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timlan2057 03-15-2009 10:11 AM

Like Renda, I'm Feeling The Pressure Too ...
 
(I think that's what she titled her thread when she said she was going back to school.) :blush

Anyway ...



My 20 year career in the car business has ended.

I left voluntarily. My leaving was not forced nor economy-related, though selling even a quality product like Toyota was getting tougher; making my life change that much more opportune.

I guess I feel fortunate that I'm leaving and not a drug addict, an alcoholic or penniless because of throwing money away on women and carousing. No, not every veteran car salesman meets that end but enough do to make note of.

They were sorry to see me go when I left so I suppose that's another thing to be thankful for.

Nobody goes to college to become a career car salesman. I drifted into the car business 20 years ago to pay off some extra bills and then it became my career. I spent most of it in management.

My hat is off to the man who goes to work every day at a job he doesn't particularly like - many of us do.

I regretted every day of my adult life that I did not go to an accredited university and get a REAL degree. I succeeded in a gregarious, people-oriented profession when I longed to make a living with my true nature and passion - scholarly pursuits. I'd be immensely happy on a deserted island if I had my library with me.

I figured at age 51, after seeing two wonderful children through growing up and onto college that my dreams had done what the playwright said dreams that are deferred do: shrivel up like A Raisin In The Sun.

My eyes were opened when my kids started college as to how much financial aid was out there; especially for a "non-traditional" student like me. But hey, I like to have things planned out - and you just don't change careers to chase what some would call a silly dream. I figured I'd sit at my desk in the dealership every day until I retired and quietly live with my regrets.

But I'd feel the constant tug in my guts and heart of what Andy Dufresne said in "Shawshank Redemption" - get busy living ... or get busy dying. I suppose that's good advice for a 51 year old man.

Starting this summer, I will be a full-time student at Louisiana State University at Alexandria, majoring in History and minoring in Political Science - and I ain't stopping until I get my PhD.

I hope to finish my undergraduate studies in no more than three years by going to school in the summer and then I'll be walking those hills and around those lakes at LSU in Baton Rouge. I'm about to burst at the thought. I'd even be thrilled doing graduate school at Louisiana-Lafayette.

See, I'd always had to have things lined out to a T and planned years ahead. That's not always possible when you're pursuing a dream. Now, that doesn't mean being stupid either. My son Brent is a sophomore at LSUA. He works and brings home a decent check so between us, we can live pretty much like we have been. When he gets his degree in a couple years, I'll live in a dormitory and stack boxes at WalMart if I have to.

I can't describe the feeling at 51 years of age to be chasing a dream at all costs. I feel alive again; like a teenager again with my entire life ahead of me. Yeah, I know I don't have all THAT much time left but it is true - it is not how long you live, but for what you live that counts. Heck, I may decide after I get my bachelor's to go to law school but one way or the other,about seven years from now, I WILL be wearing that hooded academic gown with the belled sleeves and three chevrons that signifies: "Doctor."

I'll need some extracirricular activites to get into graduate school. Nah, I don't think I'll try out for the baseball team, but LSUA has a pretty good debate team that's tussled with LSU and Tulane. I wonder if they need an old coot with a bit of debating experience? Man, I can see myself locking horns in the debate platform with some kid from Harvard; giving as well as I'm getting and maybe a little better.

Yes, I'm realistic enough to know at my age I probably don't have the time to become head of the Military History Department at West Point or an Appeals Court Judge - but don't count me out.

All I know is I feel like Tom Hanks's character in "Saving Private Ryan" when, in the opening scene at Omaha Beach, he and his men were pinned down by a German machine gun nest. They could have just sat there pinned but then Tom Hanks hollered: "Okay, let's get in this war!" And they began the work of clearing out the machine gun nest and opening the draw yard by bloody yard.

I could spend the rest of my life complaining and moaning that I didn't go to an accredited college and die bitter and unfulfilled. I realize there are obstacles ahead and it won't come easy though reading, writing and breathing history has been what I have lived for and what has been my greatest joy.

Regardless, I'm NOT going to sit here the rest of my life behind a desk selling cars wondering what might have been. I'm going to get into this war.

