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pelathais 04-12-2009 12:14 PM

Obama kicks pirate "booty"
 
In a daring move, President Barak Obama personally led a team of Navy SEALS (or some kind of navy peeps) in an operation to retrieve a hostage.

This is the first attempted hostage resucue by a Democrat President since 1980. In fact, this comes almost 27 years to the day after the last attempt by Jimmy Carter that ended miserably in the Iranian desert. That abortive rescue was doomed by the commanders in DC overlooking the need for dust filters on the helicopter intakes. Who would have thought a jet intake would need a dust filter in the middle of the Iranian desert?

Not to be deterred by his predecessor's errors, Obama not only equipped the SEALS with dust filters, but in compliance with OSHA regulations he ordered all Naval combatants to don "water wings" for the duration of the operation. This order included all Navy personnel including the Naval recruiters in Amarillo.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

crakjak 04-12-2009 03:21 PM

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Well, let's give him credit for not allowing this nonsense to linger on and on. Maybe we can hire out the US Navy to rescue the hostages on the other sixteen ships that the pirates hold currently, help pay the national debt.

Now let's send special forces in and clean out the pirate leaders in the multi-million dollar homes among mud huts, they shouldn't be hard to find. There is no government, so let's solve the problem.

CC1 04-12-2009 03:21 PM

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Funny thread. However I am pleased that a Democrat President was able to break through the Democrat party's normal yellow streak and authorize force to be used.

I think Obama knew that if he allowed the pirates to get this guy to shore in Somalia where we could not get to him when two or more US Navy ships had been meters away that would have been disasterous PR and once again painted the Dems as wimps unwilling to use military force for America.

Regardless of the motivation I reluctantly salue the Apologist In Chief for the force authorization.

Now if he just would stop making speeches around the world claiming that Islam has been a big part in making America what it is today.

pelathais 04-12-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 735346)
Well, let's give him credit for not allowing this nonsense to linger on and on. Maybe we can hire out the US Navy to rescue the hostages on the other sixteen ships that the pirates hold currently, help pay the national debt.

Now let's send special forces in and clean out the pirate leaders in the multi-million dollar homes among mud huts, they shouldn't be hard to find. There is no government, so let's solve the problem.

Bill Clinton and Wesley Clark did just that. It worked so well that they made a movie out of it called "Blackhawk Down."

We need armor and air support to get these thugs.

pelathais 04-12-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 735347)
Funny thread. However I am pleased that a Democrat President was able to break through the Democrat party's normal yellow streak and authorize force to be used.

I think Obama knew that if he allowed the pirates to get this guy to shore in Somalia where we could not get to him when two or more US Navy ships had been meters away that would have been disasterous PR and once again painted the Dems as wimps unwilling to use military force for America.

Regardless of the motivation I reluctantly salue the Apologist In Chief for the force authorization.

Now if he just would stop making speeches around the world claiming that Islam has been a big part in making America what it is today.

I don't know why, but I see the big O's Chief of Staff in on this one as well. He serves as a volunteer in the Israeli Defense Forces as a "truck mechanic" during national emergencies. Yeah, right. I just don't can't picture "Rahmbo" as a grease monkey when bullets are flying.

He's the only reason I didn't pack it all in after the last election.

crakjak 04-12-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 735355)
Bill Clinton and Wesley Clark did just that. It worked so well that they made a movie out of it called "Blackhawk Down."

We need armor and air support to get these thugs.

I think we have a score to settle over there, so yes send in the armor and the smart bombs.

Praxeas 04-12-2009 04:35 PM

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The real hero's should get the credit. The Navy team that did the rescue and of course the captain that allowed himself to be taken instead of his crew. I am pleasantly happy that Obama authorized it

Praxeas 04-12-2009 04:37 PM

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These ships should try to travel in packs and then it would be easier for a Frigate or something to protect them. Even the Merchant Marines are armed and could shadow the group.

