A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHuling
 

Docket Entry: Plea Hearing Held

Text: Defendant appears in person and with attorney Charles Rhoades. The State appears by Jeremy Crowley, APA. Defendant withdraws the plea of not guilty previously entered and files a Petition to Enter Plea of Guilty marked as Defendant's Exhibit A and a Memorandum of Plea Bargain marked as Defendant's Exhibit B. Defendant sworn. Hearing held. The Court finds that the Defendant's plea of guilty is made voluntarily and intelligently and with full understanding of the charges and the consequences of the plea and with the understanding of rights attending a jury trial and the effect of a plea of guilty on those rights. The Court does find there is a factual basis for the plea. The Court, therefore, accepts the plea of guilty to the charge of a Class B Felony, Child Molestation - 1st Degree, and finds the Defendant guilty thereof. Defendant requests a Sentencing Assessment Report. Court orders Sentencing Assessment Report to be conducted by the Board of Probation and Parole. Report shall be returnable on Friday, August 21, 2009. Defendant shall return for sentencing on Friday, September 4, 2009 at 1:00 P.M. Court defers the acceptance or rejection of the plea agreement. So Ordered: David B. Mouton, Circuit Judge

Associated Docket Entries: 05/13/2009 - Criminal Motion Hearing Sched

Associated Events: 06/26/2009 , 09:00:00 - Criminal Motion Hearing

from www.courts.mo.gov/casenet

29th Judicial Circuit

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

shame shame shame everyone knows your name....LOL

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Sad.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

I agree Cindy...very sad...and I wish people would not post things like this on forums...we have so many outsiders reading here...Including my precious sisters that are not UPC.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Dear Sis. ALvear,

You know I love and respect you immensely, but this is a reason why many sex offenders are not prosecuted. I once asked a prominent UPCI minister why a pedophile was not prosecuted as the offense was done in their church. He told me:
1. They didn't want to bring a reproach upon the church [I believe it to be a reproach when it isn't prosecuted],
2. The young girl involved had reached 18 and was marrying and they did not want her to be dragged into it [she was 14-16 when the molestation occurred].
3. The girl was a PK and they didn't want it to affect the ministry [how dare that parent to protect their ministry from embarrassment at the expense of their daughter].

This is why we are no better than the Catholics who hide behind priestly garments all the while molesting our children. Many times we are not in a place of control when someone we know or a family member is molested, but if we know it has happened and do nothing then we are as guilty as the person who did the molesting.

Respectfully, Rhoni

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Rhoni, I love and respect you too and I a not in any way for hiding things like this I just don´t feel this is the place to do it..
I may be wong I sure am not always rght but it seems so many people read here that we could use this place to build up and not tear down. In no way am I saying this man whoever he is should be protected...God forbid...I just think somewhere else would be proper...

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

If the internet would just disappear everything would go back to the way it was...LOL

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

I am not so sure this medium is any different than others. Those "looking in" need to know we in no way engage in covering this type of thing, whether literally stonewalling an investigation or simply by refusing discussion.

It is news, and now not just hearsay.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

My thread on this was locked

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ead.php?t=7292

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Sis. Alvear, this is already public knowledge. The Joplin, MO newspaper published articles when he was first charged. I've been following the docket entries on Missouri Case Net, as have others. Further, he will be added to the sex offender's list in MO which is accessible to the public, details the charges, and usually includes a picture of the perpetrator.

There are many situations the church can deal with internally, without involving the general public, and "saving the face" of the church, so to speak. However, molestation of a child isn't one of those occasions IMO, anymore than murder, rape, or any other crime that injures a second party.

Unlike with simple immoral behavior, crimes such as molestation, murder, rape, assault, etc., need to be made known to the public so they can protect themselves--and their children.

If a pastor commits adultery, I agree, he can be quietly removed from his post as pastor, and he can resolve the matter with his family without informing the general public of his failure, thus bringing shame to the church as a whole. Other situations warrant the same discreet approach. (Although, IMO, it is NOT wrong to apprise the local congregation of the situation, and in fact they probably should know what is going on.)

Child molestation isn't one of those situations, IMO.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Bratti, You are right and as usual you make a much better case than I.

When I grow up I want to be a wordsmith like you...

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

in no way am I for covering up such a horrible thing...I personally have never heard of the man...I guess it was just my thinking I just hate for things like this to be discussed as many hurt people are on this forum...
sorry....

