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Dedicated Mind 04-29-2009 03:32 PM

Adam lambert is gay!!
 
OMG!! Pictures of Adam Lambert dressed in drag and kissing another guy! Can he still win?

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rgcraig 04-29-2009 03:32 PM

Re: Adam lambert is gay!!
 
Duh!

You didn't know this? LOL!

Dedicated Mind 04-29-2009 03:34 PM

Re: Adam lambert is gay!!
 
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 743782)
Duh!

You didn't know this? LOL!

I seriously didn't know. I knew he was edgy but I never thought it was true.

Digging4Truth 04-29-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 743784)
I seriously didn't know. I knew he was edgy but I never thought it was true.

It seemed pretty obvious to me.

mfblume 04-29-2009 03:36 PM

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If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

rgcraig 04-29-2009 03:37 PM

Re: Adam lambert is gay!!
 
Well, if he has in fact starred in a porn film I think he needs to be disqualified.

I mean if Miss American is disqualified for posing in Playboy, then he shouldn't be allowed to be an American Idol.

Sinatra 04-29-2009 03:38 PM

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[QUOTE=Dedicated Mind;743781]OMG!! Pictures of Adam Lambert dressed in drag and kissing another guy! Can he still win?




I thought everyone knew this.

Those pictures began surfacing after week one of American Idol.


Sinatra

Sam 04-29-2009 03:39 PM

Re: Adam lambert is gay!!
 
He's gay?

So what?

What else would you expect on tv?

There is a big push by Hollywood, New York, the news/entertainment media, the National Teachers' Union, PBS, the Federal Government, etc. to force the GLBT agenda upon us.

Sinatra 04-29-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743792)
He's gay?

So what?

What else would you expect on tv?

There is a big push by Hollywood, New York, the news/entertainment media, the National Teachers' Union, PBS, the Federal Government, etc. to force the GLBT agenda upon us.




I agree. Even my children recognize this. Just the other day one of my kids commented on the fact that everywhere you turn, someone or something is pushing the gay agenda.


Sinatra

Sherri 04-29-2009 03:44 PM

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When he sang that first night, it was just EVIL. Since then I think they have toned him down somewhat to please the crowd. But I'm not surprised at all about him being gay; the eyeliner kind of gives that away.

freeatlast 04-29-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743792)
He's gay?

So what?

What else would you expect on tv?

There is a big push by Hollywood, New York, the news/entertainment media, the National Teachers' Union, PBS, the Federal Government, etc. to force the GLBT agenda upon us.

So he's gay. Does not mean he can't sing. Clay Aiken came in runner up and was gay.

Shoot, some "our" best singers havebeen gay. :ursofunny

Jack Shephard 04-29-2009 03:48 PM

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For those of you that vote for the Idols would this change the way you vote if your FAV were to be gay?

KWSS1976 04-29-2009 03:52 PM

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Man that is a loaded question..LOL

Dedicated Mind 04-29-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 743800)
For those of you that vote for the Idols would this change the way you vote if your FAV were to be gay?

I still think he is the most talented, but I won't vote for him. I'll let America decide.

Sam 04-29-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 743808)
I still think he is the most talented, but I won't vote for him. I'll let America decide.

Is it fair to vote for or against a person because the person is gay?
instead of voting based on talent?

Aren't a lot of the people in the sports/entertainment industry gay?

Should LGBT people be excluded from Apostolic worship teams and music ministry?

Dedicated Mind 04-29-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743813)
Is it fair to vote for or against a person because the person is gay?
instead of voting based on talent?

Aren't a lot of the people in the sports/entertainment industry gay?

Should LGBT people be excluded from Apostolic worship teams and music ministry?

Sam, despite the fact that I think you have a prejudiced attitude for your remark about fox news, I will respond to you.
I will not vote for a gay person because I don't want to promote his lifestyle and allow him/her to be an influence in the lives of young people. That is not to say that I would promote discrimination as you have by your joke. My vote is my right and anyone can withhold it if they please for whatever reason.

MissBrattified 04-29-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743813)
Is it fair to vote for or against a person because the person is gay?
instead of voting based on talent?

Aren't a lot of the people in the sports/entertainment industry gay?

It's American Idol. Not the "Best Singer" awards. Meaning, the whole package counts, AND you should vote for who you think deserves to be someone Americans look up to.

Adam Lambert is definitely talented, no doubt about it. And singing ability on its own, I'm a fan. But as for voting? It's fair for me to vote however I wish, and for whatever reasons I wish. That's a democratic process at work. I can vote against someone because they have a mole on their nose, if I want to. :D

I haven't voted this season anyway, but if I do, I will not vote for Adam Lambert--partially because he's gay, and partially because his actions show he's not a good role model (e.g. "American Idol") for America.

