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Ron 06-03-2009 12:13 PM

Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
As many of you know, Ryan my 7 year old son called 911 & hung up while my oldest was baby sitting.
I was gone for a half hour & when I got back I found out that the officer who came by made an 8unsubstantiated claim that we as parents were guilty of neglect!!

I got a call from a social worker that there is still an open file open at Social Services in regards to this claim!

I contacted a Lawyer & he said that it would be in my best interests to cooperate with them lest they cause problems for our family!
I will be out of pocket about 400 bucks to pay the lawyer for this one meeting.

Please pray that this will "GO AWAY!"

BTW, Ryan almost got the Holy Ghost on Sunday & in prayer I heard him whisper, "Jesus, forgive me for calli9ng 911!":thumbsup

Thanks & God Bless!

Ron

ILG 06-03-2009 12:22 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Will do, Ron!

Pressing-On 06-03-2009 12:26 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 756159)

Please pray that this will "GO AWAY!"

BTW, Ryan almost got the Holy Ghost on Sunday & in prayer I heard him whisper, "Jesus, forgive me for calli9ng 911!":thumbsup

Thanks & God Bless!

Ron

Praying and it will go away!

Cute prayer! Seriously, it is very beneficial for him to see what pranks can do at an early age, since he is a Dennis the Menace - of sorts! Gotta love him!!! :toofunny

Ron 06-03-2009 12:34 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 756164)
Will do, Ron!

Thank you ILG!
I wish the Social Services would go & investigate someone who needs investigating!

Ron 06-03-2009 12:37 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 756169)
Praying and it will go away!

Cute prayer! Seriously, it is very beneficial for him to see what pranks can do at an early age, since he is a Dennis the Menace - of sorts! Gotta love him!!! :toofunny

Thanks PO!
For sure there are ramifications for pranks & when I got off the phone from the Social Workers Ryan overheard my wife & I discussing this & he became dead quite--totally serious!

Why, oh why did my children end up acting like my wife's side of the family?:foottap

Pressing-On 06-03-2009 12:41 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 756183)
Thanks PO!
For sure there are ramifications for pranks & when I got off the phone from the Social Workers Ryan overheard my wife & I discussing this & he became dead quite--totally serious!

Why, oh why did my children end up acting like my wife's side of the family?:foottap

LOL!

Well, my daughter ran away, once, and Social Services became involved. I was furious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, I told her that if they took her away that, at least, I knew where I would be sleeping - every night -for the rest of my life. She, on the other hand, would not. :toofunny

Anyway, a little time went by and the case was dropped.

Ron 06-03-2009 12:48 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 756189)
LOL!

Well, my daughter ran away, once, and Social Services became involved. I was furious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, I told her that if they took her away that, at least, I knew where I would be sleeping - every night -for the rest of my life. She, on the other hand, would not. :toofunny

Anyway, a little time went by and the case was dropped.

I can understand the furious part, however I think that the Social Services over extend thier mandate & go on "fishing expeditions!":foottap

We have a wife of a minister in our Church who is a Settlement worker for the Vancouver School Board helping new immigrant families in the school system.
She has dealt with the Ministry Of Social Services & agrees they are a pain &
have too much power!:sad

Good for you everything worked out!

Sinatra 06-03-2009 12:51 PM

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Bro. Ron, I'm so sorry you all are going through this. I will be praying.

Sinatra

Pressing-On 06-03-2009 12:52 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 756197)
I can understand the furious part, however I think that the Social Services over extend thier mandate & go on "fishing expeditions!":foottap

We have a wife of a minister in our Church who is a Settlement worker for the Vancouver School Board helping new immigrant families in the school system.
She has dealt with the Ministry Of Social Services & agrees they are a pain &
have too much power!:sad

Good for you everything worked out!

Yes, the certainly do "over extend" themselves!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsdown

Yes, everything did work out well - because God told me it would!!!! He is on the throne and I will not fear what man can do unto me! :thumbsup

Ron 06-03-2009 12:53 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinatra (Post 756201)
Bro. Ron, I'm so sorry you all are going through this. I will be praying.