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Sorry Rhoni I am on Sis A's side on this one. You do have valid points to make but I have to agree with missionary this time. =)

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

As a victm I would much rather see the guilty punished and people know what he or she is/was but I am still with the esteemed Sis A. THIS is not the place for it. There is much here that I feel should be said elsewhere. This is OPEN and many can read what is said. If the discussions here were to be of a different nature but some here get on the band wagon and ridicule and gossip about things. It is one thing to discuss and state another entirely to go down the road that some take. Makes us look pretty ignorant at times.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Why would you post this?

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

I think the poster knows there are some who are following the case.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

bro E sometimes the apostolic friends forum is none of the above, it is only a gossip forum imo nothing was covered he was prosecuted everyone that needed to know probably does , dont know the man i didnt need to know jmo i might not be right but oh well opinions are like noses, we all got one, but mine aint any better than yours

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

It is quite evident that those who have negative opinions about my posting this think only of their own level of comfort regarding this matter. Do you truly think that those who are "hurt" will be swayed by this information? And if they are, won't they answer to God for their own decisions? Did Jesus protect people from negative information regarding crimes of this matter? Did he not preach that it was better that a millstone be hung around the necks of one who would hurt a little one?

Even Jesus shared examples and made examples of Pharisees, in particular. I sat under this man's ministry for YEARS. I loved him, I believed in him. You think about how people may be hurt. . .ask me about my family members who will now make mockery of the things of God due to this man's actions.

Maybe God would have you to spend some time in intercession for his Godly wife who sits with an entire life of ministry in ruins. I added no negative connotations to my post. I copied and pasted the docket entry, it spoke for itself. We DESERVE to know the TRUTH, isn't that what Jesus was all about? THE TRUTH!

I have a right to have my time of pain, my healing and an opportunity to share in this open forum.

Apostolic friends you say? I often wonder. I do have some Apostolic friends, but I would say more often then not I run into Apostolic snakes, vipers and hypocrites. You can now add pastor Huling to the list. I am human, I get to have feelings, God made me like that. It's OK to feel, to think, to vent, to "deal". I learned that after disassociating from the UPC.

I learned that God was loving and wanted me to truly have life more abundantly and I finally learned what grace was. I love my friends who remain and I thank God for bringing me to the place I am now and for where He is leading me.

I would implore you to get outside of your own minds, your own comfort zones, and empathize, for a moment with the many kinds of people and many real life situations that are out there.

Mrs. Bratti, thanks for the backing and for understanding.

Brothers and Sisters who disagree, you need to step outside into the great big world, disengage your heads from the sand and look around you, it will help you be much more effective in your ministries.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

GASP!!!!

You dare call this a GOSSIP COLUMN!!!!

:sad










NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO:ursofunny


Why do you think we come here? Much funner than JP! Right Epley?

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Perhaps whocanitbe can come out in the open & say who they are?

As it is, they are cowardly hiding behind a anonymous moniker!

As phony as a three dollar bill!

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

I am ever so thankful that God has brought you to a place of healing. But before you try to rebuke Sister Alvear about her opinions, without seeming to know much about her ministry. This special lady has ministered in the jungles of Brazil since she was a young girl. Her ministry speaks for itself. She has seen more of the great big world than you probably will in your lifetime. And we are all entitled to our opinions.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Yep, gotta agree with you on this one Granny!

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

sis or bro if you had said you were a victim, do i assume of him? then i or all who saw this would understand. im sorry, i can think of no worse burden! or sin for that matter! just dont throw the baby out with the bath water? its not the upc or any org [that doesnt try to cover it ] and transfer it as we have seen happen? its that person and they are in every org. unfortunately.sin knows no boundries! GOD BLESS!

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Make no mistake, I was not admonishing Sis Alvear or pointing to any "one" person in particular, I humbly apologize if it seemed that way. And PUH-LEASE Ron, I am not "hiding" nor am I as fake as a $3 bill. I only hope we don't face such trite things at the judgment. . . .geez.

Yes, we are all human, and all entitled to opinions, I agree. . . but just because one's opinion does not match your own, does not make it fundamentally wrong. Make sense?

Lisa in Joplin-for those who must know!

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

I hope more of these criminals will be caught and brought to justice. There are very likely more of them out there. Perhaps their victims will be encouraged by news like this to speak out, and someone who may not have seen the news in the usual outlets may read it here on this forum. If nothing else, that alone justifies posting it, IMO.