I feel like Red in Shawshank Redemption, probably my single favorite movie character of all time. He said:

"I find I'm so excited I can barely sit still, or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey who's conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend, and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope ..."

I hope I can hold up physically to make it all the way to my PhD ...

I hope I can have a fulfilling career in the time I have left ...

I hope my future career is as exciting and wonderful as it has been in my dreams ...

I hope ...

http://www2.bc.edu/~yanno/Shawshank%20Redemption.jpg

Cindy 03-15-2009 10:34 AM

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Go for it!!!!!!!:thumbsup

rgcraig 03-15-2009 11:01 AM

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Tim,

There is no doubt in my mind that you'll go through with this! It's in your heart and you are a natural at learning and teaching. However, I could see you as a lawyer too, but lands sakes I'm so proud of us! LOL!

I just left my homework to take a break and check out AFF and here's your inspiring thread! We can do this!!

Just think seven years back - - - it flew by!

ILG 03-15-2009 11:37 AM

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Timlan,

I am very excited for you. I have been fiddling around taking a class here and there and do eventually intend to do something....not get a PhD, but go to school full time and get something.

I just watched Shawshank Redemption. Awesome movie. Very inspirational.

With you being single and all, you can have a one track mind to your goal. I'm glad you feel alive again.

ChTatum 03-15-2009 12:14 PM

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Congratulations, sir! I wish you the very best life has to offer in your new endeavor!

My wife has tried for 31 years to get me to go back to school, and so far has been unsuccessful.

Maybe one day.

RevDWW 03-15-2009 12:29 PM

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Quote:

Hope springs eternal in the human breast;
Man never Is, but always To be blest:
The soul, uneasy and confin'd from home,
Rests and expatiates in a life to come.

-Alexander Pope
May you find rest for your weary soul my friend!

Dedicated Mind 03-15-2009 01:08 PM

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Great Job, Timlan. I wish you academic success.

*AQuietPlace* 03-15-2009 01:31 PM

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That is SO awesome!! :thumbsup I love to see people pursuing their dreams. This is great! You'll succeed!

Hoovie 03-15-2009 01:58 PM

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Good luck with this Tim. as I get older, I find it much easier to experience the journey rather than becoming so focused on the destination. I think the same can be said about education.

Enjoy the journey, and love to learn... Good Luck!

Sherri 03-15-2009 02:30 PM

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Tim, I'm SO proud of you for what you're going to do! You would have loved Eddie's sermon this morning - it was all about pursuing your passion. He talked about Caleb taking the mountain, and you're a LONG way from 80! You can do it!!!!:thumbsup

MissBrattified 03-15-2009 02:37 PM

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I think that is fantastic! It's never too late, and I think you can appreciate knowledge and the learning process a lot more when you're older. :thumbsup

My sister went back to school when her oldest son started college, and earned a degree in psychology. I think she was 52 or 53 when she graduated.

ILG 03-15-2009 03:07 PM

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Great insight, Jane. I think it is a struggle for those who have left the pastorate to go out into the "world" and work a secular job. My husband and I have experienced this. It is a great struggle to just accept what is and know you are now not a pastor. You get used to being treated with a certain amount of respect that suddenly disappears with the loss of position. I have repeatedly asked myself what it is in me that is wrong that I miss that so much. Maybe I have a sick need for respect. Or maybe it isn't so wrong, maybe it just is what you get used to.

MissBrattified 03-15-2009 03:21 PM

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Eh? :blink

Esther 03-15-2009 03:36 PM

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Tim I know you will succeed. Making the decision is the first step and you have taken that step. I too had considered going back to school but I really have no desire to go back into the day to day working world. Although I have considered being a journalist, which is one of the things I wanted to do years ago.

Tim you are a natural writer, I can see you writing a bestseller with your way with words.

Good luck!

ILG 03-15-2009 03:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 720473)
Eh? :blink

Huh?

MissBrattified 03-15-2009 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 720480)
Huh?

What was the post to Jane about? LOL!!!! It didn't seem to belong on this thread. :coffee2

ILG 03-15-2009 03:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 720486)
What was the post to Jane about? LOL!!!! It didn't seem to belong on this thread. :coffee2

Apparently Jane deleted her post....

