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"A revolution is a force against which no power, divine or human, can prevail: whose nature is to be strengthened and to grow by the very resistance which it encounters. A revolution may be directed, moderated, delayed: I have just said that the wisest policy lay in yielding to it, foot by foot, that the perpetual evolution of Humanity may be accomplished insensibly and silently, instead of by mighty strides. A revolution cannot be crushed, cannot be deceived, cannot be perverted, all the more, cannot be conquered. The more you repress it, the more you increase its rebound and render its action irresistible. So much so that it is precisely the same for the triumph of an idea, whether it is persecuted, harassed, beaten down during its beginning, or whether it grows and develops unobstructed. Like the Nemesis of the ancients, whom neither prayers nor threats could move, the revolution advances, with sombre and fatal step, over the flowers cast by its friends, through the blood of its defenders, across the bodies of its enemies."

General Idea of the Revolution in the Nineteenth Century (1851)
by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon


Is this a lesson for the twenty-first century church?

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Should we dam the raging river of liberalism with sandbags of gradualism?

Is it possible to stop the current culture shift within our movement?

Should we try to stop it?

Should we give in to it?

Should we try to "manage" it?

Is this culture shift inevitable?

Is it too late to do anything about it?

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It will change as the old leaves and the new comes in it will change cause the new questions everything and if there is not support to back it up it want fly....

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Dam it.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :largehalo

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LOL! Reminds me of a conversation my wife and I had, talking about what sight-seeing we would do while based in Vegas. Kinda wanted to see the Hoover dam, but the distance, the cost, blah blah. Finally, I said, "oh, let's skip the dam tour!" And so it was settled. :lol

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It is not yet a revolution when we are still discussing the measurement of our action.

We are nearing a time of revolution. The tide has been building for a long time and the spirit of revolution is there for the taking but, thus far, the American people don't want it bad enough yet.

Small signs are being seen... like the county officials that were going to require a permit for home bible study. When we see things that are leading us in bad directions and those things are met with loud and relentless uprising then revolution has begun.

It is not a revolution when we are still measuring our response. It is a revolution when our response can no longer be measured.

When the government fears the people there is freedom. When the people fear the government there is tyranny.

The government does not fear those who discuss actions. The government fears those whose actions are discussed.

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We must earnestly contend for the faith which was once and for all delivered to the saints. (not for the traditions of early 20th century pentecostalizm)

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I thought we were discussing Oneness Pentecostalism. :smack

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hello EA you said in a previous post they changed te platform standards who did they change them for? i understand someone on the board has a mustache ?

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You seem awfully concerned bout this fuzzy faced board menber oletime.

Could I ask you what scriptures you use to decide a mustache or a beard is an infraction against God.

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i didnt say anyhting about how i felt about it you did if people are going to make statenments back it up with facts and names obviously it isnt a secret to most someone said a current board member had one who is it ? this how you stop rumors! btw my dad was a upc pioneer minster and was until his passing on and i still consider myself upc definitely not a liberal but not so called ultra con either !

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What else would you like to know? Ask away.

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like the old detective said ,just the facts mam just the facts

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It is? :hmmm

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Now that's a steal from the Griswald's Vegas Vacation...

I remember the dam tour well... LOL!

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Yeah, I thought of that just as I said it! :lol

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The government does not fear those who discuss actions. The government fears those whose actions are discussed.[/QUOTE]



Today's laws fight "terrorism".


Tomorrow's laws will fight "christian terrorism".



The change in the laws will not be drastic for this to occur, when it occurs.