Sinatra

Thanks!

rgcraig 06-03-2009 02:56 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
You need to tell Ryan that Jesus probably has already forgiven him, but he might want to change his prayer to ask that the social services forgive him - lol!

Sherri 06-03-2009 05:35 PM

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Praying here! God is faithful.

Ron 06-03-2009 05:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 756305)
You need to tell Ryan that Jesus probably has already forgiven him, but he might want to change his prayer to ask that the social services forgive him - lol!

That might be a little harder LOL!

Ron 06-03-2009 05:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 756362)
Praying here! God is faithful.

Thanks Sherri, he is indeed!

tamor 06-03-2009 09:02 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 756305)
You need to tell Ryan that Jesus probably has already forgiven him, but he might want to change his prayer to ask that the social services forgive him - lol!

LOL! Very true....

Praying for ya Ron!

Ron 06-03-2009 10:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tamor (Post 756410)
LOL! Very true....

Praying for ya Ron!

Thanks Tamor!

Falla39 06-04-2009 07:36 AM

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Great and ALMIGHTY LORD GOD!
You see this whole situation regarding this child calling 911. Lord, we've all been
children at one time and did foolish things. We did foolish things because we WERE
children. LORD, it is You that has made us and not we ourselves. We are Your people,
the sheep of YOUR pasture.
Now, LORD GOD, You know that these social workers have become involved and You
know why they have become involved. GREAT and ALMIGHTY LORD GOD, if You would
see fit, deliver Bro. Ron and his family from any further problems regarding this matter.
You are our Father and we depend on You for the things we cannot handle. In JESUS
NAME, we humbly ask these things. Thank You for what You WILL DO regarding this
matter!

Falla39

ILG 06-04-2009 08:48 AM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 756179)
Thank you ILG!
I wish the Social Services would go & investigate someone who needs investigating!

No kidding. Sadly, it looks as if your son feels guilty for causing all of this. It's cute, but they are messing with his little head.

ILG 06-04-2009 08:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 756305)
You need to tell Ryan that Jesus probably has already forgiven him, but he might want to change his prayer to ask that the social services forgive him - lol!

Right you are, Renda.

Has anyone ever told you you are very level headed?? :)

Ron 06-04-2009 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Falla39 (Post 756514)
Great and ALMIGHTY LORD GOD!
You see this whole situation regarding this child calling 911. Lord, we've all been
children at one time and did foolish things. We did foolish things because we WERE
children. LORD, it is You that has made us and not we ourselves. We are Your people,
the sheep of YOUR pasture.
Now, LORD GOD, You know that these social workers have become involved and You
know why they have become involved. GREAT and ALMIGHTY LORD GOD, if You would
see fit, deliver Bro. Ron and his family from any further problems regarding this matter.
You are our Father and we depend on You for the things we cannot handle. In JESUS
NAME, we humbly ask these things. Thank You for what You WILL DO regarding this
matter!

Falla39

Thanks Sis Falla, you are so right, I went to Ryan & hugged him & said that his daddy did some foolish things as a child!:thumbsup

Ron 06-04-2009 09:08 AM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 756546)
No kidding. Sadly, it looks as if your son feels guilty for causing all of this. It's cute, but they are messing with his little head.

He is doing pretty good, I am glad that he realizes the seriousness of what he did, but God will help to work it out!:thumbsup

Ron 06-04-2009 09:10 AM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 756548)
Right you are, Renda.

Has anyone ever told you you are very level headed?? :)

Does this mean she has a flat head?:D

ILG 06-04-2009 09:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 756576)
Does this mean she has a flat head?:D

I have never met Renda. Maybe she does have a flat head. Renda, show us pictures of your head. :)

CC1 06-05-2009 09:29 PM

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Ron,

Your situation reminds me of those situations you read about where some goofy school expels some student for giving a friend a tylonel because they have a "zero tolerance" policy regarding drugs or the elementary school that makes a huge deal about a six year old boy hugging a little girl. This politically correct.....er...feces....drives me crazy.

