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Hoovie 02-08-2009 10:29 PM

Contentment
 
"...for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content"

I think I am learning what it means... Not that I have ever had great trials in my life - I have not, yet I, like many have wished things were different in many ways. For me, it has been various things through the years, and I surmise I am not different than most.

Church, education, occupation, location, family, status, income level... It seems if one is conquered there is always something else. Putting Christ in His rightful place is the simple answer to be sure, yet many of us Christians have struggled with this.

I think I am starting to get a newer and better perspective (Thank You, Lord!) - not to relinquish the pursuit, but to hold fast to a certain level of contentment in the pursuit.

About ten years ago I was privileged to travel to London and work with some sweeps. It was a fantastic experience working in the old homes and visiting with the owners. It did not take me long to get a healthy dose of envy from my host Sweep for the day. He had a Mercedes Benz in the drive and had a very nice home. I wished I was in his shoes. He was a second generation chimney sweep and had done well.

He was kind and accommodating, but like myself, also plagued with discontentment. The weather was a bit dreary and the rain would come and go as it does in that part of the world. It did not take me long to find out he really would rather be living in Spain where his brother lived - No rain there and the "most beautiful place on Earth"!

It never really ends does it? God help us all to be content!

Is the grass REALLY GREENER "over there"?

Cindy 02-08-2009 10:35 PM

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Paul has been on my mind a lot lately. How many things he went through, just trying to spread the news of the Gospel. Hungry, thirsty, in prison or out, he somehow knew what mattered the most.
The only way we can be content I believe is through Jesus Christ.

SOUNWORTHY 02-08-2009 10:54 PM

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Wish I were that content.

JaneEyre 02-08-2009 11:13 PM

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Here are a few happy thoughts on contentment:

My crown is in my heart, not on my head, Nor decked with diamonds and Indian stones, Nor to be seen: My crown is called content: A crown it is, that seldom kings enjoy. - Shakespeare.. (So spoken by Henry VI)

Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not. Remember that what you now have was once among the things that you only hoped for.

-Epicurus

Here are some links to "contentment quotes"...

http://thinkexist.com/quotations/contentment/

http://thinkexist.com/quotes/with/keyword/contentment/

http://www.worldofquotes.com/topic/C...ent/index.html

http://www.achieving-life-abundance....nt-quotes.html

seguidordejesus 02-08-2009 11:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 701938)
- not to relinquish the pursuit, but to hold fast to a certain level of contentment in the pursuit.

this is the key, and one that I struggle with.

Jermyn Davidson 02-09-2009 12:15 AM

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Some times not being content is a good thing, imo.

It's in these moments that we have to question the sources behind the discontentment, right?

Somethings you really can't change the quicker you realize it, the better you'll be.

Somethings you could change, but you have to weigh the costs.

Somethings you should simply change, correct, etc.

Whaddya think?

iceniez 02-09-2009 05:30 AM

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Godliness with contentment is great gain for sure. I am trying to get there.The Idea of simplicity or a simple life comes to me when in prayer lately.

rgcraig 02-09-2009 07:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 701967)
Some times not being content is a good thing, imo.

It's in these moments that we have to question the sources behind the discontentment, right?

Somethings you really can't change the quicker you realize it, the better you'll be.

Somethings you could change, but you have to weigh the costs.

Somethings you should simply change, correct, etc.

Whaddya think?

Maybe a better way to put it would be it's best not to be complacent.

I believe we need to strive to be content.

StillStanding 02-09-2009 07:33 AM

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I believe that a certain balance has to be obtained in contentment. It can be our best friend or worst enemy!

The difference is in the level of assertiveness applied. One can be so content that they never seek change to better their life for themselves or their family. For instance, one can be content with a high school education and never seek higher learning which would give them better job security and income for their future.

On the other hand, their are folks that are driven to always be looking for something better, not taking the time to reflect and be thankful for what they currently have.

ILG 02-09-2009 07:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 701938)
"...for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content"

I think I am learning what it means... Not that I have ever had great trials in my life - I have not, yet I, like many have wished things were different in many ways. For me, it has been various things through the years, and I surmise I am not different than most.

Church, education, occupation, location, family, status, income level... It seems if one is conquered there is always something else. Putting Christ in His rightful place is the simple answer to be sure, yet many of us Christians have struggled with this.

I think I am starting to get a newer and better perspective (Thank You, Lord!) - not to relinquish the pursuit, but to hold fast to a certain level of contentment in the pursuit.

About ten years ago I was privileged to travel to London and work with some sweeps. It was a fantastic experience working in the old homes and visiting with the owners. It did not take me long to get a healthy dose of envy from my host Sweep for the day. He had a Mercedes Benz in the drive and had a very nice home. I wished I was in his shoes. He was a second generation chimney sweep and had done well.

He was kind and accommodating, but like myself, also plagued with discontentment. The weather was a bit dreary and the rain would come and go as it does in that part of the world. It did not take me long to find out he really would rather be living in Spain where his brother lived - No rain there and the "most beautiful place on Earth"!

It never really ends does it? God help us all to be content!

Is the grass REALLY GREENER "over there"?

Thanks for writing this, Steve. I have struggled with contentment especially since leaving the UPC. I used to have my life mapped out for me....I was happy doing what I was doing for the most part. Now, I find myself struggling, yet again, to fit into a culture I don't understand. Some of it is familiar, but much of it is not. (Used to live in a drinking culture, then got into a UPC culture, now trying to fit into the larger culture).

