Has a minister ever hurt you?
 

How did you get over it? Do you still hurt...are there scars...did it bring about anything good?


Just thought we might help each other....please do not bash those that hurt you but tell us what helped you overcome.

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Naw, I've never been hurt.

...and if I had been, I just take that hurt and stuff it into a little imaginary box and push it to a distant part of my brain. When that part gets full, I simply stomp on it to make room for more "hurt".

So far it has been working out pretty well. So far.

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don't get close enough to let em...LOL Some look at there pastor as a god I just look at mine as a man preaching the word which he has choosen in life for his job.....

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No, I've been blessed. Been badly hurt by a 'saint' or two, though. ;)


If they did, I'd work through the forgiveness process just like I would with anyone else.

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Yes, been hurt before. Wasn't the first time and likely not the last time. I tend to be too trusting and open.

The only way over this is thru forgiveness; understanding that humans are not perfect and there is and will always be flesh and sin that causes conflict and pain.

There have been, and likely will always be moments when I'm reminded of that past and wince from the hurt it caused. Even with forgiveness and moving forward, there are scars.

Incredibly, however, the worst time of my life brought the best of my life. After a long season of hurt, God brought me thru better and stronger than before. I'm in a better place than I was. I've become wiser and have learned through this experience that while leaders and friends fail you ... God will never fail; He'll never leave; He'll never forsake.

It was that time of my life that brought me closer to God ... and I'm thankful for it.

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Sister Alvear,

I was hurt once, and once a Pastor made me angry.
#1 The Pastor who hurt me: I loved he and his wife and have forgiven them. I know they were young, inexperienced, and were reacting from their own insecurities. It took me two years but I think we go through a certain 'issue' time and again to learn a lesson. We continue to go through it until we pass the test. I passed the test and it is finished.

#2 The Pastor who made me angry: I put it into perspective and consider him to have a God-complex and know he will never be successful. He may for a time, but will be brought low due to his pride. In the scheme of things...he has no effect on my person or life so I filed it in 13.:thumbsup

Pastor's are human. Sometimes we set them up to be more than they are, or many times they set themselves up to be more than they are. Either way...they are human like the rest of us and are subject to making wrong decisions and poor choices.

Hope this answers some of your wondering:)
Blessings, Rhoni

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Yes, several times. But I am the common denominator in the eqaution so I am sure that I didn't do things perfectly either. Some of the things I was gotten onto for where at times I followed the leaders instructions, perhaps received too good of a reaction while doing them. But was still gotten on too and I was hurt VERY badly on a few occasions. But God didn't hurt me so I keep serving him and keep the 'leaders' at an arm lengths distance.

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I don't know that I've ever been hurt, but I have suffered through some disappointments. Like someone said, forgiveness is the key to getting over your 'hurt'

Many times, I think we overlook the fact that we might have had a part in the whole scheme of things, and then when we get 'hurt', it's easy to blame the minister. I really get tired of that, but I guess someone has to be the scapegoat.....

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No, thankfully I haven't.

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I have been hurt, but only once. It is forgiven, and we are friends.

I am sure that in the course of our relationship, I probably hurt him many more times than he hurt me.

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Yes and more than once.

How did I overcome? I made sure that I came to God, entered into His presence and allowed Him to love me and show His love for me.

As long as God loves me, I can overcome!

What good came out of it? I learned - "I will not fear what man shall do unto me"

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More hurt by the "movement" than the pastor himself... and life moves on!

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Sometimes it is hard...much harder than most can imagine. I was so hurt about a year ago...however with every passing day i see god working in our favor...

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What men can mean for bad, God can use for good - as in the case of Joseph. You have to love that story. God's working in the pit. He's working in the prison. He's working wherever there is someone seeking Him.

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only my ego :smack


:doggyrun

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When I was VERY young in the Lord (and in my own years) I had a wonderful pastor who also happened to be very, very strict. My parents were not in church and so I was required to live by his rules (unlike some of the kids in the church whose parents were in church and therefore got away with alot more than I ever could). I loved (and still love) this man and his wife dearly. But I will admit that there were many, many times when I was either angry with him for requiring so much or hurt for the same reasons.

At the same time, I was also blessed to have a VERY dear friend who was a real mentor in my life. This lady has remained a dear, dear friend to this day, almost 40 years later. One thing that she helped me to understand was that when I was angry or hurt, I needed to step back and examine the MOTIVE of my pastor.

