's time for God's people to get some use out of it too!:nutso

Arphaxad 01-17-2009 05:41 PM

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If skirts are made out of pants are they transgender?he he ha ha :slaphappy

ARPH:doggyrun

Cindy 01-17-2009 05:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arphaxad (Post 684856)
If skirts are made out of pants are they transgender?he he ha ha :slaphappy

ARPH:doggyrun

:lol

freeatlast 01-17-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 684851)
What's there to comment about?
I can't sew.

maybe it's just me...my wife has one or two denim skirts. I've never been a big fan.

I do not see any scripture to tell a women she can't wear pants.

But it blows my mind that the UC that demand dresses only on women will allow an article of clothing that argue is "pertaining to a man" to be cut and resewn in a different fassion and "Shazam" the "abomination" as they say, is gone.

Mrs. LPW 01-17-2009 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684858)
maybe it's just me...my wife has one or two denim skirts. I've never been a big fan.

I do not see any scripture to tell a women she can't wear pants.

But it blows my mind that the UC that demand dresses only on women will allow an article of clothing that argue is "pertaining to a man" to be cut and resewn in a different fassion and "Shazam" the "abomination" as they say, is gone.

I think we all know it's the dividing of the garment that is the issue.

Oh I may as well take it another step further.
Is it the Jean you're not a fan of, or the skirt?
Since many of my friends who are not of my Pentecostal persuasion love thier jeans and wear them as much as possible.



Arph, :spit

Cindy 01-17-2009 05:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684858)
maybe it's just me...my wife has one or two denim skirts. I've never been a big fan.

I do not see any scripture to tell a women she can't wear pants.

But it blows my mind that the UC that demand dresses only on women will allow an article of clothing that argue is "pertaining to a man" to be cut and resewn in a different fassion and "Shazam" the "abomination" as they say, is gone.

Oh okay, got it. I think you are kind of overreacting.

freeatlast 01-17-2009 05:49 PM

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In a place I use to work at, the men would shake their head in disbelief at some of "our women" when they came in blue denim jean skirts and tennis shoes.

Someone would usally inform me that some bun ladies were on the floor and ask if I wanted to wait on them?

Cindy 01-17-2009 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684864)
In a place I use to work at, the men would shake their head in disbelief at some of "our women" when they came in blue denim jean skirts and tennis shoes.

Someone would usally inform me that some bun ladies were on the floor and ask if I wanted to wait on them?

What is really the point of this? There are rude people everywhere. It's sad.

freeatlast 01-17-2009 05:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 684861)
I think we all know it's the dividing of the garment that is the issue.

Oh I may as well take it another step further.
Is it the Jean you're not a fan of, or the skirt?
Since many of my friends who are not of my Pentecostal persuasion love thier jeans and wear them as much as possible.



Arph, :spit

what do you mean by the dividing of the garment?

they divided Christs garments.

Hoovie 01-17-2009 05:51 PM

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Seminar Title: More Than One Way to Get in a Man's Pants!

freeatlast 01-17-2009 05:55 PM

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I guess my point is, and apologize for my offensivness, My point is we demand dresses only to show our separation and our holiness.

Yes, Mrs. LPW It's the jeans skirt i am not a fan of.

I have no problem with skirts in general, I just see jean skirts as a "not quite up to par witness"

OK you can shoot me now.

freeatlast 01-17-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 684868)
Seminar Title: More Than One Way to Get in a Man's Pants!

That would have filled th class for sure steve. ;-)

Mrs. LPW 01-17-2009 05:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684864)
In a place I use to work at, the men would shake their head in disbelief at some of "our women" when they came in blue denim jean skirts and tennis shoes.

Someone would usally inform me that some bun ladies were on the floor and ask if I wanted to wait on them?

Cindy's right. There are rude people everywhere.

Do you even realize how many dowdy looking women there are wearing pants out there? My word man... wake up. There are dowdy looking people in the Weslyan church down the street from ours. There are dowdy looking people in my church, and there are men who look just as dowdy as women.
I look dowdy right now with my hair down around my face.

Get over it. Whether a person is fashionable or not is unimportant.

That said, there are people in my church who are not dowdy, do not wear jean skirts continually and do not wear tennis shoes and bobby socks with their skirts.

I personally don't care how fashionable someone is. I care if they are clean and sensible and Christ-like. You can wear a dress down to your ankles in the shower and still have a nasty attitude. You can look like you've just walked off the pages of People Magazine and still have a nasty attitude.

So again I ask, is it the jean you're not a fan of, or the skirt itself?

Mrs. LPW 01-17-2009 05:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684869)
I guess my point is, and apologize for my offensivness, My point is we demand dresses only to show our separation and our holiness.

Yes, Mrs. LPW It's the jeans skirt i am not a fan of.

