2 Relevant??: Org churches to tackle Sex on Sunday
 

JG's church in San Fran, http://www.sflighthouse.com

and MJ's in Newark, DE http://www.yourjourney.tv/index2.php

Will begin a series, this coming month, entitled: Sex on Sundays


JG's website reads:


Is this too relevant? Appropriate for a Sunday?

What say ye?

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I would not do that. lol Not saying it is wrong.

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Maybe ok in an adults only class. No children. Not for the whole congregation.

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Maybe with the above on a weeknight bible study.

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That figures for San Francisco. When they leave the fold anything may happen and it's not usually good.

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If an old pastor of ours would have done this series of lessons it would have been entitled, "Sex: God's plan for Procreation and Church growth! (except on Sundays when it is not allowed)".

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So, we'll take that as a vote against? ;)

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If I attended there - I'd probably have to visit another church during Feb.

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Excellent marketing strategy! Go for it Lighthouse.

For those that may be concerned, I don't think we can cast much judgment until we see the lesson outline. I am trusting that my Holy Ghost filled peers have the wisdom to deal with mixed audiences.
By the way, does Tim from Lighthouse post on here? If so, please PM me...

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There's an old joke about that.

A pastor was planning on speaking about water skiing in his Sunday morning sermon. His wife did not go that morning. The pastor decided instead to speak on sex, but, of course his wife did not realize he had changed his topic.

The following day, one of the sistas called her and told her in glowing terms what a great sermon her husband had preached the day before.

The wife was kinda surprised and said,
"Well he really doesn't know much about the subject.
Most of what he knows has come from things he's read about it
or from watching others.
He's actually only tried it once,
and then he fell off before he really got going."

She wondered why the sista on the other end of the line gasped and then got real quiet.

Admin, you can delete this if you think it's inappropriate.

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It strikes me as kind of gimmicky. Maybe in different venues it plays differently. It's definitely an important topic but I'd feel kind of embarrassed by the signage.

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I'd feel more comfortable if it were given in like a seminar with only adults attending by choice. But that's just me. I do think the church has to address this stuff though. I support the idea of frank discussion in the church.

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Is that wine or grape juice you got there in your new avatar?

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It's the democrat koolaid. :thumbsup

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If it worked for Ed Young I guess it could draw interest for them???

Didn't Ed just do this a month or so ago???

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Great for adults only. But I'll be teaching my children about sex as I deem them mature enough. They'd have to have something separate for anyone under 18 or I wouldn't be comfortable with it.

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Remember the city where he is ministering. San Francisco shock! So you need something to get people's attention.

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I am one of those rare people who is deeply thankful I didn't hear anything from my folks -only from other people.

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Me too Randy.

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For once I agree with you!:thumbsup Churches have taught their young people all about Christian living but not how to act around the opposite sex. When I was growing up we couldn't skate, watch movies, go to amusement parks but no one ever told us we couldn't ride around in cars and what we couldn't do if we did. But somehow I knew and everything turned out OK but for too many it didn't.

We had a youth pastor at the church I attended a few years ago that counseled young people before their first date, telling them what they could do and what they couldn't do. Then after the date he called them in and asked them how the date went. Most of his young people turned out as workers for God. Not one of his young people got into trouble.The youth pastor is now a pastor in Brazil.

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i see nothing wrong with teaching Biblical sexuality in church. as for the children...as a teacher i see that children are being taught or at least hearing about sex at very early ages. why not let them know what the Bible has to say about it....they are already hearing the other side.

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What do you mean by "the other side"? Are children being taught to fornicate in schools?

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not sure about every school district. in ours...students are taught that sex is a perfectly normal part of life....and that sex and sexual experiences are ok for them...just so they are "'safe". this teaching begins as early as grades 4 and 5.

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I see nothing wrong with the subject....done in an appropriate setting. Saying that, I think it is inappropriate for Sunday service. Where in this will the people here Jesus and his saving grace?

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Is Ed Young relevant too?

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edjen, we have been teaching our children a wholesome view of sexuality since they were young--in age appropriate snippets. No questions go unanswered.

However, if I'm going to allow ANY other entity or person to inform my children about sexuality, whether from a biblical perspective or not, I would want to see the entire curriculum first, and make a parental decision in regard to whether they're old enough to handle the material. It would obviously depend on content and context. Without seeing the material first, I would just give an unequivocal "No."

For the most part, teachings on sex that I have heard include details on how to satisfy your partner, positions, etc. Things that only married people need to participate in. (IMO) My children need to have a good understanding of how the human body was created, how it works, how sex works, how sexuality affects us, and when having sex is appropriate.

Beyond that, sexual exploration and even some of the "learning", should take place between a man and his wife.