Bowas 04-12-2009 05:21 PM

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Not trying to diminish the fantastic recue of this captain by some of our finest, but there was a day when our military would just kick the tail out of these renegades and scarecly if at all would we even know about it. Now we are so desparate for a victory of any kind, Barack authorizes a nominal mititary operation and now he must think he is John Wayne or even Ronald Reagan. Sorry, I don't buy into this as anything other than we resued our American from criminals in a bass boat.
Do not misunderstand, I am very very thankful for the captains rescue, but have concerns on these rag-tags no longer fear us. I think we need to re-establish fear of the USA and everyone of those "pirates" should be given a very good and fast home bible study on salvation and Acts 2:38 just before their execution.

pelathais 04-12-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 735399)
Not trying to diminish the fantastic recue of this captain by some of our finest, but there was a day when our military would just kick the tail out of these renegades and scarecly if at all would we even know about it. Now we are so desparate for a victory of any kind, Barack authorizes a nominal mititary operation and now he must think he is John Wayne or even Ronald Reagan. Sorry, I don't buy into this as anything other than we resued our American from criminals in a bass boat.
Do not misunderstand, I am very very thankful for the captains rescue, but have concerns on these rag-tags no longer fear us. I think we need to re-establish fear of the USA and everyone of those "pirates" should be given a very good and fast home bible study on salvation and Acts 2:38 just before their execution.

One of the first missions of the new US Navy 200 years ago was to free Americans who were actually taken and sold into slavery in North Africa. The Barabry Coast pirates didn't "fear" us, even after that.

Just in my life time and just off the top of my head... I remember the Pueblo being seized by the father of the renegade who runs North Korea today. They murdered several of the crew in taking the ship while it was clearly in International waters.

The Mayaguez and its crew were not released until President Ford famously "attacked the wrong island" but rattled Cambodian pirates enough that they freed their hostages.

Palestinians led by Abu Nidal murdered American Leon Klinghofer and held many dozens of Americans hostage until a negotiated settlement was reached. The American captain of a yacht was murdered last year by Venezuelan pirates and an elderly American couple was robbed and nearly beaten to death by another group of "pirates" in the same area.

I'm afraid that the "rag tags" have never really "feared" us.

Cindy 04-12-2009 06:38 PM

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:thumbsup

RevDWW 04-12-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 735347)
Now if he just would stop making speeches around the world claiming that Islam has been a big part in making America what it is today.

Come on CC1, surely you are well versed in all that Islam has done for our poor country!!!! Why if it weren't for Islam, we wouldn't have..........well let me think about it and I might be able to come up with something......

Praxeas 04-12-2009 07:34 PM

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Algebra...hashish...assasins

coadie 04-12-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 735486)
Algebra...hashish...assasins

And coffee, formerly known as the wine of Islam.

Esther 04-13-2009 06:26 AM

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I didn't hear Obama had scantioned the manuver until the captain was rescued. Had they failed I seriously doubt he would have said he endorsed the action. JMO

coadie 04-13-2009 06:54 AM

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Actually here is what the naval commander says:

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The United States government policy is to not negotiate
Obama left this out. Obama's style is to "mull things over"

KWSS1976 04-13-2009 07:14 AM

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They said the snipers took the shots in choppy water conditions now that impresive (sp)

Ferd 04-13-2009 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 735573)
And coffee, formerly known as the wine of Islam.

Etheopia gave us coffee.


and I am sitting here enjoying a nice cup of Yergachefe as we speek. God bless the Etheopians!

coadie 04-13-2009 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 735399)
Not trying to diminish the fantastic recue of this captain by some of our finest, but there was a day when our military would just kick the tail out of these renegades and scarecly if at all would we even know about it. Now we are so desparate for a victory of any kind, Barack authorizes a nominal mititary operation and now he must think he is John Wayne or even Ronald Reagan. Sorry, I don't buy into this as anything other than we resued our American from criminals in a bass boat.
Do not misunderstand, I am very very thankful for the captains rescue, but have concerns on these rag-tags no longer fear us. I think we need to re-establish fear of the USA and everyone of those "pirates" should be given a very good and fast home bible study on salvation and Acts 2:38 just before their execution.

Some truth on top of news and spin.

The pirates had been chasing the freighter for 1 week. One news source took that out of their report
cornering a rescue boat that is out of gas with a monster destroyer isn't an act of massive courage.
In negoaitaing, all the Muslims had was the captain. If they killed the captain, he was their only chance to live.

pelathais 04-13-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 735657)
Some truth on top of news and spin.

