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CAD/JPY 06-06-2009 02:57 PM

Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Hello all,

I told my wife this morning, that if I was to really believe a women must have long, UNCUT hair, then after reading the "Holiness for Men" article, I really truly feel like I would have a new conviction to keep my head shaved, and wear a beard.

If I as a minister am going to hold a standard of long uncut hair for woman, based on my style of interpreting scripture, then how can I do anything less than preach a standard of shaved or shorn heads for men, and they wear a beard for separation of the sexes??

Seriously, how could you in good conscience, preach/teach any different??

RandyWayne 06-06-2009 03:01 PM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CAD/JPY (Post 757626)
Hello all,

I told my wife this morning, that if I was to really believe a women must have long, UNCUT hair, then after reading the "Holiness for Men" article, I really truly feel like I would have a new conviction to keep my head shaved, and wear a beard.

If I as a minister am going to hold a standard of long uncut hair for woman, based on my style of interpreting scripture, then how can I do anything less than preach a standard of shaved or shorn heads for men, and they wear a beard for separation of the sexes??

Seriously, how could you in good conscience, preach/teach any different??

You forgot wearing the robe while slowly walking around, chanting, and occasionally hitting your head with a board.

ChTatum 06-06-2009 05:35 PM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Well, I used to have a full beard, and my hair is departing on its' own......I MUST BE GOD-ORDAINED HOLY!

Praxeas 06-07-2009 10:57 PM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CAD/JPY (Post 757626)
Hello all,

I told my wife this morning, that if I was to really believe a women must have long, UNCUT hair, then after reading the "Holiness for Men" article, I really truly feel like I would have a new conviction to keep my head shaved, and wear a beard.

If I as a minister am going to hold a standard of long uncut hair for woman, based on my style of interpreting scripture, then how can I do anything less than preach a standard of shaved or shorn heads for men, and they wear a beard for separation of the sexes??

Seriously, how could you in good conscience, preach/teach any different??

If they have long uncut hair, why do I need to be completely bald in order to have a separation of sexes....BTW it's not a separation but a distinction...that is IF the whole issue of hair is about a distinction of sexes...WHICH IT IS NOT. So your entire point is moot.

*AQuietPlace* 06-08-2009 07:05 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 758060)
IF the whole issue of hair is about a distinction of sexes...WHICH IT IS NOT.

What is it about?

clgustaveson 06-08-2009 07:12 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 757698)
Well, I used to have a full beard, and my hair is departing on its' own......I MUST BE GOD-ORDAINED HOLY!

Logical...

Timmy 06-08-2009 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 758060)
If they have long uncut hair, why do I need to be completely bald in order to have a separation of sexes....BTW it's not a separation but a distinction...that is IF the whole issue of hair is about a distinction of sexes...WHICH IT IS NOT. So your entire point is moot.

Short of shaving, there is another consistent approach to the hair standard: women never cut their hair, and men cut their hair.

Since, as those who hold to the standard claim, a woman cutting her hair even once is a violation, then men cutting theirs once should be enough. Doesn't matter how often or how much. Even if it's just a half inch shorter, it's fine. :winkgrin

Michlow 06-08-2009 08:05 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 758128)
Short of shaving, there is another consistent approach to the hair standard: women never cut their hair, and men cut their hair.

Since, as those who hold to the standard claim, a woman cutting her hair even once is a violation, then men cutting theirs once should be enough. Doesn't matter how often or how much. Even if it's just a half inch shorter, it's fine. :winkgrin

You know, it's really unfair. Eve ate one stupid piece of fruit, and women have been punished ever since! They have all the standards! They have all the icky hormonal, cramps, childbirth junk. Not to mention how they are clearly inferior to men and always need to be controlled and bossed around! God must like Men better!

(Good think I don't believe that or I would be really depressed!!)

Timmy 06-08-2009 08:09 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 758132)
You know, it's really unfair. Eve ate one stupid piece of fruit, and women have been punished ever since! They have all the standards! They have all the icky hormonal, cramps, childbirth junk. Not to mention how they are clearly inferior to men and always need to be controlled and bossed around! God must like Men better!

(Good think I don't believe that or I would be really depressed!!)

You think you've got it bad? Us men, why, we gotta .... um,.... we have to uh .... well ... oh, I got it: We have to work really hard to think of ways we're worse off than women! :lol

Glenda B 06-08-2009 08:20 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CAD/JPY (Post 757626)
Hello all,

I told my wife this morning, that if I was to really believe a women must have long, UNCUT hair, then after reading the "Holiness for Men" article, I really truly feel like I would have a new conviction to keep my head shaved, and wear a beard.

If I as a minister am going to hold a standard of long uncut hair for woman, based on my style of interpreting scripture, then how can I do anything less than preach a standard of shaved or shorn heads for men, and they wear a beard for separation of the sexes??

Seriously, how could you in good conscience, preach/teach any different??



:beatdeadhorse

Dordrecht 06-08-2009 08:52 AM

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I think we should all wear sandals and white dresses.

RevOpinion 06-08-2009 09:10 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CAD/JPY (Post 757626)
Hello all,

I told my wife this morning, that if I was to really believe a women must have long, UNCUT hair, then after reading the "Holiness for Men" article, I really truly feel like I would have a new conviction to keep my head shaved, and wear a beard.