George 06-05-2009 11:07 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
How old is your oldest who was babysitting while you left the house? You might want to check if your state has an age limit for children being home alone. It varies by state and some states don't give an age. You could possibly have the law on your side. I think in our state a child can be left it there is someone 12 or older in the house.

oletime 06-06-2009 06:11 AM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
been there seen that, because of an anonymous call saying our daughters were locked out of the house in the daytime, if you could imagine that , also that their noses were runny , im not making this up, and the last one that one of our daughters wore the same dress for several days in a row ,guilty, it was her fave and you couldnt pry it off .so two dhs workers showed up and interviewed us and the kids in our little trailer we lived in and it was neat as a pin, the girls were all dressed up, it was pretty obvious there wasnt a problem. they apologized for taking our time and left. never heard from them again. ps one of my daughters is a deacons wife, the other is an evangelizing ministers wife. im sure it will be ok ron , that cop was an stuck on stupid!

Ron 06-12-2009 03:41 PM

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The social worker is here & is interviewing our kids right now!

Pressing-On 06-12-2009 03:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 760173)
The social worker is here & is interviewing our kids right now!

Praying!!!!

Ron 06-12-2009 03:44 PM

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Thanks, she is interviewing them one & a time alone!
My Pastor is there but the parents can not.

I also have a tape recoder taping on the mantle of the fireplace!

Pressing-On 06-12-2009 03:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 760175)
Thanks, she is interviewing them one & a time alone!
My Pastor is there but the parents can not.

I also have a tape recoder taping on the mantle of the fireplace!

Good for you! Do you have to tell them that you have it turned on to use the recording, if you need it?

Ron 06-12-2009 03:50 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 760176)
Good for you! Do you have to tell them that you have it turned on to use the recording, if you need it?

I believe the law in Canada states that as long as one party knows that recording is taking place it is okay.
It is similar to nanny cams, elder cams, & undercover investigations by news & such.

Admissibility in court may depend on the judge!

*AQuietPlace* 06-12-2009 03:57 PM

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Praying!! Your pastor is able to sit in on the interviews?

Ron 06-12-2009 04:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 760178)
Praying!! Your pastor is able to sit in on the interviews?

Thanks!

Yes he can sit in, but not participate.

*AQuietPlace* 06-12-2009 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 760180)
Thanks!

Yes he can sit in, but not participate.

I'm glad he can at least be there.

Keep us updated!

Sinatra 06-12-2009 04:34 PM

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Just saw this Bro. Ron. Praying that all is well!

Sinatra

Ron 06-12-2009 04:36 PM

Re: Ryan, Police, & Social Workers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinatra (Post 760183)
Just saw this Bro. Ron. Praying that all is well!

Sinatra

Thanks, she is talking to my wife right now!

Ron 06-12-2009 05:12 PM

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She just met with my wife & I and I was surprised that she informed us of a B.C. Law that says while corporal punishment is allowed, using a spatula, or spoon is not & a parent could be charged with assault if we do.
We have used a spatula & a spoon in the past.

We usually withdraw thier privileges from Nintendo, or Computer!

Much more effective!

Sinatra 06-12-2009 05:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 760194)
She just met with my wife & I and I was surprised that she informed us of a B.C. Law that says while corporal punishment is allowed, using a spatula, or spoon is not & a parent could be charged with assault if we do.
We have used a spatula & a spoon in the past.

We usually withdraw thier privileges from Nintendo, or Computer!

Much more effective!


Yep, losing priveleges can have a profound effect on behavior! How long before you know something?

*AQuietPlace* 06-12-2009 05:24 PM

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So is it over? Are you clear?

Ron 06-12-2009 05:41 PM

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She has left now & she said that while she does not have any concerns, if there is another complaint, they will reopen the file!


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