...is it fair....*mumble mumble* OF COURSE IT'S FAIR!!!!!

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Should LGBT people be excluded from Apostolic worship teams and music ministry?
100% YES!!!! :smack

If liars, adulterers, thieves, etc. are excluding, homosexuals should be, too.

Monkeyman 04-29-2009 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743813)
Is it fair to vote for or against a person because the person is gay?
instead of voting based on talent?

Aren't a lot of the people in the sports/entertainment industry gay?

Should LGBT people be excluded from Apostolic worship teams and music ministry?

I say yes, exclude them from our platforms? What say you Sam?

Sam 04-29-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 743832)
I say yes, exclude them from our platforms? What say you Sam?

I think that is up to a local pastor.

Monkeyman 04-29-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743838)
I think that is up to a local pastor.

Sam, so if a Pastor is cool with a practicing, unrepentant, unchanged, known homosexual leading in their worship services, you are as well? Sorry for making you repeat yourself, I just need clarity.

Steve Epley 04-29-2009 05:12 PM

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I know I know but WHO is he and who cares?

Monkeyman 04-29-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 743842)
I know I know but WHO is he and who cares?

You know that phrase you have that states, "lost as two boys kissing"...well, he's one of the boys. Oh, and he is trying to become the next singing secular superstar:(

Sam 04-29-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 743840)
Sam, so if a Pastor is cool with a practicing, unrepentant, unchanged, known homosexual leading in their worship services, you are as well? Sorry for making you repeat yourself, I just need clarity.

Do I know if he/she is a practicing, unrepentant, unchanged, known homosexual?

Or do I know if he/she is a person struggling with sexual issues?

I have to leave that up to the pastor.

Some pastors will not allow facial hair on the platform.

Some pastors will not allow colored shirts on the platform.

Some pastors will not allow wedding rings on the platform.

Some pastors will not allow neckties on the platform.

I have to leave that up to the pastor.

Sam 04-29-2009 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 743842)
I know I know but WHO is he and who cares?

some one on some tv show

Monkeyman 04-29-2009 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743850)
Do I know if he/she is a practicing, unrepentant, unchanged, known homosexual?

Or do I know if he/she is a person struggling with sexual issues?

I have to leave that up to the pastor.

Some pastors will not allow facial hair on the platform.

Some pastors will not allow colored shirts on the platform.

Some pastors will not allow wedding rings on the platform.

Some pastors will not allow neckties on the platform.

I have to leave that up to the pastor.

One LAST time...if an unrepentant, unchanged, practicing, and KNOWN BY ALL TO BE AN OUT OF THE CLOSET HOMOSEXUAL, should he/she/it be allowed on an Apostolic platform if YOU are the pastor? Yes or no?

Sam 04-29-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 743854)
One LAST time...if an unrepentant, unchanged, practicing, and KNOW BY ALL TO BE AN OUT OF THE CLOSET HOMOSEXUAL, should he be allowed on an Apostolic platform if YOU are the pastor? Yes or no?


I can't say "yes" or "no"

that's up to the local pastor

I can't tell a pastor who he/she can have or not have on the platform

Monkeyman 04-29-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743856)
I can't say "yes" or "no"

that's up to the local pastor

I can't tell a pastor who he/she can have or not have on the platform

Come on SAM, I asked if YOU were the Pastor?

berkeley 04-29-2009 05:28 PM

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I work with an unrepentant reprobate. He is going to be singing in his church. His pastor knows that he is gay. Oh well, they are trinitarians... :spit

Sam 04-29-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 743857)
Come on SAM, I asked if YOU were the Pastor?

I am not a pastor.

If I were a pastor and invited a local government official to the platform, should I step in and prohibit him/her because of differences in political views, religion, or sexual orientation?

If I were a pastor and allowed singing groups on the platform who were not members of my local assembly, should I demand that one of the members of one of the groups leave because of differences in political views, religion, or sexual orientation.

Is this any different than a church having politicians or professional singers on the platform who have different views when it comes to politics, religion, or sexual orientation?

Monkeyman 04-29-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743865)
I am not a pastor.

If I were a pastor and invited a local government official to the platform, should I step in and prohibit him/her because of differences in political views, religion, or sexual orientation?NO, Christian? No, any other religion, then YES

If I were a pastor and allowed singing groups on the platform who were not members of my local assembly, should I demand that one of the members of one of the groups leave because of differences in political views, religion, or sexual orientation.NO, same as #2 above, YES

Is this any different than a church having politicians or professional singers on the platform who have different views when it comes to politics, religion, or sexual orientation?

See above answers. See its that easy sam to answer a question yes or no, lol!

Monkeyman 04-29-2009 05:37 PM

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Gotta run Sam, peace out.

tamor 04-29-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 743796)
When he sang that first night, it was just EVIL. Since then I think they have toned him down somewhat to please the crowd.

