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Ron 04-06-2007 10:59 AM

UGST-Seeking Accreditation
 
I received this in my email today. While I admit I am no expert on Bible Colleges
I am surprised to see so many closing down.

Is this a good thing?

The Urshan Graduate School of Theology is moving nearer to accreditation. This is a very involved process. We have been blessed to have accomplished much in this process in record time.

We are now in need of extra funding to move on forward with this process. As a member of the UGST board, I am requesting sincere prayer for the needed funding to be supplied. We are the only theological graduate school of our doctrinal persuasion. The quality of the school is superb. Somewhere, someone, and God knows, can step in and supply this need.

Join with me in this sincere prayer.

Thetus Tenney
International Coordinator
World Network of Prayer

SDG 04-06-2007 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 66764)
I received this in my email today. While I admit I am no expert on Bible Colleges
I am surprised to see so many closing down.

Is this a good thing?

The Urshan Graduate School of Theology is moving nearer to accreditation. This is a very involved process. We have been blessed to have accomplished much in this process in record time.

We are now in need of extra funding to move on forward with this process. As a member of the UGST board, I am requesting sincere prayer for the needed funding to be supplied. We are the only theological graduate school of our doctrinal persuasion. The quality of the school is superb. Somewhere, someone, and God knows, can step in and supply this need.

Join with me in this sincere prayer.

Thetus Tenney
International Coordinator
World Network of Prayer

This has been the life story of most bible colleges ... we're seeking accreditation ... and POOF .... NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!

Kent College was one step away for years and .......:winkgrin

BoredOutOfMyMind 04-06-2007 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 66764)
I received this in my email today. While I admit I am no expert on Bible Colleges
I am surprised to see so many closing down.

Is this a good thing?

The Urshan Graduate School of Theology is moving nearer to accreditation. This is a very involved process. We have been blessed to have accomplished much in this process in record time.

We are now in need of extra funding to move on forward with this process. As a member of the UGST board, I am requesting sincere prayer for the needed funding to be supplied. We are the only theological graduate school of our doctrinal persuasion. The quality of the school is superb. Somewhere, someone, and God knows, can step in and supply this need.

Join with me in this sincere prayer.

Thetus Tenney
International Coordinator
World Network of Prayer

This was sent via WNOP?

This is a funding request at best!

Michael The Disciple 04-06-2007 11:36 AM

There is no scriptural proof of Bible College. If Pastors are fully trained in truth they are to pass along their knowledge. Thats what preaching-teaching is supposed to be about.

Pastors should not have to send kids or adults off to Bible College. Seems like an admission they are not doing their job.

Ferd 04-06-2007 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 66822)
There is no scriptural proof of Bible College. If Pastors are fully trained in truth they are to pass along their knowledge. Thats what preaching-teaching is supposed to be about.

Pastors should not have to send kids or adults off to Bible College. Seems like an admission they are not doing their job.

good grief.

BoredOutOfMyMind 04-06-2007 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 66822)
There is no scriptural proof of Bible College. If Pastors are fully trained in truth they are to pass along their knowledge. Thats what preaching-teaching is supposed to be about.

Pastors should not have to send kids or adults off to Bible College. Seems like an admission they are not doing their job.

Youth do not leave the church at 18 in college- They then escape for they were lost from 14 onward.

If they don't get it at home enough to be strong enough in BC, then secular college with drinking/drug parties will be the draw.

:grampa

StillStanding 04-06-2007 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 66822)
There is no scriptural proof of Bible College. If Pastors are fully trained in truth they are to pass along their knowledge. Thats what preaching-teaching is supposed to be about.

Pastors should not have to send kids or adults off to Bible College. Seems like an admission they are not doing their job.

I think bible school is wonderful and needed IF one feels a call of God to enter the ministry. Otherwise, it's just a bridal college.

Courses that I wish bible colleges offered along with the traditional bible course are "Leadership Training", "Ministerial Ethics", and "The Business side of Pastoring a Church".

CC1 04-06-2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 66860)
I think bible school is wonderful and needed IF one feels a call of God to enter the ministry. Otherwise, it's just a bridal college.

Courses that I wish bible colleges offered along with the traditional bible course are "Leadership Training", "Ministerial Ethics", and "The Business side of Pastoring a Church".

I think they all do offer those courses. I know that JCM offered the first two. You were two busy being a music major to notice!!!

I don't recall there being any business courses offered though and that would have been good.

Carpenter 04-06-2007 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 66828)
Youth do not leave the church at 18 in college- They then escape for they were lost from 14 onward.

If they don't get it at home enough to be strong enough in BC, then secular college with drinking/drug parties will be the draw.

:grampa

Secular college is not always made up of drinking and drug parties. This admonition is what causes parents in church to thrust their head in the sand and not allow (or discourage) kids to attend them or even go at all. Even WORSE God forbid they attend a Christian university like Masters, Asuza Pacific, Oral Roberts, et al. The future of the church ends up being an uneducated lot...which is good to some people I suspect.

Looking back, I wish now I had attended a Christian college like the ones I mentioned above. I was going down the road to get a baseball scholarship from Oral Roberts and other of those demonic secular colleges but that was nixed for exactly the perception you provided above.

Too bad, folks said all you go to college for was to get on drugs because somewhere someone had a junkie cousin who was a good kid before they left for the U.

