Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airport
 

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I like the threat "you are going to have to prove why you have the money?"


Welcome to freedom watch.
Don't go to Vegas to gamble because it will get you threatened.

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Crazy how exercising constitutional rights is called "playing games" and lack of cooperation.

How stupid!

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Wow, since when is it illegal to carry cash through an airport? Scary--thank God he taped the whole event, I hope there is a lawsuit in the works.

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This is the price range for Democrats and what they pay prostitutes. The leftists should go ballistic on this because the abortion supreme court case was based on privacy "rights", the abolition of sodomy laws is based on "privacy"
An abortion is around 6,000 and they don't want to hurt that cash industry.

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Indeed.

We should all educate ourselves on what our rights are and how to stand for them within the confines of speaking respectfully and yet standing for what is right.

There are a number of videos on youtube and elsewhere that instruct in the proper ways to interact respectfully and yet clearly make a stand that your rights will not be infringed upon.

Most infringements of rights that go on happen in a "matter of fact" fashion. You have waived your rights before you even know what happened.

These days you have to overtly educate yourself how to actively maintain your rights or you will waive them left and right without even knowing you did it. Of course a lot of that has to do with the fact that many people don't even know what their rights are.

Like, in the interaction in the youtube video... he asked if he was legally bound to answer this question. Their response said it all... no... he was not. But that didn't keep them from badgering and threatening him.

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Amazing--but where does the law have the right to speculate how someone is going to spend their cash? I think the young man answered the law enforcement correctly, what law says he has to answer their questions about what the cash was for?


Did anyone catch how they found the cash in the first place?

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I didn't hear where they said how they found it. But it was in a box... so they were probably searching his stuff and found a box of cash and VIOLA... you are a suspected terrorist.

If having lots of cash makes you a terrorist suspect then I am a true patriot. :)

Actually... scratch that... while I don't have cash I have a fair amount of silver. That might be more incriminating than cash.

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I suspect they were thinking more in terms of drug dealer or drug buyer than terrorist.

however the point is well made, they had no right to detain him, they had no legal right to ask him a blessed question and I hope he sues the pants of these people.

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I think that is where he blew it, or didn't think about it anyway. Keith and I will be in a fair amount of airports this year (all international [probably makes a difference]) But....

Keith always carries cash on his person, actually around his neck with our plane tickets and passports. No one ever sees it, or has asked to see it.

Maybe this is a lesson to all, never put a wallet full of cash through inspection at the airport.:D

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I agree!

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I am working and listening to the video so this question may have been covered and I missed it.

As far as suing them - Who provided the audio of the conversation? If the guy that is suing provided it without telling the TSA that he was recording them, then it's not admissible in a court of law as evidence.

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he recorded it himself without their knowelege. you may be right, it might not be admissable.


but regardless, they detained him for having cash. unless there is some law stating that is a reason to detain him, he should have a case for being detained illegally.

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Ooops, I meant admissible. Well, he won't get anywhere with the lawsuit not allowing the TSA to be privy to his actions beforehand.

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PO, my point is, I dont think he needs that tape to prove he was detained illegally.

they detained him for having LEGAL AMERICAN TENDER.

Nothing concerning any of the susequint conversations would be required to prove he was detained.

Now if there is some legal protection that TSA has where they are instructed to detain someone for carrying cash, then they might be off the hook, but if there is, then that needs to go to the supreme court to over turn it.


wacky.

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I think they will be off the hook.

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then we have a most messed up country.


someone who wants a name for themselves needs to get that before the supreme court.

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That would be my thinking as well, he doesn't need the tape to have a case-

He was doing nothing illegal to be detained and questioned the way he was.

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Yep. I must listen to details better than some of the above posts. The FBI guy said they couldn't have him miss flight over cash in possession. That answers another question about winning damages. He made the flight, what is the damage?

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Not necessarliy....it depends on the laws of the state it happened in. Some states only one party has to have knowledge of the recording. The following is an exerpt from The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press:

Thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia permit individuals to record conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so. These laws are referred to as “one-party consent” statutes, and as long as you are a party to the conversation, it is legal for you to record it. (Nevada also has a one-party consent statute, but the state Supreme Court has interpreted it as an all-party rule.)

Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws. If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.

Regardless of the state, it is almost always illegal to record a conversation to which you are not a party, do not have consent to tape, and could not naturally overhear.

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The lesson needs to go to the TSA... it is neither illegal nor reason for search & detainment for an American Citizen to carry cash.

They need to know the limitations of their power and operate within it.

If they cannot do that they need to go back to work for Burger King.

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Ferd,
The guy has a bunch of money on him AND a recording device. Why was he rigged up with a recording device? Something just doesn't seem right.

I've been rigged with a recording device and had motive. What is the guy's motive? Why did he just happen to have the recording device on him at that time? These are questions that I would want answered.

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My thinking would be why take chances? Yes it surely doesn't seem right, or reasonable what so ever to detain anyone for carrying cash, it's just plain ludicrous.

But being cautious avoiding trouble is a plan that I like, and will likely remember the next time I cross and go through inspection in an airport.

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Good information to know... thanks for posting.

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Those are good questions pressing! I still don't see how carrying cash even in an excessive amount is wrong-

Does anyone know if this is even PSA protocol to detain anyone carrying cash over a certain amount..just curious!

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Any "chance taking" that would be going on is to keep allowing these infringements to continue increasing in frequency & intensity and expect that they won't get worse.

The only thing that will change these things will be monetary & penal action against those who exceed their granted authority.

It is certainly a true statement that Thomas Jefferson made when he said...

When we allow them to trample our rights because it is the easier or less fearful route then the trampling will continue.

When we make the stand and they begin to fear a people who will stand up and say no when they cross the line of their granted authority then they will watch themselves and make sure that they stay within the well marked lines of that authority.

Why study to know what your authorities are/are not when nobody will stand up and call your bluff anyway.

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PO, the TSA didnt know he had any kind of recording device. they just knew he had cash on him.

the "device" was a cell phone that is capable of recording. he wasnt "wired" there is no motive there was no suspision.


There was only a box of money that he was constitutionally allowed to walk around with. he was not detained because of any othe suspicious behavior that the money would then be considered an extension of the findings.


he was held for no other reason than the cash he had on his person.


and the harm done to him was among other things, he was held against his will for no legal reason by U. S. Federal Authorities.

That by itself, even if he did not miss his flight is damage to his person.

in fact, in larger context, it is a damage to all 300+Million Americans.

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I saw a documentary where they were detaining people. I didn't sit still long enough to know the details, but the people were unloading massive amounts of various currency from around the world.

I think they can come up with any excuse to detain you and get away with it.

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He wasn't "rigged" with a recording device.

He had a cell phone that has a function where you can quickly cause it to begin recording.

When the questioning began he activated the record function on his cell phone and it began recording.

The "bunch of money" he had on him was from sales of various items at a Campaign For Liberty event. Cash is privacy.

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I think you may have missed the statement that judge Napolitano (sp??) made concerning this. He stated the guy had one of those "new super duper telephones" and all he had to do was touch it and it started recording.

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Okay, thanks. I didn't catch that it was his cell phone. So, why did he have a box of money?

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Especially if one is ignorant of their rights.

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Several of us posting the same thing at the same time....lol!

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Well thats what I want to avoid at all costs, still hiding any cash! Although we never travel with that much cash to begin with.

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First... he is a free American and he can have a box of money if he wants to and no one has the right to ask him why. Very important point to remember there.

But... to answer your question... He had the box of money from sales of Campaign For Liberty T-Shirts, Caps and other items sold at a Campaign For LIberty rally he was returning home from.

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What in your imagination makes any of us think they were not recording him also?
Many minutes of tape were missing. His carryon was x-rayed? He may have worn a Ron Paul button or two. Remember Missouri had a bulletin floating around seeking out radicals with Ron Paul bumper stickers.
since he was at a meeting for freedom Watch, they may have been expecting this and carried phones that were ready to record. He admitted they saw him carrying Ron Paul bumper stickers and campaign for liberty stickers.

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From the campaign rally , books, CD's, clothing, and ticket sales.

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Great minds?

:)

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Some may be ignorant of their rights, but some may also know they don't have the money or support to pursue a lawsuit.

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Aren't I just annoying that I didn't sit down and listen to this clip in full detail? lol