MissBrattified 03-15-2009 03:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 720487)
Apparently Jane deleted her post....

Oh. Hm. Well, that was unfortunate. :D

mizpeh 03-15-2009 04:45 PM

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Timlan, you have the right attitude for the adventure before you. May God bless you and open many doors for you.

Have you checked into their music department for some extracurricular activites?

rgcraig 03-15-2009 04:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 720501)
Timlan, you have the right attitude for the adventure before you. May God bless you and open many doors for you.

Have you checked into their music department for some extracurricular activites?

Or theater - he's played a role or two in the past!

mizpeh 03-15-2009 04:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 720503)
Or theater - he's played a role or two in the past!

What roles?

SuzanneDeAZ 03-15-2009 04:49 PM

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I went back to school two years ago at age 57 to keep my teaching credentials current. It has been over 10 years since I took a class. I choose to go to a Jr. College as it made no difference to the state if I took undergraduate courses or graduate courses to renew my teaching credentials. Since a Jr. College is cheeper and nearer that is where I went. I felt strange at first as the students were so young and I remember when I was young at the Uni I admired the older few women that went back to school. Now I was the "older" woman. One of the courses was just as challenging as when I went to graduate school. I really got deep into the subject areas. It was wonderful. Now I am back into teaching as I am subbing in the public schools. I took a 12 year leave of absence to homeschool my daughter and my sister's grandchildren. After the death of her daughter 3 years ago Oct. I had to make many changes. I am glad I went back to school and reentered into an area I love doing, that is teaching.

So go for your dream!

CC1 03-15-2009 05:39 PM

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Tim,

I have no doubt that your up for the challenge ahead. My mom who left school before high school because of an illness went back and got her GED and then Bachelors Degree after she became a widow. She graduated from college at around age 50.

Since your kids are grown and you are single you are not bound by financial responsbilities that might come between you and this dream so I am glad you are going for it.

Like you I regret not having a real college degree as it has limited my job choices.

pelathais 03-15-2009 05:50 PM

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Go for it Tim. I'm rooting for ya!

Dora 03-15-2009 06:39 PM

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TIM! So excited for you! Good to hear you are pursuing your dream. If anyone can accomplish it, YOU CAN!!! Go! GO! GO!!!

I'm right there with you and Renda. Relatively "young" Scholars going for the DREAM!!! The time will FLY by!

StillStanding 03-15-2009 07:14 PM

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Tim, You will chase that dream and conquer it!

I 'm jealous, because I no longer possess the drive or passion to continue my education. I'm whipped!

You will die a satisfied man having finally pursued your life's dream.

freeatlast 03-15-2009 07:29 PM

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Congrats Tim, form one car salesman to another. I took a little detour in life and sold cars for 15 years.

I quit in 2002 when I was 51.

JaneEyre 03-15-2009 08:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 720487)
Apparently Jane deleted her post....

Sorry....After I made the post, it just didn't seem to fit this thread.

MissBrattified 03-15-2009 08:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneEyre (Post 720589)
Sorry....After I made the post, it just didn't seem to fit this thread.

:D :toofunny

timlan2057 03-15-2009 11:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneEyre (Post 720589)
Sorry....After I made the post, it just didn't seem to fit this thread.

Thanks for the good wishes, guys.

I'm taking the ACT test again on April 4th. I'm sure when I walk in someone is going to ask me if I'm there to see my son or grandson taking the test.

I scored a 27 on the ACT - and about a 29 in English - back in 1975. Those scores are too old and I would have to take remedial math and English.

Now remedial math I'm taking. To get to graduate school I'm going to have to pull close to a 4.0 in undergrad so I can't squeak by with college algebra. So I need the prep this summer to tackle college algebra in the fall.

However, I told my academic advisor NO WAY I'm taking remedial English. I said "Man, I'm a published author! No way I'm sitting in a class with a bunch of illiterates that couldn't score an 18 in English on the ACT."

Well, the only way out is to take the ACT again.

I cringe at what my math score will be.

