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Esther 06-09-2009 06:54 AM
If you had no Electricity could you live?
 
A friend and I was talking this past week about being prepared if we were to lose all electricity. She said she was preparing now to be able to do that. I asked her what kind of things was she doing, what was she buying.

Her short list was a coffee pot that you would use if you were camping, and a manual can opener. Oh, and a grill to cook on.

I thought that was a pretty short list.

What would you think would be needed to survive without electricity?

Lighting is an area I think you would need to address. Candles can get expensive if you need them for a long period of time. I think the oil lamps are a more ecomonical way and gives better light. My husband and I are arguing over the buring of either of these are he believes they smoke up the ceiling, and I am talking little candles, here. :)

If you have gas then you can still cook, if not then yes you would need a grill with lots of charcoal/wood.

If you are like me and are on a well, no electricity means no water. :(

Maybe ILG can help us here. :)

Baron1710 06-09-2009 07:00 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 758563)
A friend and I was talking this past week about being prepared if we were to lose all electricity. She said she was preparing now to be able to do that. I asked her what kind of things was she doing, what was she buying.

Her short list was a coffee pot that you would use if you were camping, and a manual can opener. Oh, and a grill to cook on.

I thought that was a pretty short list.

What would you think would be needed to survive without electricity?

Lighting is an area I think you would need to address. Candles can get expensive if you need them for a long period of time. I think the oil lamps are a more ecomonical way and gives better light. My husband and I are arguing over the buring of either of these are he believes they smoke up the ceiling, and I am talking little candles, here. :)

If you have gas then you can still cook, if not then yes you would need a grill with lots of charcoal/wood.

If you are like me and are on a well, no electricity means no water. :(

Maybe ILG can help us here. :)
We are on a well too, and we have had the power go out for long periods twice in the last few years. No water also means the toilets only flush once, but we have a swimming pool and a bucket to fix that problem and we have about 20 gallons of bottled water to drink and use for cooking. Once the power was out for about four days, other than the water and the inability to cool the house it wasn't too bad, (the other time was in the winter and we have a wood stove) I have a plastic tub full of camping gear that comes up from the basement during those times.

Digging4Truth 06-09-2009 07:09 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 758563)
A friend and I was talking this past week about being prepared if we were to lose all electricity. She said she was preparing now to be able to do that. I asked her what kind of things was she doing, what was she buying.

Her short list was a coffee pot that you would use if you were camping, and a manual can opener. Oh, and a grill to cook on.

I thought that was a pretty short list.

What would you think would be needed to survive without electricity?

Lighting is an area I think you would need to address. Candles can get expensive if you need them for a long period of time. I think the oil lamps are a more ecomonical way and gives better light. My husband and I are arguing over the buring of either of these are he believes they smoke up the ceiling, and I am talking little candles, here. :)

If you have gas then you can still cook, if not then yes you would need a grill with lots of charcoal/wood.

If you are like me and are on a well, no electricity means no water. :(

Maybe ILG can help us here. :)
We are going to have a well drilled before long. We are going to have a small solar system put in place to power the well. It would, of necessity, have to be a solar system that charged a battery bank and needed electricity to run the well would come from the battery bank.

That is something you might want to consider.

We decided that we could live, albeit inconveniently, without electricity... but we cannot live without water.

Esther 06-09-2009 07:19 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 758571)
We are going to have a well drilled before long. We are going to have a small solar system put in place to power the well. It would, of necessity, have to be a solar system that charged a battery bank and needed electricity to run the well would come from the battery bank.

That is something you might want to consider.

We decided that we could live, albeit inconveniently, without electricity... but we cannot live without water.
Can an existing well be modified for a solar system?

Tina 06-09-2009 07:24 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 758563)
A friend and I was talking this past week about being prepared if we were to lose all electricity. She said she was preparing now to be able to do that. I asked her what kind of things was she doing, what was she buying.

Her short list was a coffee pot that you would use if you were camping, and a manual can opener. Oh, and a grill to cook on.

I thought that was a pretty short list.

What would you think would be needed to survive without electricity?

