Need a favor: PLEASE DEFINE WHAT IT MEANS TO BE APOSTOLIC
 

An interesting exchange from another thread ....

Chan wrote:

IAM responded to this quote:

Without getting into how Chan's remarks could even be construed as bashing ....

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME ... WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE APOSTOLIC??? ....

AND WHO DECIDES WHO IS AND WHO ISN'T ????

I would say that for the most part, at least on this forum, "apostolic" refers to those who hold to Ac. 2:38 in varying degrees. It would appear that both "one steppers" and "three steppers" would fit into that category.

So being ... apostolic means how well you hold to ONE VERSE in the Bible???

Not completely. But it does seem to be a place to start for agreement and it also seems to be what unites most of us here.

1. Each individual decides what it means to be Apostolic --it's conformity to EVERYTHING that individual believes.

2. Since the above individual is the standard for what it means to be Apostolic, anyone who does not believe EXACTLY the way that individual believes is obviously not Apostolic.

There is something Martin Luther is alleged to have said about, we got rid of the pope and now every man is a pope unto himself or we have replaced him with a thousand different popes each claiming infallibility and pronouncing an anathema on whomever did not believe the same as he --or something like that.

So am I an APOSTOLIC???

More than all of us!!!!! :D

In this forum I think it means those who would consider themselves Oneness Pentecostal - at least in some form from a T D Jakes to an Epley. LOL!

I tend to agree ....:happydance:happydance:happydance:happydance

You are correct! :tiphat

To you, you are, but not to any of the rest of us.

Just kidding.

Do you believe that Jesus was the Son of God,
that He died on the cross for your sins,
that He was buried,
and rose again the third day?

To me that is the Gospel the Apostles preached and if you believe it you are Apostolic.

How's that for a narrow interpretation?

P.S. I believe that a person can be Apostolic and not even believe that there are present day Apostles

but if I attend a non-denominational church ... does that affect my APOSTOLICNESS????

Aullelujah! I'M IN!

Not to me.

What would Jesus say about this word "Apostolic"???

Dude, I pastor a non-denominational church and am an Admin here.....if I ain't apostolic somebody made a big mistake! :D

Well... he would likely NOT say that it's always been his goal to be "like the Apostles"!:slaphappy

To be Apostolic is................................................ .....................and .................................................. ............. then also.........................................and must not forget............................................ .......... and absolutely..................................!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Webster's take"
An apostolic is one who adheres to the Apostles teaching.

Hahaha!!! :slaphappy

Now that's funny right there...I don't care who ya are!

WHO ME???

That you caught Bro. Epley compromising his message. :toofunny

He's slipping ... it must be the Non-Apostolic influence here at AFF ...:tiphat

To me Apostolic would mean,holding to the doctrines that the Apostles in the early church taught.But can also mean walking in Apostolic power and anointing.In short following the pratice and doctrine of the primitive or early church.

Whether he likes it or not, Epley hit it right on the head... It is a subjective term. There is no scriptural definition of apostolic. The closest you get in scripture is the phrase "The Apostles Doctrine". And we all know it ain't apostolic doctrine until you start preaching against televisions and instituting a dress code.

Maybe we need to be a little less "apostolic" and a lot more like Jesus. That will take care of any labelling.

Elder: this is one of the clearest definitions of what it is to be apostloic that I have read here.

Non-denominational church defined by Professor Epley

"They do not know what they believe and do not care what you believe just keep those cards and letters coming.":aaa :tiphat :happydance :neener

Speaking of being Apostolic, Brother Chester Wright spoke at my church years ago and said that he loves to tell people that he is Apostolic. The reason being is that most people don't know what it means and he gets to explain the Apostles Doctrine to them. I think that's a great idea.

You were speaking for yourself in that statement, right MOW??

Personally I will let each judge themselves, my statements to Chance were simply to say, if you do not love the Apostolic message and want to tear it down, then this is not the place for you. If you love it, WELCOME.

I like this definition.

Yes, that would seem to be a good working definition, as used here. But, don't pentecostal trinitarians even (claim to) hold to Acts 2:38? I mean, you'll never hear them say it's wrong, or shouldn't be in the Bible, will you? They just have a different interpretation of it. Hey, come to think of it, do pentecostal trinitartians also claim to be "apostolic"?

Same question regarding trinitarians. Don't they also claim to follow the apostles' doctrines?

No ... He was speaking fact ....

I'M MORE APOSTOLIC THAN YOU'LL EVER BE ... IAM!!!!!!!!!!

That's exactly what I was referring to! :happydance

I will keep on drilling it ... until it HITS HOME.

When I think of people whose post's reflect true doctrine, as taught by the apostles in the early church, these people come to mind.

Sherri
MOW
Daniel Alicea
Trimunphant1
Newman
Sam
CCI
Pianoman

I'm sure I'm missing a few here. These reflect true apostolic doctrine as set forth in the epistles, gospels and the book of Acts.

They may not reflect perfectly what some call apostolic doctrine that has been preached the last 50 years or so, also recorded in your articles of faith in some manuals.

I'd rather be biblically correct than correct according to an idealogy anyday.


I'll say with Daniel Alicea. I'M MORE APOSTOLIC THAN YOU ARE.

you cannot be a commited trinitarian and be Apostolic. period.

Being Apostolic means driving around for hours at the beach, looking for a deserted one that you can swim at without "mixed-bathing"

I know, I know, this never happened, just like everything else in my life growing up Apostolic.