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ILG 06-15-2009 09:24 AM

Changing Standards
 
What is your experience?

Hoovie 06-15-2009 09:41 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
Well most know me and my story... raised conservative Mennonite and now OP - so I guess I have always been around "Standards" we just did not refer to them as such. By no means do I now, or have I believed all the "standards" are salvific in nature.

Again a thread like this needs to be defined... are we talking dress codes or more? Most everyone has some standards they live by.

ILG 06-15-2009 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 760703)
Well most know me and my story... raised conservative Mennonite and now OP - so I guess I have always been around "Standards" we just did not refer to them as such. By no means do I now, or have I believed all the "standards" are salvific in nature.

Again a thread like this needs to be defined... are we talking dress codes or more? Most everyone has some standards they live by.

This is why I used the term "outward standards", meaning rules that are outward in nature. I do not swear, do not have a hooked up television, etc., but I voted as not having , then having, then left off having because my church has no rules about this.

Hoovie 06-15-2009 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 760709)
This is why I used the term "outward standards", meaning rules that are outward in nature. I do not swear, do not have a hooked up television, etc., but I voted as not having , then having, then left off having because my church has no rules about this.

You and I understand the code language. :) But there are many that dress in moderation, don't smoke or drink alcohol, don't wear tatoos or string bikinis - all outward standards.

ILG 06-15-2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 760718)
You and I understand the code language. :) But there are many that dress in moderation, don't smoke or drink alcohol, don't wear tatoos or string bikinis - all outward standards.

Okay.....dress standards imposed by a church. (Now someone will say "But they are not imposed!!!" :D)

Baron1710 06-15-2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 760718)
You and I understand the code language. :) But there are many that dress in moderation, don't smoke or drink alcohol, don't wear tatoos or string bikinis - all outward standards.

I dress in moderation...I only wear clothes now and then.

ManOfWord 06-15-2009 10:09 AM

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I still have outward standards, just not like before.....speedos notwithstanding! :D

ILG 06-15-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 760730)
I still have outward standards, just not like before.....speedos notwithstanding! :D

They only count if they are written in a manual handed you by your higher-ups! :D (Or by oral tradition, like skirts on women!!)

Hoovie 06-15-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 760720)
Okay.....dress standards imposed by a church. (Now someone will say "But they are not imposed!!!" :D)

Well I am not trying to make it difficult, but it really is. We have many that come to church without complying with all the dress "standards" - both at church and at home. They can take communion and be actively involved with worship. Does it limit their capacity to minister in the church body? Quite possibly, but then the same is the case in many churches that are seen as nonstandards churches. For example, Sherri's church has a rather extensive list of do's and don'ts for their church leadership and platform.

ILG 06-15-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 760733)
Well I am not trying to make it difficult, but it really is. We have many that come to church without complying with all the dress "standards" - both at church and at home. does this limit their capassity to minister in the church body? Quite possibly, but then the same is the case in many churches that are seen as nonstandards churches. for example, Sherri's church has a rather extensive list of do's and don'ts for their church leadership and platform.

I would count them as not having outward standards.

John Atkinson 06-15-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 760720)
Okay.....dress standards imposed by a church. (Now someone will say "But they are not imposed!!!" :D)

Please allow me... NOT IMPOSED!:D:thumbsup

ILG 06-15-2009 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 760754)
Please allow me... NOT IMPOSED!:D:thumbsup

Too late. I beat you to it! :D

*AQuietPlace* 06-15-2009 10:35 AM

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I assume ILG means 'typical' Pentecostal standards. Pants, cut hair, makeup - for women. Shorts, etc.

ILG 06-15-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 760764)
I assume ILG means 'typical' Pentecostal standards. Pants, cut hair, makeup - for women. Shorts, etc.

Yep.

Jermyn Davidson 06-15-2009 10:41 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
How about:

being raised with different outward holiness standards, drop those to pick up other outward standards, drop most of those and now back to living some of the standards from the 2nd set of standards acquired?


How should I vote? :)

rgcraig 06-15-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 760771)
How about:

being raised with different outward holiness standards, drop those to pick up other outward standards, drop most of those and now back to living some of the standards from the 2nd set of standards acquired?


How should I vote? :)

LOL.... is there an "other" button?

Jermyn Davidson 06-15-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 760773)
LOL.... is there an "other" button?

Seems I always have to check the "other" box!!!

ILG 06-15-2009 10:47 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 760771)
How about:

being raised with different outward holiness standards, drop those to pick up other outward standards, drop most of those and now back to living some of the standards from the 2nd set of standards acquired?


How should I vote? :)

:smack I dunno!
:ursofunny

Sinatra 06-15-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 760773)
LOL.... is there an "other" button?


There needs to be. I don't see an appropriate choice for me. Someone who grew up with inward/outward holiness standards. As a young teen, I backslid, and had neither the inward or outward. As an older teen, I rededicated my life to Jesus, and in my return embraced the holiness standards once again. I still do.

So, I guess I did, I didn't, I do.:D


Sinatra

ILG 06-15-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinatra (Post 760781)
There needs to be. I don't see an appropriate choice for me. Someone who grew up with inward/outward holiness standards. As a young teen, I backslid, and had neither the inward or outward. As an older teen, I rededicated my life to Jesus, and in my return embraced the holiness standards once again. I still do.

So, I guess I did, I didn't, I do.:D


Sinatra

Well, Renda, if you can add the other choices....go ahead...

*AQuietPlace* 06-15-2009 11:18 AM

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Have lived 'the standards' all of my life, still live them even though I no longer believe they are required by God, don't know exactly what I'll do about them in the future.


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