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KWSS1976 06-01-2009 09:16 AM

Anyone besides me tired of the N.Korea games....
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523637,00.html

n david 06-01-2009 11:07 AM

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Get used to it ... at least for the remainder of this BHO administration.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 755274)
Get used to it ... at least for the remainder of this BHO administration.

I think that ignoring without really ignoring NK is the perfect tactic to use on a leader who behaves like a spoiled brat.

n david 06-01-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 755356)
I think that ignoring without really ignoring NK is the perfect tactic to use on a leader who behaves like a spoiled brat.

... until the spoiled brat decides to throw a temper tantrum and nuke a US city or city of a US ally ... kaaa-bloooey! then, of course, the admin would find some way to blame it on the Bush admin or someone else.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 755364)
... until the spoiled brat decides to throw a temper tantrum and nuke a US city or city of a US ally ... kaaa-bloooey! then, of course, the admin would find some way to blame it on the Bush admin or someone else.



You know, I just do not think that the leaders in NK intend to take it that far.


They have to realize that the consequences of such an action would be nothing less than wrath and fury.

Besides, even if they did intend to take it that far, our intelligence would determine that before it happens and we would take the necessary steps to thwart an attack like that.

Do you relaize just how many American troops, Army and Air Force, are stationed in South Korea?

Then you have relatively close Okinawa that has at least 5 bases full of U. S. Marines and the largest AFB in the Pacific...



Like a spoiled little kid, NK knows just how far to push the envelope.

They will back down.

Tina 06-01-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 755369)
Do you relaize just how many American troops, Army and Air Force, are stationed in South Korea?

A young man from our church is stationed on a Naval ship in that area. He contacted his family this morning who was working at the youth camp at our church, asking for a prayer covering for a mission his ship is about to undertake.

It's more serious than people may think.

Pray for our troops.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tina (Post 755372)
A young man from our church is stationed on a Naval ship in that area. He contacted his family this morning who was working at the youth camp at our church, asking for a prayer covering for a mission his ship is about to undertake.

It's more serious than people may think.

Pray for our troops.


Amen!!

n david 06-01-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 755369)
You know, I just do not think that the leaders in NK intend to take it that far.

They have to realize that the consequences of such an action would be nothing less than wrath and fury.

The Japanese were probably aware of the wrath and fury an attack on Pearl Harbor would create ... but that didn't stop them.

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 755369)
Besides, even if they did intend to take it that far, our intelligence would determine that before it happens and we would take the necessary steps to thwart an attack like that.

Our "intelligence" not only didn't work for Pearl Harbor ... but far more recent, seems our intelligence wasn't good enough to thwart 9/11 nor was it able to truly see whether or not Iraq possessed WMD's.

I wouldn't put too much confidence in our intelligence.

I understand somewhat the logic, but I'm afraid you ignore a spoiled brat long enough, and he will do something far more extreme to get your attention ... regardless the consequences ... and it's been well-documented how crazy the NK leader is.

MikeinAR 06-01-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 755382)
The Japanese were probably aware of the wrath and fury an attack on Pearl Harbor would create ... but that didn't stop them.


Our "intelligence" not only didn't work for Pearl Harbor ... but far more recent, seems our intelligence wasn't good enough to thwart 9/11 nor was it able to truly see whether or not Iraq possessed WMD's.

I wouldn't put too much confidence in our intelligence.

I understand somewhat the logic, but I'm afraid you ignore a spoiled brat long enough, and he will do something far more extreme to get your attention ... regardless the consequences ... and it's been well-documented how crazy the NK leader is.

I see our resident Neo-Con has showed up. I'm sure Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz would all agree with you 100%. When in doubt, let's go to war.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 755394)
I see our resident Neo-Con has showed up. I'm sure Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz would all agree with you 100%. When in doubt, let's go to war.


let's "create" a reason because the American public will never understand the truth....

n david 06-02-2009 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 755394)
I see our resident Neo-Con has showed up. I'm sure Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz would all agree with you 100%. When in doubt, let's go to war.

Hmmm .... where did I say we should go to war with NK? Also, to mock the intelligence on WMD's which led to the Iraq war puts me at odds with the three mentioned above, certainly not in their same camp.

All I'm simply saying is you cannot just ignore a spoiled brat indefinitely ... sooner or later, the spoiled brat will push the envelope further to try to get more attention.

Sam 06-02-2009 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 755396)
let's "create" a reason because the American public will never understand the truth....


wasn't Pearl Harbor "created" (or at least allowed to happen) by FDR in order to get the US into a war with Japan?

Praxeas 06-02-2009 02:08 PM

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We should have shot down their first missile and bombed their nuclear facilities.

Jermyn Davidson 06-03-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 755718)
We should have shot down their first missile and bombed their nuclear facilities.

I disagree with this approach.

NK will only go so far. This Korean man is not suicidal.

n david 06-03-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 756112)
I disagree with this approach.

NK will only go so far. This Korean man is not suicidal.

He may not be suicidal ... but he's truly mentally demented. And in his little brain, I'm sure he thinks he has a chance of beating us. That's all that matters. If he thinks he can shoot enough missles at enough targets and inflict maximum damage - maybe he can get BHO's attention.

Praxeas 06-03-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 756112)
I disagree with this approach.

NK will only go so far. This Korean man is not suicidal.

He is delusional. He thinks he is a god and his people look at him that way. He is and has already developed Nukes. He is and has already developed the capacity to hit as far as Alaska. It was suicidal to allow such a regime to have nukes. The more countries that get nukes the more dangerous our world becomes.

Look at Pakistan. Also do you realize that NK can also sell this technology to other nations? Or even to terrorists? NK wants money.

KWSS1976 06-04-2009 06:56 AM

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So much for messing with N.Korea they have leverage now...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525033,00.html

Praxeas 06-04-2009 12:32 PM

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That should not be considered leverage. They knew what they were getting into and it would be stupid to allow a rogue nation to hold the world...or just the US "hostage" like this.

I remember the Iran hostage crisis and the "joke" that went around then. "what is covered in sand and glowing?" "Iran if they touch any of the hostages" or something like that...I think maybe it was glass not sand since the sand would turn to glass.

We have the ability, though our forces are stretched, to inflict great destruction on infrastructure to NK, including nuke facilities, missiles, launch platforms, navy and anything else they have. We can give Kim a black eye with out moving land based forces.

KWSS1976 06-08-2009 09:09 AM

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Yep it will be leverage....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...d-journalists/

n david 06-08-2009 09:17 AM

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Dumb journo's ...


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