Lighting is an area I think you would need to address. Candles can get expensive if you need them for a long period of time. I think the oil lamps are a more ecomonical way and gives better light. My husband and I are arguing over the buring of either of these are he believes they smoke up the ceiling, and I am talking little candles, here. :)

If you have gas then you can still cook, if not then yes you would need a grill with lots of charcoal/wood.

If you are like me and are on a well, no electricity means no water. :(

Maybe ILG can help us here. :)


We have several of the wind up flashlights for lighting. We also have a couple of coleman lanterns, a couple of oil lamps, and at least a dozen jar candles. We have a wind up radio that will keep us informed of anything that's going on (if the radio stations have back up generators to broadcast with).

We have a coleman camp stove and a gas grill for cooking. We also have a couple of dutch ovens and other things that can be used for cooking on an open fire.

I lost count of how many two liter bottles I have filled with water. We also have a pool that would become an emergency water source if needed.

You would also need foods that didn't require refrigeration. Things like TVP, dehydrated butter, etc can be purchased www.emergencyessentials.com

I'll post my list of emergency supplies later. I am needing to get ready to take the kids to youth camp to check in at 9am.

Digging4Truth 06-09-2009 07:29 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tina (Post 758586)
We have several of the wind up flashlights for lighting. We also have a couple of coleman lanterns, a couple of oil lamps, and at least a dozen jar candles. We have a wind up radio that will keep us informed of anything that's going on (if the radio stations have back up generators to broadcast with).

We have a coleman camp stove and a gas grill for cooking. We also have a couple of dutch ovens and other things that can be used for cooking on an open fire.

I lost count of how many two liter bottles I have filled with water. We also have a pool that would become an emergency water source if needed.

You would also need foods that didn't require refrigeration. Things like TVP, dehydrated butter, etc can be purchased www.emergencyessentials.com

I'll post my list of emergency supplies later. I am needing to get ready to take the kids to youth camp to check in at 9am.
www.freezedryguy.com is another good place.

Esther 06-09-2009 07:30 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tina (Post 758586)
We have several of the wind up flashlights for lighting. We also have a couple of coleman lanterns, a couple of oil lamps, and at least a dozen jar candles. We have a wind up radio that will keep us informed of anything that's going on (if the radio stations have back up generators to broadcast with).

We have a coleman camp stove and a gas grill for cooking. We also have a couple of dutch ovens and other things that can be used for cooking on an open fire.

I lost count of how many two liter bottles I have filled with water. We also have a pool that would become an emergency water source if needed.

You would also need foods that didn't require refrigeration. Things like TVP, dehydrated butter, etc can be purchased www.emergencyessentials.com

I'll post my list of emergency supplies later. I am needing to get ready to take the kids to youth camp to check in at 9am.
Wind up flashlight sounds interesting, did you get that at a camping store? Maybe I need to visit one soon. We are in hurricane season and last year we were without electricity for a good while. We do have a generator but you can't run it 24/7.

Digging4Truth 06-09-2009 07:31 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 758582)
Can an existing well be modified for a solar system?
You won't have to modify the well system at all. You just need to know the electrical demands of the well on an ongoing basis and get a solar system capable of keeping up with it.

I assume it is AC Current... you only need to put an inverter between the batteries and the well pump and the pump will never know the difference.

Esther 06-09-2009 07:31 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Have you looked into a water filtering system?

ILG 06-09-2009 08:12 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 758563)
A friend and I was talking this past week about being prepared if we were to lose all electricity. She said she was preparing now to be able to do that. I asked her what kind of things was she doing, what was she buying.

Her short list was a coffee pot that you would use if you were camping, and a manual can opener. Oh, and a grill to cook on.

I thought that was a pretty short list.

What would you think would be needed to survive without electricity?

Lighting is an area I think you would need to address. Candles can get expensive if you need them for a long period of time. I think the oil lamps are a more ecomonical way and gives better light. My husband and I are arguing over the buring of either of these are he believes they smoke up the ceiling, and I am talking little candles, here. :)

If you have gas then you can still cook, if not then yes you would need a grill with lots of charcoal/wood.