But ... if I can't come back after 34 years and score at least a 26 or 27 or higher in English on the ACT, I'll eat my hat.

Jane, threads on these boards take a life of their own. Don't worry about what you post.

Heck, I would think anything someone with a screenname like Jane Eyre would post would fit on a thread about going to college.

tamor 03-16-2009 07:51 AM

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Congrats Tim!! I wish you all the best in going back to school. May it be everything you dream and more!!

Rhoni 03-16-2009 08:16 AM

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Tim,
It is never too late and you have such a beautiful mind! So happy you are pursuing your dream.
Blessings, Rhoni

ILG 03-16-2009 09:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timlan2057 (Post 720671)
Thanks for the good wishes, guys.

I'm taking the ACT test again on April 4th. I'm sure when I walk in someone is going to ask me if I'm there to see my son or grandson taking the test.

I scored a 27 on the ACT - and about a 29 in English - back in 1975. Those scores are too old and I would have to take remedial math and English.

Now remedial math I'm taking. To get to graduate school I'm going to have to pull close to a 4.0 in undergrad so I can't squeak by with college algebra. So I need the prep this summer to tackle college algebra in the fall.

However, I told my academic advisor NO WAY I'm taking remedial English. I said "Man, I'm a published author! No way I'm sitting in a class with a bunch of illiterates that couldn't score an 18 in English on the ACT."

Well, the only way out is to take the ACT again.

I cringe at what my math score will be.

But ... if I can't come back after 34 years and score at least a 26 or 27 or higher in English on the ACT, I'll eat my hat.

Jane, threads on these boards take a life of their own. Don't worry about what you post.

Heck, I would think anything someone with a screenname like Jane Eyre would post would fit on a thread about going to college.

I thought Jane brought up an interesting topic. (For those of you that don't know, it was basically that success can't be measured by a degree). This weekend, I opened up to my sister who has a doctorate saying that I was very proud of her but have trouble sometimes dealing with my own feelings about having left the ministry.....not because I want to go back....but because we worked hard like her and have nothing to show for it. I got no response. (I wrote her on email.) I don't know if I will get one. Much of my family seems to have little respect for what my husband and I did pastoring and some of them think we were just involved in a wierd cult and are glad we are out. This is hard to swallow. My sister gets most of the respect in that department even though she is not a moral person as we would see it.

I want to go to school too, but I want it to be for the right reasons and not just because I want someone to pat me on the back. I am only talking about myself here.

*AQuietPlace* 03-16-2009 09:49 AM

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ILG, I understand what you are dealing with. I'll be praying that you find direction.

commonsense 03-16-2009 09:59 AM

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Tim, wishing you the best. It's great to "go for the gold"! I'm sure you'll be able to achieve your goals. (even as a seasoned student)

ILG 03-16-2009 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 720752)
ILG, I understand what you are dealing with. I'll be praying that you find direction.

Thanks, AQP...

Pragmatist 03-16-2009 08:18 PM

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I'm so happy for you. And I'm sure you'll ace the ACT, no problem.

Sam 03-16-2009 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 720403)
Go for it!!!!!!!:thumbsup

Also my advice.

ManOfWord 03-16-2009 10:17 PM

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Way to go, Tim!! I am certain you will bring the dream to completion. May you exceed the fun limit in doing so! Just don't try to keep up with the kids. LOL

Neck 03-16-2009 10:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timlan2057 (Post 720400)
(I think that's what she titled her thread when she said she was going back to school.) :blush

Anyway ...



My 20 year career in the car business has ended.

I left voluntarily. My leaving was not forced nor economy-related, though selling even a quality product like Toyota was getting tougher; making my life change that much more opportune.

I guess I feel fortunate that I'm leaving and not a drug addict, an alcoholic or penniless because of throwing money away on women and carousing. No, not every veteran car salesman meets that end but enough do to make note of.

They were sorry to see me go when I left so I suppose that's another thing to be thankful for.

Nobody goes to college to become a career car salesman. I drifted into the car business 20 years ago to pay off some extra bills and then it became my career. I spent most of it in management.

My hat is off to the man who goes to work every day at a job he doesn't particularly like - many of us do.

