Beloved, Now Are We The Children of GOD;
 

1 John 3:1-2 (New King James Version)

1 Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be
called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not
know Him.

2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we
shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall
see Him as He is.

Heb.2:10 KJV
For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing
many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through suffer-
ings.
Read Hebrews chapter 1.


God wanted many sons and daughters. The way to accomplish that was in and
through the Son, Jesus Christ.

Natural sons came through the first son, Adam and his woman.

Spiritual sons and daughters come through the second Son, Jesus Christ, (God
in flesh) and His wife, the church.

The "Word of God" in the beginning of a new creation, was sown in the earth.
That grain of wheat died and many have sprung up because of it. The Son finished
the work of the Father, in the earth, and went back to the Father. The Father,
(Spirit) could not do what the Son did, as the Father, but after the Son finished
the Father's work, he submitted to the Father. The Son was fixing to become A/The
FATHER. by inheritance.
But He first had to go back to the Father and submit the Sonship role and
began His role
as The/A Father.

The Son received an inheritance from His Father (Spirit) God gave His Son
the nations/heathen for an inheritance.

God SO LOVED the world that HE GAVE HIS only begotten Son that whosoever
would believe on Him would not perish but have everlasting life.

For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world
through Him might be saved.

The Son received the inheritance and finished the work to accomplish it.
WE are the JOY that was set before Him that He was willing to die on an
Cross. It was the only way to redeem His inheritance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=herw8B1S3do

Some thoughts this morning.

Falla39

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Bump!!

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I am a child of The King!

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So Sis, got a question for you.

If we, through the new birth, are the children of Christ with his Bride the Church, then are we already married to Him?

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"Beloved, NOW we are children of God...." I have always loved that. In spite of our imperfections, in spite of our times of weak faith...now...RIGHT NOW, God considers us His. Its not something we hope to be, or need to achieve to be, but, the moment we recieve Him, He gives us the power to become the sons of God!

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We are the children of GOD, but to become His sons and daughters we had
to come through Christ Jesus. The way to God was through the RIVEN
SIDE of His Son. (sounds like a C-section). The God spoke to Abraham about
was Jesus Christ. God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto HIMSELF.

God was married to Israel but He divorced her. Who is that in the Ezekiel
who was dead (in trespasses and sins) but was going to be restored. Were
not we reconciled to GOD through the New Birth. Israel (God's wife,
Israel) was and is being restored through the New Covenant. IF sons and
daughters are being born of God, born from above, it appears God and Israel (His wife)
have reconciled. God hates divorce, you know!)

Just my thought, Bro. TJJJ.

Blessings,

Falla39

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Yes, Bro. OneAccord,

I love that and also the fact that:

1 John 3:1 (Amplified Bible)

1 SEE WHAT [an incredible] quality of love the Father has given (shown, bestowed on) us, that we should [be permitted to] be named and called and counted the children of God! Also that:
John 3:16 (Amplified Bible)

16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten ([a]unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.

The more I learn about HIM, and know about HIM, the more I LOVE HIM.
WE love HIM because HE FIRST LOVED US and gave Himself for us. For you,
for me!

Hugs,

Falla39

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Correction:

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So is the Church Israel? Is that what you are saying?

And if the Church is Israel, and if the church is bearing sons and daughters by His Spirit, then how could the church just be engaged to Him? Would we not have to be married to Him already?

Just some thoughts.

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I believe we are married to Him. For as many as have been baptized into
Christ have put on Christ. If we have His Name, we are HIS!

Just my thoughts

Falla39

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I agree with you!:thumbsup Just curious.

So where in all this does the marriage supper of the Lamb fit in? Past, present, or future?

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Abba father!!

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Bro. TJJJ,

I would like your take on where the marrige supper of the Lamb fit in?
And when you think it happened!:heart

Blessings,

Falla39

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Well, we have agreed that God is married to the Church, Israel.

Then we have agreed that new souls are born of that relationship between the Church and God.

But traditional thinking says that the Church is only espoused to God, not married to Him yet, traditional thinking puts the marriage supper of the lamb into the future, after the rapture. If that's the case then the souls being born would be born through fornication.

I, of course, see it different.

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We are at present children of God BY FAITH.

26: For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27: For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Gal. 3:26

We have the down payment of the Spirit but actually we are not full Sons as yet.

13: In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14: Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Eph. 1:13-14

We have the SPIRIT OF ADOPTION.

Note the difference between the spirit of adoption and the ADOPTION ITSELF.

15: For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Rom. 8:15

22: For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23: And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24: For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? Rom. 8:22-24

So strictly speaking we are not yet Sons but will be made so at the resurrection. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE ADOPTION.

This agrees with the teaching of Yeshua that we become Children of God at the resurrection.

35: But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36: Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Luke 20:35-36

So in summary we are children of God in that we have received the Spirit as a downpayment of what is to come if we endure to the end.

At that time....the resurrection we receive the actual adoption as Sons are are Children of God in fact and not just by faith. peace and love

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Bro. TJJJ,

No wonder there is a lack of souls being born into the Kingdom of God.
If those in the Church think their not married yet, they are waiting until
the Groom comes and the marriage takes place. To those who KNOW
they are married to the Groom,(the risen Christ), have received Him and
He is already in them. (Christ in you, the hope of glory).So Christ was
once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Heb.9:28

Blessings,

Falla39

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That's the way I see it.

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Beautiful scriptures, Sister Falla...I love your posts.

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Thank you, Bro.TJJJ and Sis. Alvear, for your responses.

Hugs,

Falla39