If you are like me and are on a well, no electricity means no water. :(

Maybe ILG can help us here. :)
Well, ideally, you get a windmill and solar panels and make your own electricity and SELL what you don't use to the electric comapany. :D

Esther 06-09-2009 08:53 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILG (Post 758621)
Well, ideally, you get a windmill and solar panels and make your own electricity and SELL what you don't use to the electric comapany. :D
Yeah. I think the windmills start around $70,000.00 and some places outlaw them. :)

John Atkinson 06-09-2009 08:59 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Survive, yes. Live? Eh, depends on the definition of living.

But hey, I got the complete set of Foxfire books, detailed hillbilly wisdom on just about everything. So I could survive.

Living requires internet access and cell phone coverage...:D

Digging4Truth 06-09-2009 09:00 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 758662)
Yeah. I think the windmills start around $70,000.00 and some places outlaw them. :)
Those are the HUGE ones. There are smaller ones. Not all areas are suited for windmills either. The area where I live is not rated as having sufficient wind for a windmill to pay off.

One can check their area by checking into a wind resource map like this one

John Atkinson 06-09-2009 09:02 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 758662)
Yeah. I think the windmills start around $70,000.00 and some places outlaw them. :)
Actually, you can set up a wind power station for about $2,000.
http://www.amazon.com/Sunforce-44447...4559637&sr=8-8

missourimary 06-09-2009 09:29 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Yes, I could and have lived without electricity, though after the last week, I have altered plans a bit...

food (canned goods, fruit trees, stock piles of meat that would need to be used fairly quickly...)
hand powered can opener
candles and coal oil lamp (ahem and wicks and coal oil...)
battery powered radio that I rarely turn on if the power is off anyway.
Extra blankets and warm clothes.
Cudly cat for more extra heat. :)
Car phone charger.
Container and wood for cooking outside.
A couple of Sterno's-the cans with fuel in them that warm food at banquets.
Gas wall heater that has no electronic ignition and will heat a room without the blower if necessary.
Matches.

I live in the city so I don't have to worry about the well, but most gas stoves now are electronic ignition, so if there is no power, the stove is off anyway...
My dad would insist on flashlights... ok I have flashlights (thanks to dad) but no batteries!


My wish list:
A farm so I'd have eggs and animals and lots of homegrown veggies and fruit.
Partially in ground, well insulated house with a fireplace on the farm so I'd have wood heat and could cook in the fireplace.
A different insurance company so I could have a wood heater and still have an insured house.
Solar water heater-you can make your own and they are neat, but I can't make one in city limits, especially in the front yard...
Well for my farm.
Solar panels.
Greenhouse.
Smaller house (less difficult to heat and cool).
A clothes line, a wringer washer, a wood stove, 40 acres, a horse, a cow, chickens, goats, and a cold underground stream if we are talking about years.

May I suggest a hammock in the summer? Much cooler than a bed-nothing to hold body heat against you. And the real ones from South and Central America are extremely comfortable.

this is another good website:
http://www.lehmans.com
Its owned or influenced heavily by Mennonite/Amish.

RandyWayne 06-09-2009 09:51 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
I figure if the Castaways could live on an island for 15 years, I could survive a day or two without electricity. Now could I survive MORE then 2 days?

Let me think about that.....

MissBrattified 06-09-2009 09:55 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Sure. If you can kill animals for food, build a fire to boil water, find shade when it's hot, and pile on blankets when it's cold, I think survival is a good possibility. ;)

RandyWayne 06-09-2009 10:01 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 758699)
Sure. If you can kill animals for food, build a fire to boil water, find shade when it's hot, and pile on blankets when it's cold, I think survival is a good possibility. ;)
Les Stroud does it all the time!
(And with NO camera crew!)

ILG 06-09-2009 10:04 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 758695)
I figure if the Castaways could live on an island for 15 years, I could survive a day or two without electricity. Now could I survive MORE then 2 days?

Let me think about that.....
Don't forget the people on Gilligan's Island! They wuz LIVIN'! ;)

ILG 06-09-2009 10:05 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Do you know how to butcher a deer? Would you eat squirrel? Turtle? Rabbit? Whatever it took?