Sheltiedad 04-06-2007 01:01 PM

Based on the name, "Graduate School", is this college for those pursuing Masters or Doctorate degrees, implying that they already have a bachelor's degree somewhere? Just curious...

By the way, hey Carp, I miss talking to you!

Ferd 04-06-2007 01:02 PM

Sheltiedad~! whaddup?

StillStanding 04-06-2007 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 66875)
I think they all do offer those courses. I know that JCM offered the first two. You were two busy being a music major to notice!!!

I don't recall there being any business courses offered though and that would have been good.

What kind of leadership course did they offer? They should have require the course for music majors too! :)

Sheltiedad 04-06-2007 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 66938)
Sheltiedad~! whaddup?

Hola... I am out of the country and it is 3am here so I am bored. lol.

BoredOutOfMyMind 04-06-2007 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 66954)
Hola... I am out of the country and it is 3am here so I am bored. lol.

Deported again?!?

:neener

Sheltiedad 04-06-2007 01:25 PM

You wish. :) I'm sure you can tell where I am. lol.

Nahum 04-06-2007 02:27 PM

I agree with Daniel. I graduated from Gateway years ago and they were saying they were one step away from accredidation. They are still singing the same song.

Hoovie 04-06-2007 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 66934)
Based on the name, "Graduate School", is this college for those pursuing Masters or Doctorate degrees, implying that they already have a bachelor's degree somewhere? Just curious...

By the way, hey Carp, I miss talking to you!



YUP.

Sheltiedad 04-06-2007 05:55 PM

They might have an accredidation dilemma then... because for them to accept credits into their master's programs, the credits they accept from other schools would need to be recognized as well, if I understand the system correctly. This would limit the ability of non-accredited bible school graduates to get a degree there, unless they also had enough credits from an accredicated school to apply towards the degree program.

rrford 04-06-2007 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 67325)
They might have an accredidation dilemma then... because for them to accept credits into their master's programs, the credits they accept from other schools would need to be recognized as well, if I understand the system correctly. This would limit the ability of non-accredited bible school graduates to get a degree there, unless they also had enough credits from an accredicated school to apply towards the degree program.

From my understanding 10% of their total enrollment can come from non-accredited institutions. This allows an opening for those from our non-accredited Bible Colleges.

JN Anderson 04-06-2007 07:46 PM

UGST is distinguished because it is a graduate school, it requires an undergrad degree, e.g. B.A. I pray that this accreditation is achieved! It has the possibility of advancing the Oneness movement (not necessarily the UPCI) to a new dimension of recognition.

Neck 04-06-2007 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 66764)
I received this in my email today. While I admit I am no expert on Bible Colleges
I am surprised to see so many closing down.

Is this a good thing?

The Urshan Graduate School of Theology is moving nearer to accreditation. This is a very involved process. We have been blessed to have accomplished much in this process in record time.

We are now in need of extra funding to move on forward with this process. As a member of the UGST board, I am requesting sincere prayer for the needed funding to be supplied. We are the only theological graduate school of our doctrinal persuasion. The quality of the school is superb. Somewhere, someone, and God knows, can step in and supply this need.

Join with me in this sincere prayer.

Thetus Tenney
International Coordinator
World Network of Prayer

Why don't they have a Telethon and raise money?

rrford 04-06-2007 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 67444)
Why don't they have a Telethon and raise money?

They have to wait until Steve Munsey has an open date. :slaphappy



"Go to your phones! Go now!"

lisafitzh2o 04-07-2007 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 67325)
They might have an accredidation dilemma then... because for them to accept credits into their master's programs, the credits they accept from other schools would need to be recognized as well, if I understand the system correctly. This would limit the ability of non-accredited bible school graduates to get a degree there, unless they also had enough credits from an accredicated school to apply towards the degree program.

This is true. And the accredidation process is eternal. I worked in public school for seven years and was on various committees dealing with accredidation. Two years ago I became principal of our church school, and began trying to get accredidation. The requirements are unbelievable, from details about every staff member down to minute details like your school library: you have to check the copyright dates on the books because you are only allowed a certain percentage of books more than 20 years old, a certain percentage which are reference books, etc.

I can't imagine what the process is like for a college...if it is aything like our school, it may take upwards of five years!

StillStanding 04-07-2007 07:29 AM

Freewill Baptist Bible College, which is an accredited college, almost lost their accredidation because their musical instruments were too old and out of shape! They had to buy ten new pianos to save their accredidation!

It's not only very stringent to get it, it's stringent to KEEP it!

CC1 04-07-2007 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 67586)
Freewill Baptist Bible College, which is an accredited college, almost lost their accredidation because their musical instruments were too old and out of shape! They had to buy ten new pianos to save their accredidation!

It's not only very stringent to get it, it's stringent to KEEP it!

Lipscomb University don't have no stinkin pianos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

StillStanding 04-07-2007 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 67592)
Lipscomb University don't have no stinkin pianos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually...they do! They have an active music department, and just bought a 9' concert Steinway from us! :)

They're not against music for personal or professional use. They just don't want it in the church worship service!

CC1 04-07-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 67620)
Actually...they do! They have an active music department, and just bought a 9' concert Steinway from us! :)

They're not against music for personal or professional use. They just don't want it in the church worship service!

Yeah. I thought it was funny when I took the tour there that they had a nice music department yet when you go to their chapel services they, of course, don't use any instruments.


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