I have no problem with skirts in general, I just see jean skirts as a "not quite up to par witness"

OK you can shoot me now.

So would a pair of jeans also be "not quite up to par"?

freeatlast 01-17-2009 06:00 PM

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According the "official" interpretion of Duet 22:5 Denim was a material made a designed for men that worked in harsh conditions. The material held well. Denim is definetly a material that "pertains to men"

But yet in our churches it's like a ladies uniform.

It's the inconsistency of our standards that irks me, on the issues of what a woman can wear.

RandyWayne 01-17-2009 06:02 PM

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Doesn't the Word say, "By their blue skirts you will know them"?
Time to repost a picture of the first female apostolic astronaut:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...eWalkerUPC.jpg

freeatlast 01-17-2009 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 684871)
Cindy's right. There are rude people everywhere.

Do you even realize how many dowdy looking women there are wearing pants out there? My word man... wake up. There are dowdy looking people in the Weslyan church down the street from ours. There are dowdy looking people in my church, and there are men who look just as dowdy as women.
I look dowdy right now with my hair down around my face.

Get over it. Whether a person is fashionable or not is unimportant.

That said, there are people in my church who are not dowdy, do not wear jean skirts continually and do not wear tennis shoes and bobby socks with their skirts.

I personally don't care how fashionable someone is. I care if they are clean and sensible and Christ-like. You can wear a dress down to your ankles in the shower and still have a nasty attitude. You can look like you've just walked off the pages of People Magazine and still have a nasty attitude.

So again I ask, is it the jean you're not a fan of, or the skirt itself?

Asked and answered mamm, I could care less weather you wear slacks or dress or skirts......I ME it's just ME that i can't stand the jean skirt bobby sox and sneakers look that I see as I walk thru WalMart.

and most of these women at WalMart are not "our folks". We have a Bible Missionary College" here and those folks are more screwed up than us on standards issues

Cindy 01-17-2009 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684873)
According the "official" interpretion of Duet 22:5 Denim was a material made a designed for men that worked in harsh conditions. The material held well. Denim is definetly a material that "pertains to men"

But yet in our churches it's like a ladies uniform.

It's the inconsistency of our standards that irks me, on the issues of what a woman can wear.

I don't wear denim skirts, but I don't have a problem with others doing so. But I don't find material a standard issue either.

freeatlast 01-17-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 684872)
So would a pair of jeans also be "not quite up to par"?

Well they do look better with white sox and tennis shoes that wearing a dress with sneakers.

Arphaxad 01-17-2009 06:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 684875)
Doesn't the Word say, "By their blue skirts you will know them"?
Time to repost a picture of the first female apostolic astronaut:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...eWalkerUPC.jpg




:yourock

You're a funny guy, Pauly.



ARPH:doggyrun

freeatlast 01-17-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 684879)
I don't wear denim skirts, but I don't have a problem with others doing so. But I don't find material a standard issue either.

Welll just a couple verses wawy from Duet 22:5 is a verse tha deals with "materials". of course we just skip over that one, in fact we do as Paul instructed us and skip over 612 of the 613 laws of the Torah.

But for some reason 50 years some preacher thought he had license to aplly one of those laws to our women and make it a part of the gospel.

Mrs. LPW 01-17-2009 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684880)
Well they do look better with white sox and tennis shoes that wearing a dress with sneakers.

So that scripture you quoted...

What is it going to be? Fashion or Bible, both or neither?

I'd really love to know what purpose you had in mind when you posted this thread? To tick me off? For some reason my fuse is short tonight and I actually had a great day. Guess I'm just not in the mood to be insulted.

Cindy 01-17-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684883)
Welll just a couple verses wawy from Duet 22:5 is a verse tha deals with "materials". of course we just skip over that one, in fact we do as Paul instructed us and skip over 612 of the 613 laws of the Torah.

But for some reason 50 years some preacher thought he had license to aplly one of those laws to our women and make it a part of the gospel.

I am not skipping over anything. I just don't have a problem with this as much as you apparently do. I don't force outward standards on people.

RandyWayne 01-17-2009 06:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arphaxad (Post 684882)
:yourock

You're a funny guy, Pauly.



ARPH:doggyrun

My "inspiration" for this was the times we, as a youth group, went downhill skiing and all the girls/young ladies wore jean skirts over their snow pants. It was not a witness... it just looked dumb.

Mrs. LPW 01-17-2009 06:32 PM

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I'll never understand why we can't get over what other Christians do and be about the business of winning souls. Leave it for God and thier pastors.

Sister Alvear 01-17-2009 06:33 PM

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I seldom wear jean skirts but have no feelings against them...in fact some are real cute on my skinny daughter in laws...

freeatlast 01-17-2009 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 684887)
So that scripture you quoted...