Timmy 06-09-2009 10:07 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILG (Post 758621)
Well, ideally, you get a windmill and solar panels and make your own electricity and SELL what you don't use to the electric comapany. :D
We looked into solar panels for the house we had built a couple years ago. Didn't seem cost effective, but now we're kinda wishing we'd gone ahead with it. It would take a long time to pay for itself, but if rates go sky high down the road, that's another story. I think there are tax incentives to help with the cost, too.

Timmy 06-09-2009 10:12 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Could I live without electricity at all? No solar, no nothin'? Dunno. I'll give it a try and post progress reports. Oh. Wait. Never mind!

missourimary 06-09-2009 10:19 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILG (Post 758704)
Do you know how to butcher a deer? Would you eat squirrel? Turtle? Rabbit? Whatever it took?
Yes, I can and have butchered dear. And yes, if I had to and were capable (ie had a tool to do it), I'd kill and eat squirrel, rabbit, turkey, turtle (don't know how to kill that one), locusts... if we were hungry enough, we might all be surprised what we would eat! Fish would actually be my first choice though.

ILG 06-09-2009 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 758712)
Yes, I can and have butchered dear. And yes, if I had to and were capable (ie had a tool to do it), I'd kill and eat squirrel, rabbit, turkey, turtle (don't know how to kill that one), locusts... if we were hungry enough, we might all be surprised what we would eat! Fish would actually be my first choice though.
LOL! Here's how you kill a turtle, at least this is how my Dad did it when I was little. You hold it by the tail andshoot it in the head and hang it upside down. These were snappers and they were fairly large.

missourimary 06-09-2009 10:25 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 758709)
Could I live without electricity at all? No solar, no nothin'? Dunno. I'll give it a try and post progress reports. Oh. Wait. Never mind!
You could always walk down to the local library. :thumbsup

I'd like to live off the grid, at least for a while. Would it be hard? It could be. Would it be impossible? No. Some people live off the grid very productively and enjoy it. It takes some planning though.

missourimary 06-09-2009 10:27 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILG (Post 758714)
LOL! Here's how you kill a turtle, at least this is how my Dad did it when I was little. You hold it by the tail andshoot it in the head and hang it upside down. These were snappers and they were fairly large.
Dumb question: What if they hide their head in the shell?? Knock and say, "anybody home???"

Tina 06-09-2009 10:28 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Esther, I purchased the wind up lights from amazon.com -- Flashlights that require batteries wouldn't be reliable for long term power outages. Impossible to buy enough batteries to last indefinitely. The lights that I purchased also have an adapter for a cell phone-- (not that I think we'd be able to use cell phones in the event of a major long term power outage)

Just a sample from my survival supply list:

I purchased an old washtub for $5 from the estate of a neighbor who recently passed away. That would take care of laundry washing. I have clotheslines that I use on sunny days anyway. I do need a better way of wringing out the laundry if I had to resort to hand washing though.

Cooking/lighting was covered in the post above.

For drinking/cooking water-- rinse 2 liter soda bottles well and fill them with water. Add a couple of drops of bleach to each bottle. Do not recycle milk jugs to store water, because they break down over time and will leak or allow water to become contaminated.

We have a portable propane heater as a backup source of heat.

Extra quilts & sleeping bags for colder weather.

Good sturdy shoes for every member of the family. Imagine having to hike for a while to hunt animals for meat. Definitely want supportive shoes.

Plenty of emergency medical supplies. Extra OTC meds and prescriptions. Lots of herbal products that would replace Prescriptions when they run out. Suture kits, butterfly bandages, peroxide, alcohol, alcohol wipes, Even a couple of emergency dental filling kits.

Antibacterial hand sanitizer.

Several tubs of baby wipes.

A couple of boxes of medical gloves.

Plenty of non-perishable food items -- Oatmeal, beans, rice, evaporated milk or shelf stable milk, canned meats, trail mix, cheese crackers, peanut butter, spices to season beans & rice, presweetened koolaid or instant tea mix-- you'll get tired of water, comfort foods... I chose chocolate chips because they can be used more than one way. A few of those tossed into homemade muffin mix and baked in a makeshift solar oven would definitely be comforting... my food list is much longer than this, but you get the idea. Do NOT keep your emergency food stock with other foods... store it in safe place known only to your immediate family. If times get really bad, people will go to great lengths for food....