The pirates had been chasing the freighter for 1 week. One news source took that out of their report
cornering a rescue boat that is out of gas with a monster destroyer isn't an act of massive courage.
In negoaitaing, all the Muslims had was the captain. If they killed the captain, he was their only chance to live.

It is a massive act requiring some tact and care if you want to get the American out of there alive.

Next time we can expect things to be a bit more dicey.

Walks_in_islam 04-13-2009 08:49 AM

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Hey. A thought. Start with engineering, medicine, and the modern banking system. Then add some simple day-to-day stuff, like, hmmmm, say...let me quickly think - regular bathing? Then, after that, study a bit. Then, after that, come back and tell me how terribly wrong you probably think I am. All in that order. Be sure to study as it is unproductive to speak of what you are not versed in.

Now I am puzzled. I am wondering how in the world Islam got tied up with the pirate issue? Those guys seem to be equal opportunity across the board as they do not appear to pick their targets on the basis of any single belief. So, their motive must be something else. I will ponder.

Decision made. I have scooped up the below quote. It is odorous. The quickly developed plan is to take it outside - then what? I know. I will use it for something positive and do some good. I will fertilize something with it.

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 735452)
Come on CC1, surely you are well versed in all that Islam has done for our poor country!!!! Why if it weren't for Islam, we wouldn't have..........well let me think about it and I might be able to come up with something......


pelathais 04-13-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 735677)
Hey. A thought. Start with engineering, medicine, and the modern banking system.

Islam's contributions are huge. One of the more prevalent ways in which they contributed to the West though, was as a conduit from the East and to preserve many older Greek and Roman writings and technology.

"Engineering" for example included some techniquies in masonry that were originally developed by the Romans and reintroduced to Europe through Moorish Spain (see for example Alhambra).

"Arabic numerals" are actually Sanskrit numerals and thus should be known as "Indian Numerals" except Islam would not allow Europeans to trade directly with India so we got it all through the "middle man."

* The bloodiest wars in human history were then ongoing as Islam (the "Religion of Peace!") was seeking to subdue those ignorant heathen Hindus who first developed the decimal system and the convenient ways of communicating mathmetical equations.

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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 735677)
Then add some simple day-to-day stuff, like, hmmmm, say...let me quickly think - regular bathing?

The Europeans bathed as often as the ice on the lakes and streams allowed. No one "enjoyed" being dirty - but when you're poor and running for your lives it's sometimes necessary.

Soap was actually discovered in the very dim and ancient past when people noticed that their clothes got cleaner when washed downstream from the sites of human sacrifices. The wood ash mixed with human fat would run off into the streams with the rain and made a "natural soap."

Thank the heathen gods and their bloody demands next time you wash a load of clothes.
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 735677)
Then, after that, study a bit. Then, after that, come back and tell me how terribly wrong you probably think I am. All in that order. Be sure to study as it is unproductive to speak of what you are not versed in.

Now I am puzzled. I am wondering how in the world Islam got tied up with the pirate issue? Those guys seem to be equal opportunity across the board as they do not appear to pick their targets on the basis of any single belief. So, their motive must be something else. I will ponder.

I don't know... maybe because the "pirates" in question are Muslim and cite the Qu'ran for justification of their pirate-like behavior. Of course piracy is far older than Islam - it's just that in today's world Islam is largely controlled by a militant mindset. Take a look at a map of the world and chart all of the armed conflicts that are ongoing - - every one of them exists along the borders of Islam. Is that a coincidence? Or is that an intended feature of Islam itself?
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 735677)
Decision made. I have scooped up the below quote. It is odorous. The quickly developed plan is to take it outside - then what? I know. I will use it for something positive and do some good. I will fertilize something with it.

Whatever, dude. How about showing some real smarts and some authentic courage and stand up with a bull horn and preach justice and non-violence in Mecca during your next haj? We'll compare the reception you recieve from your "brethren" to the reception you recieve here.