As for kids learning from the "other side"--I already had to set Hannah straight because one of her cousins gave her erroneous, detailed information. SO detailed that I had to go into more detail than I wanted to correct it. But I did. (She was 9/10 at the time--I can't remember for sure) However, she was NOT ready for the info I had to impart, and I was highly irritated that I had to pass it along.

Learning the basic science is one thing. But learning relational principles, morals and more adult details about the sexual experience is another.

Bottom line: It isn't the school's job to teach children about sex, and it's not the church's job either. That's a job for parents.

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NO !! NO !! NO !!

You can not make this much sense and still be practical !! :thumbsup

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Too funny Sam!!!!!

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The fact that we are even asking if sex is ok to teach just demonstrates how bad of shape the church is in. I do agree that it is kind of gimmicky especially since it seems like everyone is doing it lately.

The problems that I see are that not only do almost none of the kids that I know have any clue about respect for the opposite sex, God's plan for sex, or even understand the dangers of sex, their parents don't seem to have a clue about what their kids are doing either.

Now, you can teach this to an adult group but the teenagers are probably going to feel very uncomfortable being in the same room with their parents while this subject is being discussed. Still, folks are bombarded by sex every day with little support from the church or Godly instruction.

However, I have listened to a few sermons by JG and I don't expect him to get out of the box to much. He will probably stick to scripture and very generic illustrations during this series.

Don't you guys remember Dr. Dobson going that series way back. My parents made me watch that stuff and I was scared to death. I mean AIDS was right there ready to jump on you if you looked at the opposite sex to long.

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Teaching about proper views of sex to an adult crowd is needful sometimes. Advertising it in a sensational way is a little much, I think.

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:ursofunnyI'll never forget what my Grandfather said one night, while preaching. Now keep in mind, he served on the Mississippi District Board for many years. He said, There is 2 things the church never wants to talk about in Church. Money and Sex. And whether you want to admit it or not,It takes them both to survive! You know I'm telling the truth. My Grandmother just grinned.

But, he would have taught on this subject on Wed. Night.

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It is okay to teach adult classes on sex, and depending on the content, people should only attend if they're comfortable with the subject matter. However, Sunday mornings are traditionally a time for visitors and children to be present, so I'm not sure it's the most appropriate venue.

IMO, part of the problem with sexual relationships today is the lack of sacredness surrounding the act. When we drag it all out into the open, it takes away some of the sanctity from the married bed. JMO. I am NOT opposed to teaching about relationships from a godly perspective, which is why I would like to know ahead of time what the content is, but some things should only be addressed to adults, and SOME topics would be inappropriate in a setting with both men and women present.

I'm no prude, DG, but just because the world has made sex casual doesn't mean the church should.

As for Dr. Dobson...there was some book he wrote that included all the details of sex in text (no pictures), and that was the extent of my sex ed about a week before I was married. Jeff and I made a conscious decision to make sure our children were better educated than we were.

Just generally speaking, I agree with Randy Wayne: There are some people I wouldn't WANT talking to my children about sex--even if they had their Bible in hand. I remember VIVIDLY an incident with a friend of mine and her mother. We were out walking with her Mom, (we were both 15 or 16ish), and sex was brought up. I don't remember how the topic was initiated, but I do remember the Mom's response. She said to us, "Sex is something you tolerate. Only wh***s enjoy it." And that was the end of the discussion. :nah

Discussing the different aspects of a married relationship generically is fine with me, even with children present. However, if it goes into details, then it should be adults only. I'm sticking to my guns on that one. :)

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No problems here. I really don't know how effective it could be if it caused a huge uproar. I think I would rather it be in a smaller group setting because then you could actually cover the tough issues that are needed.

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why?

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I take it that you are opposed to S--?

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LOL - - nope not at all.

Being single for over five years now probably not a good time to take notes.

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:lol:

But, then you knew that I was looking for some way to beat up on you, didn't you?

I love making the burdens of life unbearable sometimes.... Hahaha :ursofunny

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Yes, I knew you were picking on me! :smack

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Are you hearing what you want to hear? :coffee2

Do you agree that there are some topics that are only appropriate for adults? And some topics that shouldn't be discussed in a mixed setting?

I wouldn't want to discuss details about sex in a room with any men, other than my husband. Nor do I want a man to be the one talking to me about sex. Now, an older woman? One who has been successful in marriage? That's fine.

My pastor? Nope. Don't want to hear what he has to say about sex. Sorry. (Other than what's already written in plain black and white print in scripture.)

Discussing it from a generic, biblical perspective is fine. Getting into details, personal stories or anecdotes, etc.--I'm not interested in that. That's why I said I would like to know ahead of time what is going to be discussed. Then I would decide whether or not to attend, and whether or not to hire a babysitter.