I agree.

Praxeas 04-29-2009 07:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743792)
He's gay?

So what?

What else would you expect on tv?

There is a big push by Hollywood, New York, the news/entertainment media, the National Teachers' Union, PBS, the Federal Government, etc. to force the GLBT agenda upon us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinatra (Post 743794)
I agree. Even my children recognize this. Just the other day one of my kids commented on the fact that everywhere you turn, someone or something is pushing the gay agenda.


Sinatra

Which is why I don't understand why Apostolics give tacit approval of this stuff by watching it.

OldTimey 04-29-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Adam lambert is gay!!
 
As Ryan says everytime the show starts. "This is American Idol".
It's not "fits right wing conservative morality" idol.
It's supposed to be about the best performer. PERIOD.
Sexuality shouldn't play into the discussion.
You're not choosing people for your next conference.
I've always felt sorry for the blatantly gay in "Apostolic/Pentecostal" circles.
It's not like they'll confide in any of you.(from what I've seen)
It's the elephant in the room...oops, I mean on the platform.

OldTimey 04-29-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 743796)
When he sang that first night, it was just EVIL. Since then I think they have toned him down somewhat to please the crowd. But I'm not surprised at all about him being gay; the eyeliner kind of gives that away.

eyeliner=has sex with men. Interesting theory.

RandyWayne 04-29-2009 10:40 PM

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I don't watch American Idol at all, so I keep seeing this thread and thinking "Christopher Lambert".

"There can be only one!"

Praxeas 04-29-2009 10:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTimey (Post 743988)
As Ryan says everytime the show starts. "This is American Idol".
It's not "fits right wing conservative morality" idol.
It's supposed to be about the best performer. PERIOD.
Sexuality shouldn't play into the discussion.
You're not choosing people for your next conference.
I've always felt sorry for the blatantly gay in "Apostolic/Pentecostal" circles.
It's not like they'll confide in any of you.(from what I've seen)
It's the elephant in the room...oops, I mean on the platform.

If someone is blatantly gay there is no point in confiding..good grief.

n david 04-30-2009 07:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 743796)
When he sang that first night, it was just EVIL. Since then I think they have toned him down somewhat to please the crowd. But I'm not surprised at all about him being gay; the eyeliner kind of gives that away.

I believe Adam's genre of music is more alternative/rock/metal ... if that's correct, there are a lot of males in that genre who wear eye liner.

MomOfADramaQn 04-30-2009 07:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 743850)
Do I know if he/she is a practicing, unrepentant, unchanged, known homosexual?

Or do I know if he/she is a person struggling with sexual issues?

I have to leave that up to the pastor.

Some pastors will not allow facial hair on the platform.

Some pastors will not allow colored shirts on the platform.

Some pastors will not allow wedding rings on the platform.

Some pastors will not allow neckties on the platform.

I have to leave that up to the pastor.



I have to ask - are you gay and "on a platform"?

The difference between a homosexual and the other issues you have on your list is homosexuality is something in the Bible that is dealt with in black and white - it is a sin and says so in the bible period - wearing colored shirts, neckties, are issues that are personal convictions and yes is up to a pastor whether he wants that on a platform - you need to compare apples to apples.

MissBrattified 04-30-2009 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTimey (Post 743988)
As Ryan says everytime the show starts. "This is American Idol".
It's not "fits right wing conservative morality" idol.

Oh, please. I'm an American, I'm a right wing conservative, so if I want to vote (or not vote) for someone based on those views, I'm welcome to. :thumbsup

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It's supposed to be about the best performer. PERIOD.
Their character matters. If it doesn't--it should. And I can make it matter with my vote. Even if my vote is the only one.

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Sexuality shouldn't play into the discussion.
You're not choosing people for your next conference.
I've always felt sorry for the blatantly gay in "Apostolic/Pentecostal" circles.
It's not like they'll confide in any of you.(from what I've seen)
It's the elephant in the room...oops, I mean on the platform.
Quit trying to be so politically correct. :D "Sexuality" shouldn't play into the discussion? If a person is public with their sexuality, they give others the right to have an opinion about it, and to express that opinion. If they didn't want to give others that right, they should keep it private.

Regardless, AI has always been about the whole package. Not just the singing. They have to look good, be good, and perform well on stage as well as be able to sing. If I decide to take the time to vote for someone (which is rare anyway), I will consider everything about them that concerns me.

As for homosexuals on platforms--unless someone states publicly that they are homosexual, I don't feel I have the right to judge them as being such--I'm not God, I don't know their hearts. Are you, and do you?

Some men are effeminate, and that should be dealt with. However, saying effeminacy necessarily equals homosexuality is like saying a woman with a gregarious personality (which can be viewed as "flirty") is necessarily an adulteress. Not good to make those kinds of leaps.


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