DividedThigh 04-13-2009 10:40 AM

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we can just thank god, that those seals allready learned to shoot under pres bush, lol

gloryseeker 04-13-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 735301)
In a daring move, President Barak Obama personally led a team of Navy SEALS (or some kind of navy peeps) in an operation to retrieve a hostage.

Personally led...I think not. He gave the order that they could execute a recovery only if the Captain's life was in immediate danger.

While I will applaud him for making that decision, as it was a very good decision it is a far cry from "personally led." It's our armed forces who deserve the credit here!

coadie 04-13-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gloryseeker (Post 735743)
Personally led...I think not. He gave the order that they could execute a recovery only if the Captain's life was in immediate danger.

While I will applaud him for making that decision, as it was a very good decision it is a far cry from "personally led." It's our armed forces who deserve the credit here!

Another teleprompter malfunction.

After the Washaington beltway bandits hijacked GM and others, how dare some one take a little boat with food.

Team Obama is in the midst of 100 days of the largest hijacking of money ever observed on this planet. $29 billion of GM bonds held by bond holders are in the trash.

pelathais 04-13-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 735756)
Another teleprompter malfunction.

After the Washaington beltway bandits hijacked GM and others, how dare some one take a little boat with food.

Team Obama is in the midst of 100 days of the largest hijacking of money ever observed on this planet. $29 billion of GM bonds held by bond holders are in the trash.

You're right, but they may have been headed to the trash any how. What killed GM was the Unionistas and a policy of government protectionism that rewarded the manufacture of inferior vehicles.

coadie 04-13-2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 735786)
You're right, but they may have been headed to the trash any how. What killed GM was the Unionistas and a policy of government protectionism that rewarded the manufacture of inferior vehicles.

I always like my chevy Pickup truck. The union piracy is their liquidity issue.

GM did well selling what they specialized in. It hasn't been econo cars for years. They are flooded with 9 months inventory of hybrids.

pelathais 04-13-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gloryseeker (Post 735743)
Personally led...I think not. He gave the order that they could execute a recovery only if the Captain's life was in immediate danger.

While I will applaud him for making that decision, as it was a very good decision it is a far cry from "personally led." It's our armed forces who deserve the credit here!

No, according to Press Spokesperson Gibbs, the President personally flew an SR-71 Blackbird to the secret base in Diego Garcia where he then personally took command of a nuclear armed boomer attack sub before singlehandedly boarding a specially equipped zodiac rigid inflatable and conquering the sea pirates in a daring move.

Here's a photo of the President after he dragged the surviving pirate up on the beach at Socotra. Apparently the babes were waiting.

photo removed by admin

KWSS1976 04-13-2009 12:26 PM

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Posted a picture of a half naked chick on a Apostolic fourm... Sweet LOL

Ferd 04-13-2009 12:28 PM

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Lets get real. Everything that Islam has contributed to the world was done a thousand years ago!

there is nothing that Modern Islam has provided that has done a blessed thing for modernity.

In fact one could argue that modern islam as the enemy of modernity in any form!

Thats one of the big problems with modern Islam. All it can do is look to the halcion days of a thousand years ago.

coadie 04-13-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 735804)
Lets get real. Everything that Islam has contributed to the world was done a thousand years ago!

there is nothing that Modern Islam has provided that has done a blessed thing for modernity.

In fact one could argue that modern islam as the enemy of modernity in any form!

Thats one of the big problems with modern Islam. All it can do is look to the halcion days of a thousand years ago.

So inventing the "crank shaft" hasn't brought more speed to camels?

Whenever the Muslims get money, they devote it to spending on creating havoc.

pelathais 04-13-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 735802)
Posted a picture of a half naked chick on a Apostolic fourm... Sweet LOL

Uses an avatar of a bug-eyed rabbit on an Apostolic forum... sweet.

If the cartoons arose anyone, they've got problems that should preclude their participation on serious forums anyhow. http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ons/icon10.gif

KWSS1976 04-13-2009 12:49 PM

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O mine is Ren off of Ren and Stimpy he is a Chiuaua...LOL

Praxeas 04-13-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 735677)
Hey. A thought. Start with engineering, medicine, and the modern banking system. Then add some simple day-to-day stuff, like, hmmmm, say...let me quickly think - regular bathing? Then, after that, study a bit. Then, after that, come back and tell me how terribly wrong you probably think I am. All in that order. Be sure to study as it is unproductive to speak of what you are not versed in.