Also... prepare an emergency kit for your cars. Change of clothing and shoes for each person in your house, basic medical supplies, -- food and water supply for at least three days. (trail mix, granola bars, a few things that require no cooking-- just open it and eat) You never know when something might happen that you may be stranded away from home and need those things.

I'm not a fanatic-- I just like to be prepared. I live in Tornado country.... so far, we've been very blessed and not needed any of the preparations that I keep on hand. I pray that continues to be the case.

ILG 06-09-2009 10:29 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 758716)
Dumb question: What if they hide their head in the shell?? Knock and say, "anybody home???"
Maybe the thing was trying to bite him while he shot it? I'm not quite sure. I just know that he would hang it upside down to drain the blood and that it had a bullet hole in the head. Nasty. Bleah.

Digging4Truth 06-09-2009 10:35 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 758706)
We looked into solar panels for the house we had built a couple years ago. Didn't seem cost effective, but now we're kinda wishing we'd gone ahead with it. It would take a long time to pay for itself, but if rates go sky high down the road, that's another story. I think there are tax incentives to help with the cost, too.
Yep.... as they catch on more and more the prices go down and the stated and federal incentives are getting heftier as well.

Hoovie 06-09-2009 10:39 AM
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One can eat just about anything if need be... we have an annual "Testicle Festival" in our area. LOL!

Funny this year it was 6/6/09 - on our anniversary! :blush

missourimary 06-09-2009 10:44 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Thanks ILG, I think I'll stick with furry creatures and fruits and veggies. Who am I kidding? Maybe I'd be a vegan... I couldn't even kill a gardner snake that was on my driveway last fall! Put him in a bucket and carried him to the woods...

I also keep a garden, complete with basic herbs, and several herbal health books that explain natural remedies, give plant descriptions, and make alternative suggestions for supplies we normally use. ie spider webs stuck on a wound can help stop bleeding. Mint is good for stomach aches (and it works pretty well for tension headaches and bug repellant for me). Mulberries are a natural laxative, and dandelions are a natural diuretic. Sage for sleeping. Lambs ear is good for something... I'd just have to get out a candle and look that up.

I don't get sick that much, and have no real medical problems, so that makes a difference.

I'm experimenting with not turning the lights (thats the only daily electric in my house in the summer except cell phone chargers) on at night for the summer. Don't know how it will work, but I stay up too late with the lights on and live by myself so there isn't anyone to complain. With daylight lasting til 9:00 and past, I figure if dark is inconvenient maybe I should be doing something else (ie sleep, Mary, sleep! That's what night is for!!!) I tried it last night. I still stayed up til 11:30, but I woke up much more easily this morning and haven't been tired yet today like I normally am. So we'll see.

I'd love to be able to turn the power off in the summer. Last bill: appx $25. appx $7 for electric usage, the rest in taxes and fees.

ILG 06-09-2009 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 758729)
Thanks ILG, I think I'll stick with furry creatures and fruits and veggies. Who am I kidding? Maybe I'd be a vegan... I couldn't even kill a gardner snake that was on my driveway last fall! Put him in a bucket and carried him to the woods...

I also keep a garden, complete with basic herbs, and several herbal health books that explain natural remedies, give plant descriptions, and make alternative suggestions for supplies we normally use. ie spider webs stuck on a wound can help stop bleeding. Mint is good for stomach aches (and it works pretty well for tension headaches and bug repellant for me). Mulberries are a natural laxative, and dandelions are a natural diuretic. Sage for sleeping. Lambs ear is good for something... I'd just have to get out a candle and look that up.

I don't get sick that much, and have no real medical problems, so that makes a difference.

