Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
 

I am not on here much anymore, but, thought some of you would like to hear this piece of information:

There was an "invitation only" meeting in Detroit this past week to talk about the formation of a new organization. This is not an "emergent group" and not an "ultra con" group...but one with the same doctrinal views minus some of the "other" stuff.

Two prominent UPCI leaders were the speakers at this meeting.

Anyone else hear anything about this??

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WOW!!!!! splitting again... there isn't alot left to split JMO

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ditto:thumbsup

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In all fairness the WPF formation was something much less than a split.

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I didn't realize that WPF is a division of UPC.. I am shocked at that!! Interesting

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WPF is definitely a seperate organization from The UPCI.
Likeminded individuals find ways to congregate so another split would not surprise me.

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Who were the two prominent UPCI leaders?

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According to the men who were present in this meeting, (a couple of them have communicated what took place) the rumor that you and others have heard is totally false. According to these men the meeting was NOT in any way to form a new organization nor to split from the UPCI, but rather to re-affirm certain things and discuss other things for the sake of unity, fellowship, and growth.

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It is not a division of the UPCI............reduce the voltage....no shock today.....lol

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Here is an important concept to keep in mind when reading unsubstantiated "news reports:"

Bro. SocaliUPC

Here is the phone number of the church that hosted last week's meeting: 248-373-4500.

It'll only take you the price of a phone call to find out whether you're telling the truth or peddling a "big lie."

For the record: I don't know whether its true or not, but then again I'm not the one that started a Thaddean type thread.

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come on socali.... tell us who they were!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Challenge extended ...

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Not a challenge, but simply a courtesy.

If I posted such a serious rumour, I would want to have the chance to confirm the story.

I just wanted to extend Bro. SocaliUPC the chance to "man-up" and make the call.

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My dear canuck friend how are things in the great North ? Nice to see you Maple Leaf.

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Just peachy, Bro. Hutchinson, just peachy.

All is well in Alabama?

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Maple Leaf... I just talked to a pastor who attended ..he told me who the speakers were.. it did happen!! I may get to post names in a bit

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I have no doubt that a meeting took place. I just doubt the whole "starting a UPC lite rumour."

Are you Bro. SocaliUPC's source?

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Maple Leaf it's warm here,I suppose your weather is cool.
Hey friend start a thread on Justification by faith,since you are a expert in that area.

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We're about 60* today with rain. The normal high for this time of year is about 70* and it looks like we'll probably hit a high of about 80* this week.

Justification by faith is the only hope I have of making Heaven.

About the only thing that I am expert in is garbled cogitation.

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Does any one else want to chat about the weather while we're waiting for Bro. SocaliUPC to track down some confirmation of his news?

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BTW is the goverment provided health care good in Canada ? I understand you have private health care there as well.A two tier system or something it's called.

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It was my understanding that the purpose of the meeting was not to form a new organziation or fellowship, but loose knit network with people with a similar vision. At the risk of using a buzz work, network is in, not forming a old school organization with all of the encumberments. This was from one of the organizers.

While I don't have word on what took place or discussed, this was the intent going into the meeting. As what took place or what came out, I am not privy.

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I've never heard a Canadian suggest that we get rid of our healthcare system.

Our system has always worked very well for my family.

Could it be better?

I'm sure that it could, but we are a country with a small population spread over a large peice of real estate, trying to maintain fiscal responsibility.

They may have private health care in some part of Canada, but not where I hang my hat.

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By and Large your health care system would be better than England ?
I have offically gone and hi-jacked this thread.

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Carefull, the leaf may extend the challenge to you too!

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Ask Thad,he always reports the truth on such matters he will give us the inside scoop.

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I am up to it, I have good sources, I should have been there but I lacked the $!

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He has his sources!!
many are leaving the upc.. yes! not sure where he got starting another org... could be... don't know.

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Hey Sandra how is things with the recording company ?

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This is old news.

The facts, as SoCali posted them, are true, with one exception.

I do not believe another organization is in the works.

Big names were there. Little names were there.

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Nope, no more phone #s.

A little call for accountability seems to have thrown a wet blanket on a rather sensational story.

What I want to know is:

Who was the psalmist at this charismatic convocation?

Would we recognize the name of the organist?

Did Bill Clinton have any friends in attendance?

Did Oprah endorse this meeting?

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So, everything was true except the main point of the story?

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I perceive Mr. Maple Leaf is upset that the details of this meeting may be posted.

However, I understand that Brother Tenney and Brother Rex Johnson did a fine job explaining that the meeting was simply to connect with, and strengthen, those like-minded brothers in attendance.

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Mr. Maple Leaf, when one considers the news that the meeting was by invitation only, and those invitations were sent to men of a very liberal persuasion within the UPC, one is left with the impression that an agenda is being very carefully created, and hidden. ;)

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I can't imagine why I would care whether or not the details of the meeting are posted. I'm not a big name. Not even a little name. I'd have to get a makeover and a publicist even to make it to being a no-name.

You've already posted that the main thrust of the origonal post was in error.

What else about the meeting really matters?

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This is the first time I've heard of an "invitation only" meeting of ministers within the UPC.

One would think that one would seek to create a broader sphere of influence than can be created by an invitation only meeting.

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Boy, they sure didn't do a very good job of hiding it, did they?

I am not UPC, live in the hinterlands of nowhere, and heard about it before it happened.

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The sheer volume of names involved in this "invitation only" meeting.

All liberal. Most, very educated.

The more important question is "why was this meeting necessary, and what events conspired to make it invitation only?"

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The meeting was one of fellowship and unity.

The spirit was the opposite of splitting, it was fellowship and how the next generation of preachers can reach the world with the Apostolic message from WITHIN the UPCI

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But only for the liberal-minded Apostolics?