Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patrol
 

And he had never crossed any border...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUzd7G875Hc

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

LOL

this is the "p**sing against the wall* guy I posted about a few months ago :D

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

Well this time he was pushed against the wall. :) Or the asphalt...

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

hahahahahahahaha

Well...if his story is true, action should definitely be taken against these agents...

BUT! I can certainly understand them wanting to hurt this guy!!! he's annoying!!!

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

There are no laws against being stupid, annoying, hardheaded, opinionated, or just plain foolish. There are laws, however, against criminal assault, physical assault by law enforcement against the citizens of the U.S. in direct violation of the Constitution and the general laws of the land (state and federal).

The question remains: When a representative of the government can, at their own discretion, suspend your legal rights and protections, and impose their own will upon you - and use whatever force they deem necessary to impose that will, by what term(s) would that kind of government be identified?

Assuming that the whole incident is on video tape just as the pastor describes it, and that those tapes must be surrendered to a court of law for criminal and/or civil prosecution.

Assuming for the moment that the events are true as given: What is to prevent any of us from being the next victim of governmental abuse, should anyone evoke their constitutional rights and protections? Question: Are we required to give up our rights just because we are asked to? And, if you choose not to, does that give an officer the right to inflict injuries and then arrest you?

If one has nothing to hide, why not comply with any and all requests/demands made of you? Which leads us to this: If you are a law abiding citizen, why do you need any legal/civil rights or protections at all?

Conclusion: None of us (except some terrorists) have any rights or protections left. To claim any old fashion rights of American citizenship is an admission of guilt of whatever charge made, and leaves one open to physical assault and arrest for failure to voluntarily relinquish those non-existent rights.

After all, any one of us might be next! But, if that is the case, so what?

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If these video tapes are a misinterpretation of the true facts, then may the officers named by this paster sue him for every cent he has (or will ever get). And, if these public statements are in anyway a fabrication of the true events of the night in question, and if there are any laws covering such fictional ramblings, then may he go to jail for as long as the law will allow.

If the charges are true, then the officers involved need to go to jail for assault, the destruction of private property, and false imprisonment.

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

Welcome to the New Age America! Hitler would be proud. Its true that your Constitutional rights no longer mean anything. I see nothing funny about this.

It wont be long this will be normal treatment for all believers.

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

I agree, Michael. I don't find it funny.

For his own sake, the pastor should have just cooperated, BUT it's a sad day when we have to fear these various agencies to the point that we can't even expect our basic rights to be recognized. The bottom line is, these agencies have been given too much power, too little supervision, and no one seems to care about the constitution.

It's kind of like the case of the guy in the airport from a few weeks ago, who was detained because he had money in his suitcase. To protect himself from harrassment, he could have just went along with them, but the truth is, he should have been able to assert his rights, and have them recognized. Instead, these various law enforcers (and I use that term VERY loosely) act confused when you make reasonable requests.

A government that can't be questioned is a very dangerous entity.

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

Amen

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

This government is to powerful and all of it is awakening.

God please bless America's people.

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

I'm confused........why was there border patrol if he was going from San Diego to Phoenix? You don't even cross over into Mexico anywhere, do you? Why would he even have been stopped?

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

There are checkpoints on highways near the border, even ones that don't cross the border. We've been stopped on I10 on our way to California, a few times. I answered their questions! :lol

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

Timmy is a smart boy.:thumbsup

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

I can understand the authorities becoming suspicious when someone refuses a simple search of their car. What I don't understand is someone refusing such a search when you have nothing to hide, and it can get you quickly on your way!

Methinks the good Rev. was looking for trouble, and found it! :)

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

The reason is that some people know their rights and the know when they are being infringed upon.

These things are those issues that people have a hard time understanding as long as the police actions don't cross any lines they are uncomfortable with. When the time finally comes that lines are crossed and this is suddenly too much it is, generally speaking, too late.

The police, by that time, have already been allowed to surpass their actual authority so far and for so long that there is no more boundary of law.

You have the right to refuse consent to your vehicle being searched. If we are now living in a world where knowing and standing for your constitutional rights is place for suspicion of criminal activity then the America that our forefathers fought and died for is long dead and beyond resuscitation.

It is often said... well... why are you refusing to allow them to do the search if you don't have anything to hide.

It is within your right to do so... and they do not have the right to do so without probably cause.

To make such a statement would be tantamount to watching the video below and saying... well... what's the big deal if you don't have anything to hide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCyKcoDaofg

Re: Baptist Preacher Beaten & Tazed By Border Patr
 

OK i understand that ,However is it still illegal search and siezuer [sp.] without a warrent.Kind of like the TSA, I will withhold my opinion about them,alot of freedom is lost in the name of safety.The worst part is nowadays is that You are guilty untill proven innocent.