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Timmy 05-29-2009 09:13 AM

Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
If He does, how effective are His efforts? Does He lead you into all truth? All truth, really? If so, I suppose everything you believe is correct, no doubt about it! (But what about those other guys? :lol)

*AQuietPlace* 05-29-2009 09:15 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
The other guys just don't know how to listen to God. ;)

Justin 05-29-2009 09:17 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
He will lead you if you are willing to learn. Most times we have too much pride to admit that what we believe could actually be wrong. He will lead us, but more often that not, we'll ignore Him.

Timmy 05-29-2009 09:19 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Aw man, is everyone gonna vote 'something else'? Should have left that one off! ;)

Pragmatist 05-29-2009 09:20 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
He will lead, but if you want all truth, you have to follow.

Timmy 05-29-2009 09:23 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pragmatist (Post 754334)
He will lead, but if you want all truth, you have to follow.

Evertyone says that! And it makes sense, I have to agree. But how can you tell if you have actually followed? You may think you "want all truth" (and I'm not really arguing that you don't -- that would be silly), but can you really say that about those "other guys" I mentioned? E.g., does one party of the AFP debate want truth and the other party not want truth?

Timmy 05-29-2009 09:25 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Well, well. We have two Yeses! All truthers! Congratulations, you two. Hey, why don't you determine the winner of the AFP debate for us? :heeheehee

Digging4Truth 05-29-2009 10:07 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 754339)
Well, well. We have two Yeses! All truthers! Congratulations, you two. Hey, why don't you determine the winner of the AFP debate for us? :heeheehee

Not a Yesser here.... For sure.

Withdrawn 05-29-2009 10:08 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
YES! He will lead. But, he won't drive you into all truth! There's a VAST difference. To be lead, you must be willing to follow. Otherwise you are driven, and that is against your own will. He don't play like that.

Michlow 05-29-2009 10:50 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 754329)
If He does, how effective are His efforts? Does He lead you into all truth? All truth, really? If so, I suppose everything you believe is correct, no doubt about it! (But what about those other guys? :lol)

I'm not sure how to vote. On the one hand, I believe that Yes, he does. But on the other hand, I know I think of it differently then the majority of the people here.

I think that the Holy Spirit leads you to Jesus, and continues to guide you in your relationship with Him. (As I believe that Jesus IS Truth, this constitutes as a yes to your question).

However, I don't think that means that He is a magic-8 ball that will give you all the answers to life, the universe, and everything.

Timmy 05-29-2009 11:00 AM

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42

Michlow 05-29-2009 11:01 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 754392)
42

:heeheehee

I was wondering if anyone was going to catch that!

Falla39 05-29-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
There is an old saying that you can lead a horse to the water. but you can't make
him drink.
In order to be taught, that person must have a teachable spirit. They WANT/DESIRE
to know TRUTH! The teacher or person that is teaching may not know whether the
person being taught has a teachable spirit, but God knows. The understanding of the
person being taught may not be opened IF they are not open to TRUTH. We must be
open and honest to believe and receive as a little child. We must become as a little
child to be converted. Trusting and believing

Blessings,

Falla39

Timmy 05-29-2009 11:56 AM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
4 Yesses, yay!! :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 754336)
Evertyone says that! And it makes sense, I have to agree. But how can you tell if you have actually followed? You may think you "want all truth" (and I'm not really arguing that you don't -- that would be silly), but can you really say that about those "other guys" I mentioned? E.g., does one party of the AFP debate want truth and the other party not want truth?

Don't any of the Yesses want to take a stab at this?

Withdrawn 05-29-2009 01:46 PM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 754406)
4 Yesses, yay!! :thumbsup



Don't any of the Yesses want to take a stab at this?

I was one of the "Yesses" but I should qualify that. I was really answering the question, "Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?" The "Yes" response I selected, however, though the closest one to what I would answer, doesn't capture the meaning of my yes response.

When you created the poll, you created the "Yes, he DID IT perfectly..." response and the "Yes, sometimes..." response. I felt the first one most closely described my belief, but not completely. And the "Yes, sometimes..." is completely inappropriate, IMO.

The "Yes, he DID IT perfectly..." answer suggests (to me) that truth is a destination, or some pinnacle of spiritual revelation that we can somehow obtain or attain in this life. And while, I believe the Holy Spirit is our guide, to lead us into all truth (as the Scripture states), I don't believe it's a destination. It's a journey... a lifelong journey... a matter of "pressing toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus"... that should lead the submitted saint into deeper revelation and deeper walk with Jesus, who IS the Truth.

So, because I am filled with the Holy Spirit, and I'm walking in Truth (Jesus), I'm pressing toward that mark. Not as though I had already attained, but forgetting those things which are behind I reach forward unto those things which are ahead. I'm not there yet. I don't have full understanding. For now, I see through a glass -- darkly. But then... face to Face with the Truth, when my body has been redeemed and my salvation is complete, then YES! The Holy Spirit will have led me into ALL TRUTH! Praise God!

So, sorry! I'm gonna watch the AFP debate from the sidelines. I have my own views, but I'll keep them to myself.

God bless!

Timmy 05-29-2009 02:10 PM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Thanks, Jaamez. :)

Withdrawn 05-29-2009 02:47 PM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 754428)
Thanks, Jaamez. :)

:thumbsup

Truthseeker 05-29-2009 04:29 PM

Re: Does the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 754329)
If He does, how effective are His efforts? Does He lead you into all truth? All truth, really? If so, I suppose everything you believe is correct, no doubt about it! (But what about those other guys? :lol)

All truth today? Don't think so. That scripture was spoken to the apostles, they had all truth.


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