If I as a minister am going to hold a standard of long uncut hair for woman, based on my style of interpreting scripture, then how can I do anything less than preach a standard of shaved or shorn heads for men, and they wear a beard for separation of the sexes??

Seriously, how could you in good conscience, preach/teach any different??

I think CAD/JPY should admit to writing the Holiness for Men article.

Hoovie 06-08-2009 09:31 AM

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Does anyone have an official position on shaving arms and armpits?? Is it good bad or ugly?

*AQuietPlace* 06-08-2009 09:35 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 758171)
Does anyone have an official position on shaving arms and armpits?? Is it good bad or ugly?

Well, there are some churches that don't allow it. Or shaved legs.

My official position is that it's mandatory. For women. :D

(oh, wait, not shaved arms.... unless you have really hairy, man-looking arms ;))

Hoovie 06-08-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 758178)
Well, there are some churches that don't allow it. Or shaved legs.

My official position is that it's mandatory. For women. :D

(oh, wait, not shaved arms.... unless you have really hairy, man-looking arms ;))

Perhaps you are Islamic.

Wikpedia

"Trimming or completely removing pubic hair has become a custom in many cultures. In Islamic societies, for example, removing the pubic hair is a religiously endorsed practice."

Praxeas 06-08-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 758100)
What is it about?

If you pay attention to the threads opposing "magic Hair" you would have read this already/

Paul starts off with
1Co 11:3 But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.

1Co 11:7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.
1Co 11:8 For man was not made from woman, but woman from man.
1Co 11:9 Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
1Co 11:10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.

Notice verse 10..."that is why". refers to the antecedent subject being discussed.

It is a symbol of authority, symbolizing Order of creation and headship.

1Co 11:15 but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering.

Praxeas 06-08-2009 11:33 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 758132)
You know, it's really unfair. Eve ate one stupid piece of fruit, and women have been punished ever since! They have all the standards! They have all the icky hormonal, cramps, childbirth junk. Not to mention how they are clearly inferior to men and always need to be controlled and bossed around! God must like Men better!

(Good think I don't believe that or I would be really depressed!!)

Try being a guy and having to LIVE with a woman with all the icky hormonal, cramps and childbirth junk.

Scott Hutchinson 06-08-2009 11:33 AM

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I trim my nose and ear hairs. I do own a pair of tweezers.

Praxeas 06-08-2009 11:34 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 758171)
Does anyone have an official position on shaving arms and armpits?? Is it good bad or ugly?

women must shave their armpits....Yes! That is a must...and their legs.

Scott Hutchinson 06-08-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 758270)
Try being a guy and having to LIVE with a woman with all the icky hormonal, cramps and childbirth junk.

Don't forget menopause it will make you sings the blues.:sad

Praxeas 06-08-2009 11:35 AM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 758186)
Perhaps you are Islamic.

Wikpedia

"Trimming or completely removing pubic hair has become a custom in many cultures. In Islamic societies, for example, removing the pubic hair is a religiously endorsed practice."

Brazilian? What? Did you just post that?

*AQuietPlace* 06-08-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 758269)
If you pay attention to the threads opposing "magic Hair" you would have read this already/
.

I pay close attention to those threads, but that doesn't mean I remember who says what. :) So I didn't remember your philosophy about hair.

Praxeas 06-08-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 758288)
I pay close attention to those threads, but that doesn't mean I remember who says what. :) So I didn't remember your philosophy about hair.

I'm hurt. Here I thought everyone paid attention to my every words.... RENDA???? I think Renda has me on ignore

Sam 06-08-2009 03:58 PM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 758132)
You know, it's really unfair. Eve ate one stupid piece of fruit, and women have been punished ever since! They have all the standards! They have all the icky hormonal, cramps, childbirth junk. Not to mention how they are clearly inferior to men and always need to be controlled and bossed around! God must like Men better!

(Good think I don't believe that or I would be really depressed!!)

My wife would say that's because God is a man.

Sam 06-08-2009 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 758171)
Does anyone have an official position on shaving arms and armpits?? Is it good bad or ugly?

Steve, don't ask and don't tell.
Don't tell me whether you shave arms and armpits and I won't ask.

Sam 06-08-2009 04:06 PM

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what about manscaping?

Hoovie 06-08-2009 04:12 PM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 758276)
Brazilian? What? Did you just post that?

Brazilian? What does that have to do with it? :foottap

Jermyn Davidson 06-08-2009 04:23 PM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chtatum (Post 757698)
well, i used to have a full beard, and my hair is departing on its' own......i must be god-ordained holy!



lol


:) :) :) :)

Praxeas 06-08-2009 06:25 PM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 758394)
Brazilian? What does that have to do with it? :foottap

good grief....Im afraid to tell you now

Scott Hutchinson 06-08-2009 06:34 PM

Re: Shave my Head, Wear a Beard - New Conviction?
 
I didn't know that removing public hair is a custom in many countries.
Learn something new everyday.

Fiyahstarter 06-08-2009 06:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 758432)
I didn't know that removing public hair is a custom in many countries.
Learn something new everyday.

Public hairs should remain private. :ursofunny

Praxeas 06-08-2009 10:53 PM

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pubic, not public

Sam 06-09-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 758539)
pubic, not public



Yes, there is a difference (for some) between public hair and pubic hair.


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