Now I am puzzled. I am wondering how in the world Islam got tied up with the pirate issue? Those guys seem to be equal opportunity across the board as they do not appear to pick their targets on the basis of any single belief. So, their motive must be something else. I will ponder.

Decision made. I have scooped up the below quote. It is odorous. The quickly developed plan is to take it outside - then what? I know. I will use it for something positive and do some good. I will fertilize something with it.

While Arabs, not the religion of Islam, has had some moments of genius long long ago, the advocates of the religion Islam, who are not all Arabs, have plunged many nations into the dark ages and continue to have their dark ages, crusader mentality.

These pirates are muslims. They practice the same thing muslims do in other nations like the Philippines of kidnapping people and holding them for ransom so they can buy more weapons.

Before you can convince us otherwise, rather than come here and attempt to rebuke us, you and all other moderate muslims need to go on a campaign of rebuking those radicals, get Islamic nations to stop beating the mess out of women, stop turning a blind eye to the practices of some of a girl being raped, then being stoned to death for being raped (honor killing).

Maybe you are just not loud enough, or maybe your visit to these forums is too arrogant. But we see Pakistan, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Phillippians, Turkey Afghanistan and other nations that are islamic nations and where such practices occur...If you agree with the things that go on there then that is one thing and quite frankly you are never going to concince is Islam is the way. If you are against those things then before you can convince us of anything you guys need to start speaking LOUDER than your more intolerant and more conservative brethren

Ferd 04-13-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 735821)
O mine is Ren off of Ren and Stimpy he is a Chiuaua...LOL

I prefer Ren and Stimpy to Islam.

I do not consider Ren and Stimpy to be harmless either.

KWSS1976 04-13-2009 01:00 PM

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O they are far from harmless..... LOL

pelathais 04-13-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 735821)
O mine is Ren off of Ren and Stimpy he is a Chiuaua...LOL

hmm... you seem to know a bit too much about television cartoons for a REAL Apostolic! http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...cons/icon9.gif

KWSS1976 04-13-2009 01:06 PM

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If you don't know me by now..LOL

Ferd 04-13-2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 735829)
O they are far from harmless..... LOL

LOL! thats my point.

coadie 04-13-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 735677)
Hey. A thought. Start with engineering, medicine, and the modern banking system. Then add some simple day-to-day stuff, like, hmmmm, say...let me quickly think - regular bathing? Then, after that, study a bit. Then, after that, come back and tell me how terribly wrong you probably think I am. All in that order. Be sure to study as it is unproductive to speak of what you are not versed in.

Now I am puzzled. I am wondering how in the world Islam got tied up with the pirate issue? Those guys seem to be equal opportunity across the board as they do not appear to pick their targets on the basis of any single belief. So, their motive must be something else. I will ponder.

Decision made. I have scooped up the below quote. It is odorous. The quickly developed plan is to take it outside - then what? I know. I will use it for something positive and do some good. I will fertilize something with it.

Modern banking has to do with the use of electronic banking and electronic transfer of money.

We know you have to be smoking something if you believe that came from Islam. The earliest mechanical real cash registers were from NCR and 1 or 2 others. Islam had nothing to do with the development of computors and software to do banking as we know it.
I will give Muslims a credit for the explosion of bank fraud, money laundering and the necessity of the patriot act to ensure a decrease of some laundering and international transfer of money for weapons.

The leading criminals exploiting banks today are Muslim groups.


Actually, my roomate, co worker, neighbor and relative became the director of all research for IBM for many years. Of course he had no Muslim discoveries to chase to learn how to develop technology and create Computer POS devices and transfer info. The only thing Muslims and the middle east shared was sand. sand for the semiconductor industry. Now I suppose you will take credit for inventing and discovering sand? I had an employee that is a ceramics engineer. Funny how the Arabs are so irrelevant in the development of integrated circuitry and storage materials.

Just remember Mohammad was illiterate and you can have had the transfer of info limited to verbal repition have a lot of error over time.


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