Hoovie 02-09-2009 07:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 702007)
I believe that a certain balance has to be obtained in contentment. It can be our best friend or worst enemy!

The difference is in the level of assertiveness applied. One can be so content that they never seek change to better their life for themselves or their family. For instance, one can be content with a high school education and never seek higher learning which would give them better job security and income for their future.

On the other hand, their are folks that are driven to always be looking for something better, not taking the time to reflect and be thankful for what they currently have.

Yes indeed. I am certainly not saying give it all up. But find a level of contentment while in the pursuit of a better life. I like your signature ... "If we don't change our direction we're likely to end up where we're headed."

I do think the expectations of how it will be when we "arrive" are often distorted reality, and we often "get there" just in time to see someone raised the bar and moved the cheese.:foottap

ILG 02-09-2009 08:06 AM

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Probably my biggest discontent has been realizing that education is worthwhile. I wish I would have raised my kids to be more education minded and less church minded. I hadn't realized how important an education has become until we left the UPC. When I got into the UPC, that was back when you could actually make a living climbing the ladder. I know a person can do that now too, but it is much harder...jobs are becoming more and more scarce without a degree. My daughter has always been a good student....my son, that is another matter. I have to keep reminding myself that there is always a plan B. But it makes me feel like a failure and I get very discontented with the fact that I did not see things sooner. It's also hard to let go and say "Kids make their own choices". They do....to some degree. But, part of it is how they were raised.

commonsense 02-09-2009 09:01 AM

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Good thoughts on contentment.

The serenity prayer comes to mind:
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

It's not always easy > and the grass does look greener....

ILG 02-09-2009 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 702040)
Good thoughts on contentment.

The serenity prayer comes to mind:
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

It's not always easy > and the grass does look greener....

That's one of my favorite prayers. It is really quite brilliant...it really covers all the bases. :thumbsup

Cindy 02-09-2009 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 701967)
Some times not being content is a good thing, imo.

It's in these moments that we have to question the sources behind the discontentment, right?

Somethings you really can't change the quicker you realize it, the better you'll be.

Somethings you could change, but you have to weigh the costs.

Somethings you should simply change, correct, etc.

Whaddya think?

You are right Mike, we learn a lot in the struggles we go through. As long as we don't give in to the struggle, and let our minds fill with despair. I think that's what the Apostle Paul learned. He was not always living a joyful life, but learned that whatever he was going through to be settled in his mind.

ILG 02-09-2009 09:47 AM

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Got this in my email inbox. Looks like it fits this thread.


Quote:

'To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.'
When God takes something from your grasp, He's not punishing you, but merely opening your hands to receive something better. Concentrate on this
sentence... 'The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will
not protect you.' Something good will happen to you today; something that
you have been waiting to hear.

Cindy 02-09-2009 09:48 AM

Re: Contentment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 702017)
Probably my biggest discontent has been realizing that education is worthwhile. I wish I would have raised my kids to be more education minded and less church minded. I hadn't realized how important an education has become until we left the UPC. When I got into the UPC, that was back when you could actually make a living climbing the ladder. I know a person can do that now too, but it is much harder...jobs are becoming more and more scarce without a degree. My daughter has always been a good student....my son, that is another matter. I have to keep reminding myself that there is always a plan B. But it makes me feel like a failure and I get very discontented with the fact that I did not see things sooner. It's also hard to let go and say "Kids make their own choices". They do....to some degree. But, part of it is how they were raised.

Maybe more Jesus minded than church minded. I know it's probably hard to separate the two. And then there are people that waste great educations. So you do the best you can with what you know at the time. Then contentment may be able to be achieved.

ILG 02-09-2009 09:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 702057)
Maybe more Jesus minded than church minded. I know it's probably hard to separate the two. And then there are people that waste great educations. So you do the best you can with what you know at the time. Then contentment may be able to be achieved.

I am all for being God-minded, but the church teaches committment to church sometimes even more than to God.

I think there is more than one way to be successful and sometimes we just have to remember that. The world points one way, the church another. But godliness with contentment is great gain. Maybe true success is being content. Maybe we need to use the right measuring stick.

Yesterday, I got stuck with my husband's pick-up truck. I am used to having an all wheel drive and the truck was in 2 wheel drive. I was trying to move the truck and spinning my wheels. A guy came up and said I needed to lock the hubs and put it into 4 wheel drive. He did a couple things and I drove right out.

I think life is like that sometimes. You spin your wheels not knowing the power to drive right out is right under your nose. It's in you. You just need a little shift and you can drive right out. :thumbsup

Ron 02-09-2009 11:01 AM

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"Contentment in circumstances is good!

However, any man who has desires, may not be satisfied.

Contentment & Satisfaction are 2 very different things I believe.

RevDWW 02-09-2009 12:08 PM

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1 Timothy 6(KJV) 6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.


Wow that's some powerful stuff right there in those 5 verses.

Hoovie 02-09-2009 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 702151)
1 Timothy 6(KJV) 6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.


Wow that's some powerful stuff right there in those 5 verses.

Amen - Thank you!

Sister Alvear 02-09-2009 03:49 PM

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lots of good thoughts on this thread.

Hoovie 02-09-2009 06:34 PM

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I like this one.

“Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for.”

Epicurus

RevDWW 02-09-2009 06:36 PM

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From time to time it seems some would rather be contentious then being contented.


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