I'm experimenting with not turning the lights (thats the only daily electric in my house in the summer except cell phone chargers) on at night for the summer. Don't know how it will work, but I stay up too late with the lights on and live by myself so there isn't anyone to complain. With daylight lasting til 9:00 and past, I figure if dark is inconvenient maybe I should be doing something else (ie sleep, Mary, sleep! That's what night is for!!!) I tried it last night. I still stayed up til 11:30, but I woke up much more easily this morning and haven't been tired yet today like I normally am. So we'll see.

I'd love to be able to turn the power off in the summer. Last bill: appx $25. appx $7 for electric usage, the rest in taxes and fees.
Them thar taxes and fees will set you back!!

missourimary 06-09-2009 11:19 AM
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Extortion, plain and simple!!

Ron 06-09-2009 11:24 AM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
How about you no have good grammar title for?:hmmm

Seriously, I would explore Solar Panels & not just any Solar Panels.
Some are more effecient than the others, I would look at what Bro Hoover mentioned a shack in your back yard that runs on wood & can heat your water & house.
Wind power is okay too.

Do you have access to plentiful supply of firewood?
Do Hurricanes, or Tornadoes frequent your area?
All these things need to be considered before you decide.

Also, a lot of these need an initial outlay of large amounts of money that is paid off as time goes on, so it is a long term commitment before you see a ROI!

RandyWayne 06-09-2009 12:11 PM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 758729)
Thanks ILG, I think I'll stick with furry creatures and fruits and veggies. Who am I kidding? Maybe I'd be a vegan... I couldn't even kill a gardner snake that was on my driveway last fall! Put him in a bucket and carried him to the woods...

I also keep a garden, complete with basic herbs, and several herbal health books that explain natural remedies, give plant descriptions, and make alternative suggestions for supplies we normally use. ie spider webs stuck on a wound can help stop bleeding. Mint is good for stomach aches (and it works pretty well for tension headaches and bug repellant for me). Mulberries are a natural laxative, and dandelions are a natural diuretic. Sage for sleeping. Lambs ear is good for something... I'd just have to get out a candle and look that up.

I don't get sick that much, and have no real medical problems, so that makes a difference.

I'm experimenting with not turning the lights (thats the only daily electric in my house in the summer except cell phone chargers) on at night for the summer. Don't know how it will work, but I stay up too late with the lights on and live by myself so there isn't anyone to complain. With daylight lasting til 9:00 and past, I figure if dark is inconvenient maybe I should be doing something else (ie sleep, Mary, sleep! That's what night is for!!!) I tried it last night. I still stayed up til 11:30, but I woke up much more easily this morning and haven't been tired yet today like I normally am. So we'll see.

I'd love to be able to turn the power off in the summer. Last bill: appx $25. appx $7 for electric usage, the rest in taxes and fees.
I would be writing to my Senator (or at least Obama or Oprah) if I were you. This is pure highway robbery!


LOL


And while your writing, can you do something about our $289 July and $275 August bills? LOL

Timmy 06-09-2009 02:02 PM
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Oh yeah, air conditioning. This experiment, living with no electricity, will have to wait till October, or so. ;)

BTW, our new house, built in 2006, is twice as big as our old one (built in the 70s), but our summer electric bill is actually less now. Better insulation and more efficient a/c units make a huge difference.

Timmy 06-09-2009 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 758899)
Oh yeah, air conditioning. This experiment, living with no electricity, will have to wait till October, or so. ;)

BTW, our new house, built in 2006, is twice as big as our old one (built in the 70s), but our summer electric bill is actually less now. Better insulation and more efficient a/c units make a huge difference.
Oh yeah, the theater. The experiment is on hold, indefinitely! :winkgrin (Just outfitting it now, finally! Projector, screen, the whole bit. Wasn't as expensive as I thought it would be. But man, what a DIY nightmare! May tell about it some day, when I can look back at it and laugh. ;))

KWSS1976 06-09-2009 02:09 PM
Re: If you no Electricity could you live?
 
I would love to "go green" and have solar power but I priced a system for my house and it would be 75,000 to totally power my 1649sq ft house with solar panels..which the goverment would take care of 1/2 of the bill but still thats 37,500 out of my pocket so I want be going green anytime soon and I would be lost if I had not electricity could not get on AFF...LOL


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