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deacon blues 02-28-2009 09:31 AM

No Protection 4 MDs & RNs Who Refuse Abortions?
 
President Obama is seeking to rescind a Bush Administration rule that strengthened job protections for doctors and nurses who refuse for moral reasons to perform abortions.

I am sorry Obama fans, I know you think I am just being partisan, but these kinds of facts speak for themselves. I am prayng for our president fequently, but its stands like these that cause this American grave concerns. It does not engender HOPE when a person cannot exercise their religious convictions without fear of losing their job. It does not tell me this is CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN. I don't see how this is a DIFFERENT KIND OF WASHINGTON when these same old liberal strong arm tactics to cram their morality, or lack thereof, down everyone's throat is employed.

I hope the president gets some good advice from a God-fearing advisor and he has a change of heart on this one.

Cindy 02-28-2009 09:38 AM

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So if a doctor or nurse refuses to perform abortions they can be fired by whom? And what does the President have to do with it? Is it because of federal funds?

SOUNWORTHY 02-28-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 714415)
President Obama is seeking to rescind a Bush Administration rule that strengthened job protections for doctors and nurses who refuse for moral reasons to perform abortions.

I am sorry Obama fans, I know you think I am just being partisan, but these kinds of facts speak for themselves. I am prayng for our president fequently, but its stands like these that cause this American grave concerns. It does not engender HOPE when a person cannot exercise their religious convictions without fear of losing their job. It does not tell me this is CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN. I don't see how this is a DIFFERENT KIND OF WASHINGTON when these same old liberal strong arm tactics to cram their morality, or lack thereof, down everyone's throat is employed.

I hope the president gets some good advice from a God-fearing advisor and he has a change of heart on this one.

How do we pray fro this guy? I'm serious. I can't pray that God will bless and protect him, a man who has signed a death notice for countless infants and welcomes gays with open arms among a lot of other things he is guilty of.

RandyWayne 02-28-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 714483)
How do we pray fro this guy? I'm serious. I can't pray that God will bless and protect him, a man who has signed a death notice for countless infants and welcomes gays with open arms among a lot of other things he is guilty of.

Ahhhh, but he is for sticking it to the evil rich who OWE their ill gotten gains to those who who have less! My local Teamsters SAY SO!

Greed is the overriding factor here.

coadie 03-02-2009 07:03 AM

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Obama is insistent on RN's and MD's doing referrals if they will not participate in abortion.
The next part is reimbursement. If Catholic and other non profits do not perform abortion, he wants executive authority to cut off Federal fuinding.
This violates contract law. Catholics are talking of closing hospitals. The the state will either have to buy them or build new hospitals at the cost of trillions because many of these are old and on land that was cheap 80 years ago.

Aquila 03-02-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 714483)
How do we pray fro this guy? I'm serious. I can't pray that God will bless and protect him, a man who has signed a death notice for countless infants and welcomes gays with open arms among a lot of other things he is guilty of.

Paul commanded first century Christians to pray for Caesar. We're such wimps.

Obama hasn't mandated any abortions. Just because abortion's legal it doesn't mean anyone has to go get one. The onus is on the murderous women who choose to abort. They will roast in a devil's Hell.

Does anyone shop Walmart? They are one of the largest corporations that do business with China. China MANDATES abortion. If you buy from Walmart you're helping a company that is a major contributor to the Chinese economy. Oh...but if you save $1.99, I guess it's worth it, right?

Esther 03-03-2009 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 715444)
Paul commanded first century Christians to pray for Caesar. We're such wimps.

Obama hasn't mandated any abortions. Just because abortion's legal it doesn't mean anyone has to go get one. The onus is on the murderous women who choose to abort. They will roast in a devil's Hell.

Does anyone shop Walmart? They are one of the largest corporations that do business with China. China MANDATES abortion. If you buy from Walmart you're helping a company that is a major contributor to the Chinese economy. Oh...but if you save $1.99, I guess it's worth it, right?

Not so quick to excuse the doctor, he/she would be just as guilty!

Esther 03-03-2009 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 714483)
How do we pray fro this guy? I'm serious. I can't pray that God will bless and protect him, a man who has signed a death notice for countless infants and welcomes gays with open arms among a lot of other things he is guilty of.

You pray that God would give him wisdom and strength to make the right decisons for our country, for starters. I don't think you have to ask God to bless him. But then again, He said bless them that despitefully use you. (paraphased)

SOUNWORTHY 03-03-2009 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 715444)
Paul commanded first century Christians to pray for Caesar. We're such wimps.

Obama hasn't mandated any abortions. Just because abortion's legal it doesn't mean anyone has to go get one. The onus is on the murderous women who choose to abort. They will roast in a devil's Hell.

Does anyone shop Walmart? They are one of the largest corporations that do business with China. China MANDATES abortion. If you buy from Walmart you're helping a company that is a major contributor to the Chinese economy. Oh...but if you save $1.99, I guess it's worth it, right?

How's the tea? The Dr's and Nurses as well as Obama and those who voted for him share the responsibility. To him that knoweth to do right and doeth it not it is a sin. An employer can be sued for something one of his employees did even though the employer was completely innocent and in the dark. Been there done that.

If I know my Pit Bull is a killer and I turn him loose in a playground and he kills a few children they will find me guilty. Those who voted for Obama just turned a Pit Bull loose in the nursery.

coadie 03-03-2009 08:42 AM

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So when we read the last verse of romans 1, it looks those that voted for Obama are guilty of abortion.

coadie 03-03-2009 08:48 AM

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(CNSNews.com) – Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who is also an OB/GYN, told CNSNews.com on Friday that many medical practitioners, including himself, will go to prison before agreeing to engage in medical practices they morally oppose, such as abortion.

And obama wants universal healthcare. How will he provide coverage for all if all the tested believers are in jail?

SOUNWORTHY 03-03-2009 09:24 AM

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Romans 1 pretty well describes the times we are living in now.

coadie 03-03-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 715723)
Romans 1 pretty well describes the times we are living in now.

It is sad. Given over to reprobate minds.

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

This includes the Darwinists and evolutionists. The ones that have supreeme hangups in giving God the glory for all Creation.

SOUNWORTHY 03-03-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 715788)
It is sad. Given over to reprobate minds.

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

This includes the Darwinists and evolutionists. The ones that have supreeme hangups in giving God the glory for all Creation.

Thinking themselves wise they became fools.


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