I regretted every day of my adult life that I did not go to an accredited university and get a REAL degree. I succeeded in a gregarious, people-oriented profession when I longed to make a living with my true nature and passion - scholarly pursuits. I'd be immensely happy on a deserted island if I had my library with me.

I figured at age 51, after seeing two wonderful children through growing up and onto college that my dreams had done what the playwright said dreams that are deferred do: shrivel up like A Raisin In The Sun.

My eyes were opened when my kids started college as to how much financial aid was out there; especially for a "non-traditional" student like me. But hey, I like to have things planned out - and you just don't change careers to chase what some would call a silly dream. I figured I'd sit at my desk in the dealership every day until I retired and quietly live with my regrets.

But I'd feel the constant tug in my guts and heart of what Andy Dufresne said in "Shawshank Redemption" - get busy living ... or get busy dying. I suppose that's good advice for a 51 year old man.

Starting this summer, I will be a full-time student at Louisiana State University at Alexandria, majoring in History and minoring in Political Science - and I ain't stopping until I get my PhD.

I hope to finish my undergraduate studies in no more than three years by going to school in the summer and then I'll be walking those hills and around those lakes at LSU in Baton Rouge. I'm about to burst at the thought. I'd even be thrilled doing graduate school at Louisiana-Lafayette.

See, I'd always had to have things lined out to a T and planned years ahead. That's not always possible when you're pursuing a dream. Now, that doesn't mean being stupid either. My son Brent is a sophomore at LSUA. He works and brings home a decent check so between us, we can live pretty much like we have been. When he gets his degree in a couple years, I'll live in a dormitory and stack boxes at WalMart if I have to.

I can't describe the feeling at 51 years of age to be chasing a dream at all costs. I feel alive again; like a teenager again with my entire life ahead of me. Yeah, I know I don't have all THAT much time left but it is true - it is not how long you live, but for what you live that counts. Heck, I may decide after I get my bachelor's to go to law school but one way or the other,about seven years from now, I WILL be wearing that hooded academic gown with the belled sleeves and three chevrons that signifies: "Doctor."

I'll need some extracirricular activites to get into graduate school. Nah, I don't think I'll try out for the baseball team, but LSUA has a pretty good debate team that's tussled with LSU and Tulane. I wonder if they need an old coot with a bit of debating experience? Man, I can see myself locking horns in the debate platform with some kid from Harvard; giving as well as I'm getting and maybe a little better.

Yes, I'm realistic enough to know at my age I probably don't have the time to become head of the Military History Department at West Point or an Appeals Court Judge - but don't count me out.

All I know is I feel like Tom Hanks's character in "Saving Private Ryan" when, in the opening scene at Omaha Beach, he and his men were pinned down by a German machine gun nest. They could have just sat there pinned but then Tom Hanks hollered: "Okay, let's get in this war!" And they began the work of clearing out the machine gun nest and opening the draw yard by bloody yard.

I could spend the rest of my life complaining and moaning that I didn't go to an accredited college and die bitter and unfulfilled. I realize there are obstacles ahead and it won't come easy though reading, writing and breathing history has been what I have lived for and what has been my greatest joy.

Regardless, I'm NOT going to sit here the rest of my life behind a desk selling cars wondering what might have been. I'm going to get into this war.

I feel like Red in Shawshank Redemption, probably my single favorite movie character of all time. He said:

"I find I'm so excited I can barely sit still, or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey who's conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend, and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope ..."

I hope I can hold up physically to make it all the way to my PhD ...

I hope I can have a fulfilling career in the time I have left ...

I hope my future career is as exciting and wonderful as it has been in my dreams ...

I hope ...

http://www2.bc.edu/~yanno/Shawshank%20Redemption.jpg

You taking the leap just wanted me to leap with you. I have a son starting college this fall and a son who is a freshman in HS. I did not go to college and just wish that I would have 27 years ago. I am now 44 almost 45 and for the past 10 years been in Telecom sales. Telecom is getting hit just like all other business today. I am sick of the new style of upper management in sales. Is nothing like it was just a few years ago. It just is no more fun...

Stay encouraged and keep us up to date...


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