I truly do not believe that he EVER did or said anything to intentionally hurt me. Or because he was on some power trip. Or anything like that. He did and said what he did and said because he loved me and he loved my soul and sincerely believed that what he was teaching and requiring of me was necessary for my salvation. I heard this man weep my name in prayer more times than I can count. I know for a fact that some of the subjects he had to come to me about were not easy subjects for him to discuss with me. Only love could have made him do what he did.

What did I learn from this? I learned that before I get all hot and bothered at something that someone does or says to me, I need to make sure that I understand what is motivating them.

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so good and so true, Margie.

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Ditto...

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Yep, but no way, no how is any man going to take away my salvation. As much as I've done and am forgiven, I'll always forgive those who have done wrong or hurt me. I just don't see how one can not forgive when they see God's mercy and grace in their own lives.

Besides, we don't usually see what we may have done or it might be that we are over reacting to something. Not always mind you, but it's better to error on the side of eternity and LET God be your God.

Do I always feel this way immediately? No way, but the Lord eventually leads me to this. I like it better when I do it sooner rather than later with anyone, not just the pastor or preacher.

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Yes, I've been hurt by both pastors and saints. Sometimes forgiveness doesn't come easily. In fact, there are still some days that I struggle with the pain that those hurts have brought into my life.

Someone said something in an earlier thread that is soooo true...the common denominator is me, so I first have to examine myself. I'm not perfect...I know shocker for those who know me :)

Seriously, we are all human...if by chance we happen to get hurt by someone, we must realize that we hurt people as well. Someone else also mentioned that they have stepped back and have started to see God's favor. That's what comes when we have truly forgiven and been forgiven as well!

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I heard a great sermon not too long ago on forgiveness. We have always been taught you need to just "forgive" "forgive "forgive" - regardless if the person is sorry for what they have done - HOWEVER, this is really NOT what the bible says - Luke 17:3 "Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. If you have gone to that person and told them how they have hurt you and they are not sorry for it - forgiveness is really not something you have to grant that person. You just have to move on and not let bitterness come into your heart.

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Now that's a word that can really wreck havoc in someone's life...

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Being hurt is part of the process:
beating the olives to get the oil
crushing the flowers to get the perfume.

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Ah! That explains everything! :foottap

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Hurt by a minister? Does being spanked by my dad count?????????:ursofunny

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Breaking a sheep's legs so it can't run away.

Sigh.

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If Joseph had not been sold to Egypt where would his brethren been?
His hurt made him a great leader.
We pray to be like Jesus if we are to be like Him we have to be hurt.

Pain is part of the process and our attitude toward it.

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I'll just step away before.... well, I should just watch the discussion from here on!

:popcorn2

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if being lied to and lied about counts, then yes, but time and forgiveness bring healing, and there is no justification for them even if god does use it for our good, dt

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I agree. While pain and hurt is terrible and sometimes can be spiritually (even physically) fatal - it's necessary to the process of growth.

I believe God allowed my hurt to get me where He needed me to be. Had I continued where I was, I'd be in a rut quite honestly. The church I was at is doing nothing and keeps losing people. Leadership there is seemingly more interested in golfing and cruise trips than the more important things.

So, while it wasn't pleasant, it was necessary and brought me to a better place - both spiritually and naturally as a person.

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Bad experiences either make us better or bitter the outcome is up to us.

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That is so true. may God give us all strength to smile through our struggles and fears.

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Me 2 and I won't even watch it.

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Right ... and I'd rather be better than bitter. As a PK, I've seen what bitterness can do to someone - and I don't want that to happen with me.

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I think it is ok for us to discuss...we help each other doing so...IF we do it in the right spirit.

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so true...sometimes preachers kids see so much...

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Jesus recieved His wounds in the house of His friends. Folks we do not love generally cannot hurt us only those we love and seek their approval and love so generally it is they who hurt us. AND truthfully we have all hurt others and disappointed them. So to hang those who hurt us will put ourselves on the gallows for we too have hurt others.

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so true.

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God has a way of making things right...just the other day I received a surprising phone call...my how tables turn so fast when you leave things up to God.

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You are generally hurt by those you help the most...I have never figures out the just why of that statement but it usually holds true.