What is it going to be? Fashion or Bible, both or neither?

I'd really love to know what purpose you had in mind when you posted this thread? To tick me off? For some reason my fuse is short tonight and I actually had a great day. Guess I'm just not in the mood to be insulted.

Sorry, if I'd a known that i would have just continued to lurk.

I was just curious about this class originally, if this is a class that is offered at other conferences.

The break out session was SERIOSLY entitled, : "making denim skirts out blue jeans"

anybody else been to a class like this or some other "off the wall" class at a seminar?

RandyWayne 01-17-2009 06:34 PM

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I guess I could care less about jean skirts other than it is just THE look (along with the 'poof') that has been adopted to let the world know that you (if you are of the female persuasion) are part of THE Church.

The follow up question is always, but what if you are a guy????? I guess "we" just have to let the fruits be love and compassion.

Cindy 01-17-2009 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684883)
Welll just a couple verses wawy from Duet 22:5 is a verse tha deals with "materials". of course we just skip over that one, in fact we do as Paul instructed us and skip over 612 of the 613 laws of the Torah.

But for some reason 50 years some preacher thought he had license to aplly one of those laws to our women and make it a part of the gospel.

So you're not against women wearing denim, but preacher's preaching it is suddenly okay after 50 years of preaching it wasn't?

Tina 01-17-2009 06:35 PM

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Have you ever seen a skirt that has been made from a pair of jeans? They are actually decent looking skirts.

I have scrub pants converted to skirts to wear to work. I don't like the scrub skirts because they make my hips look even wider than they already are. The skirts I have made from the scrub pants are more flattering. Believe it or not. In fact, ALL of the pentecostal ladies who work where I am employed prefer the skirts that are made from the pants--and will pay well to have someone remake the pants into a skirt. They are just look better than regular scrub skirts.

Mrs. LPW 01-17-2009 06:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 684893)
I guess I could care less about jean skirts other than it is just THE look (along with the 'poof') that has been adopted.

Randy, I'm going to do my mother proud and not say everything that has just popped into my head.

But some of the styles I have seen running around... I'd take the horrible poof and mid calf jeanskirts with bobby socks any day.

Someone put some jeans on skinny hairy man legs and a longer top over the belly fat that's hanging out over top of some women wearing thier hipster jeans.

:stop

freeatlast 01-17-2009 06:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 684889)
My "inspiration" for this was the times we, as a youth group, went downhill skiing and all the girls/young ladies wore jean skirts over their snow pants. It was not a witness... it just looked dumb.

Randy, our girls were forced to do this at a church i use to attend.

My question?? how does wearing a skirt OVER the mens apparel UNABOMINATE it ??

For we are all told, according to Dt 22:5, that wearing that which pertains to a man is an abominiation.

Tina 01-17-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 684896)
Randy, I'm going to do my mother proud and not say everything that has just popped into my head.

But some of the styles I have seen running around... I'd take the horrible poof and mid calf jeanskirts with bobby socks any day.

Someone put some jeans on skinny hairy man legs and a longer top over the belly fat that's hanging out over top of some women wearing thier hipster jeans.

:stop

I agree. :D

Cindy 01-17-2009 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684897)
Randy, our girls were forced to do this at a church i use to attend.

My question?? how does wearing a skirt OVER the mens apparel UNABOMINATE it ??

For we are all told, according to Dt 22:5, that wearing that which pertains to a man is an abominiation.

That is just silly. I don't care who you are.

freeatlast 01-17-2009 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 684894)
So you're not against women wearing denim, but preacher's preaching it is suddenly okay after 50 years of preaching it wasn't?

Suddenly ???

It has been nice to hear a few preachers say, I am not perfect, i was wrong on my interpretaion of the scripture in teaching you this.

But men hate to admit they wer wrong, for the most part.

RandyWayne 01-17-2009 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 684896)
Randy, I'm going to do my mother proud and not say everything that has just popped into my head.

But some of the styles I have seen running around... I'd take the horrible poof and mid calf jeanskirts with bobby socks any day.

Someone put some jeans on skinny hairy man legs and a longer top over the belly fat that's hanging out over top of some women wearing thier hipster jeans.

:stop

LOL

My Ma (of all people) bought me some jeans and their crotch was about 6 inches below where it should be. They are not quite hip hop style but I refuse to wear them.

Hoovie 01-17-2009 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 684897)
Randy, our girls were forced to do this at a church i use to attend.

My question?? how does wearing a skirt OVER the mens apparel UNABOMINATE it ??

For we are all told, according to Dt 22:5, that wearing that which pertains to a man is an abominiation.

My wife does not buy the abomination line, yet sees skirts as more modest and feminine. She does believe ladies should wear skirts.


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