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Grady in his latest email discusses Greasy Grace, Todd Bentley is featured.

You can see the whole thing here. Good for Grady!

http://charismamag.com/index.php/fir...n=FIMB+3-11-09

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I get very concerned when I see what is happening in our country. Then I take a look at what is happening in churches, and I wonder...what is our recourse? If "Christianity" continues to go in the direction it seems to be going in, what hope does the country have? I just think that it is time for the church to really act and stand up.

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Excellent article. Grady has hit the nail on the head. Everybody needs to click on that link and read the article.

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The guy was a mess

This go arou8nd he may not have the novelty or curiosity.

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Interesting.
I wonder what the Todd Bentley fans on AFF have to say about this.


For those curious about the lucky lady... more info, and a picture of her, is here:
http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpr...essa-revealed/

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Never was a fan, and won't be one if he returns.

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Heavy sigh! Will it never cease? (no smiley)

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Question: So what did the "lucky lady" get?


Answer: a man who cheats on his wife.

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I was never a fan - nor a huge critic really, but now, IMHO it would take a fool to follow him.

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I guess if David could get up and go on and be used and blessed of God after adultery and murder there may be hope for Todd Bentley. I wonder how long David was "set down" and "restored" before he began again to write Psalms, to worship God, and to rule as king. And, we didn't remove his writings from our Bibles after his fall.

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Yep!!!!! My Mama always said--if a man will leave his wife for you, he'll leave you for another wife.

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Sam, David was King of Israel, but he wasn't a prophet or a priest. ANYONE can repent and once again become a worshiper and servant of God.

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Yup. It is a mockery of God's moral law when these preachers have major moral failures and everybody wants to act like nothing has happened and they should keep right on ministering and "leading" as they did before.

I have no doubt they can be restored and make it to heaven. I would gladly fellowship with one as a fellow saint. However there is a price to pay, as scripture shows was true for David after his sins, and these guys don't want to pay any price.

They want the nice new young wife for the future and the sin of adultery ignored or forgiven after a perfunctory repentence and apology.

You can follow these yoyo's if you want to but I am looking for leadership better than that for me to follow as they follow Christ. He can walk beside me as we both follow Christ but I will be doggone if he is still fit to be a leader.

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If what was said in the one article is true and the relationship existed before the Florida "revival" ever began, and he was involved while ministering, that is something that absolutely has to be taken into consideration.

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Outstanding article by Mr. Grady.

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I'm completely out of the loop. I've never even heard of him.

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I agree. And while his statements seem to express contrition, I have to scratch my head at this statement

Todd and Jessa agree that their relationship was "wrong and premature" and that it "should not have happened the way it did";

Uh...you mean it should have happened a different way? Or maybe not at all. Yet they got married anyways

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BTW David had his kingdom torn apart and he was trying to be murdered by his son....and clearly God allowed it

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I think a leader can be restored when the fame of their repentance exceeds the fame of their fall. :D

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That is sort of tough is it not? The key to repentance is the antithesis of fame - humility.

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I guess I'm hard hearted, because I would find his repentance and restoration a lot more believable if he had permanently ended the relationship with his young hussy. :foottap

I'm well aware that I sounded like an old fogey just then, and I don't care.

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Yep. I am sort of an Epleyite on this one.

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I could be wrong, sounds like this has pushed hot button, something you have seen close up?

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Sorta like the guy that stole your car.

Then he drives over to your house and asks you to forgive him for stealing your car.

After you forgive him, he gets back into your car and drives it off.

You never see your car again except when you happen to see him driving it around.

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No more than anyone else I suppose. Haven't you seen plenty of ministerial lives destroyed over stupid stuff like this?

Then with the token, "I'm sorry", they're back in business, ex-wife (or husband) and children left to deal with the consequences? I'm for restoration, but it should be restoration to a relationship with God--not to all the perks of ministry. (Mind you, I know that ministry is not all perks--in fact for the average minister, it's mostly NOT perks!)

It bothers me when people desire a position so much that they're willing to say or do anything to get it back.

:nah

Something's rotten in Denmark!

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Exactly! LOL!!!! Great analogy. :thumbsup

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:ursofunny:ursofunny

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Could it be remotely possible that Todd Bentley was never in a right relationship with God...That he never obeyed the Gospel...that he was and is a deceiver and charlatan???

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I've been thinking the same thing.

Excellent article by the way.

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That is a great story and unfortunately I hear and see variations of it far too often.
Where one brother cheats another out of money/car/wife/other material goods, then asks forgiveness without ANY attempt to make things right, at which point the person who has been cheated is now the bad guy in the eyes of the church for "not forgiving him/her!".

This quote from the article is part of what I am talking about:
Followed a few paragraphs later by:

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Pharisees in the NT blamed the woman. Shameless hussy no doubt.


One fine option is for them to break up. Then gossip can destroy her.

I don't have solutions for this.

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Surprised you don't.

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For every single man or woman in the ministry that falls. There are ten thousand that actually deeply and sincerely are doing the best they can to be faithful to their faith. For every airbus or Boeing wreck there tens and hundreds of thousands of safe flights. Some are rough. These plane wrecks sell news papers. And we pile on by saying they had false or partial doctrine. That is a different topic. I want To give the LORD the glory. sometimes mistakes men make get them on their knees. The LORD will save our enemies folks. No point in having enemies.
It would tickle me if all 3 people and those indirectly hurt get buckets of mercy, bushels of truth and truck loads of restoration and forgiveness.

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Callest thou me a Pharisee? :coffee2

You've been calling women every name in the book for wearing makeup, but you're offended if I refer to an adulteress as a "hussy?"

:toofunny

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I am NOT opposed to restoration and forgiveness--I am wholeheartedly for it. I just don't see how restoring the man to his position will help with that. Being restored to a right relationship with God is not the same as becoming a bishop again.

That is part of the problem--people see positions in the church or in the leadership as something to be sought after, and when they have a failure, instead of trying to fix their own hearts, they're just putting all the pieces back together in their lives!

"Uh-oh...I messed up...I can't be a preacher--I'd better apologize to the church so I can be a preacher again." No, apologize to GOD so you can be a Christian again. So there aren't any barriers. So sin doesn't separate you from Him.

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1Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.

2And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

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It absolutely IS tough to do. David did it.

I agree. I'm not saying in the LEAST that TB has achieved his repentance, if there is any, exceeding the fame of his fall. He very well may NOT be able to accomplish it. I guess it is possible though.....it will take time and that is what many ministers are unwilling to deal with after they have fallen. :D

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Really, coadie, do you think I'm going to argue with scripture? I wouldn't condemn the woman to be stoned. :) I really don't think she's a "shameless hussy" as much as probably a young woman taken in by a man in a position of power--but then I don't know her--maybe she seduced him. :D

They can BOTH get forgiveness--just like the rest of us. That really isn't the point of this thread. Did you bother to read the provided article? No one is saying they can't be or shouldn't be forgiven. :coffee2

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Okay, then I'll say it..."She's a shameless hussy". She obviously knew he was married. She more than likely had a relationship with his wife.
Of course, he is the male version but exponentially worse.

Someone started a thread a while back about a revival of shame...I think that applies here.

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This whole situation makes me sick! TB has no other way to make the income that he had been accustomed to.

I guess we can all sit back and enjoy watching him crash and burn!