Thank you, Lisa.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

I apologize if I mistook your post as an admonishment of Sis. Alvear. Glad to meet you Lisa, I am Cindy from Texas. And truly grateful that you have found healing and peace in this lifetime. That is rare in this situation.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

yes, please forgive me I meant no harm at all...I know much more about these things than many because I have raised children that were abused and dealt with circumstances that could not be put on a forum...I deeply understand...the pain...I have sat nights with the abused and wept with them...
I think I understood the post wrong from the beginning...I really thought it was just gossip...please forgive me...I stay in such a hurry sometimes I don't catch on...sorry...

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

I am not UPC so I really do not know this so called pastor or anyone involved...I spoke without thinking about something I KNOW nothing about...

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Thank you for being open to realizing that not all "lurkers" are here to attack or cause conflict.

I lurk here on a consistent basis. I must chew up the meat and spit out the bones, just like I have to with any information I take in on any given subject. Likewise, I realize that I alone am responsible for "working out my own salvation" so I don't let ridiculous banter trip me up, if I can help it. Again, I am human and I am WOMAN, enough said! lol

I can assure you of one thing, had I not come into the UPC in a military setting in Europe, but here in the states, given the examples I have seen stateside, I never could have justified aligning myself with the UPC movement. That is not a "dis" to all, but a statement of the overwhelming example I have observed over the years since 1991 when I first sat under an Exploring God's Word Bible Study.

Every time this stuff comes up with Bro. Huling I get another knot in my stomach, flashbacks of sorts. I was raised by alcoholics, married the HS sweetheart baptist preacher's son. . . .we became UPC first year married and he had ISSUES. . .let's just say I should have left the marriage a good decade before I did, I will spare you the details, but the brow beating and insecurity I had from sitting under UPC ministries that would have told me to "stick it out" and fear of possibly causing my lost family to never know the Lord kept me in a horrible situation. . . . I am glad to tell you I am free of all of that today. I am remarried to a wonderful Godly man and my life is full of peace and joy, even with 3 teenagers in a blended family, now THAT, my friend, is a miracle in it's own right! lol

I think of pastor Huling strutting across the stage, yelling, screaming, preaching, telling us how wicked we were, how sick and twisted the world was, speaking of illicit sexual things and "honkey tonks" and always tucked in, V shaped, still worked out to keep himself in good physical condition. . .all while this is what was happening!!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHh It makes me sick to my stomach. I let my child play in the yard with him when I went to lunch at their home. . . .OH GOD, what if? what if? what if? I had him in my home, he married my sister and her first husband, you have no idea!

Gossip? Some would say gossip? You have no idea friends, NO IDEA, what happens inside of you when a person you esteemed at the level I esteemed this man FULLY ADMITS to doing such things. Go to www.joplinglobe.com, read the disgusting details. The docket entry I posted is NOTHING compared to the details of what he did to this, now broken and violated little girl. I know the little girl, I do, I saw her in town recently, my heart sank. She's suffered tremendous physical ills due to the stress and tension. My own daughter is 12. . . .It sickens me. Then there's sister Huling, I love her. I cannot reach out to her, how can I help?

All of these thoughts go through your mind. I know, I know, this is not the place. If this is not the place, then where is the place? The same place I stayed trapped in in my marriage to my SUPER SPIRITUAL ex husband while he ran, spoke in tongues and brought home what it took to cause positive STD tests? That place, is that where I should go back to?

I have shared more than I ever intended and this is just the tip of the ice burg. I hope it paints a clearer picture for some folks rather than just people thinking this is some sort of "smear campaign".

Lisa

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Well PUH-LEASE Lisa, a lot of people come on here behind anonymous monikers
posting things about men of God both true & false!
I ask you this question, "what was the purpose of posting this?"
There are Ministers in every denomination who cheat on thier wives, a few are probably pedophiles, & a few even get innocently accused.

There was a sister in our District who worked in a daycare & was falsely accused of abusing kids.
The police investigated her like crazy & put her through the wringer, she even took a lie detector test!
She was cleared, but not before her reputation was ruined (even though she was exonerated) & never came through it totally.

Why did I say that, "what do you hope or anyone who posts things of that nature, hope to accomplish?"
Does one hope to diminish the Ministry more than it already has?

If anything has happened to you, I am very sorry it has & hope that you can find healing & forgiveness & move on because to do other wise, shortchanges you.

Yes, I have an opinion thqat is different than others.
I did know through someone else a Huling, don't know if they are the same one or related, it has been so long ago.

I ask you this in closing, what if the friends or loved ones of this man come on here & see this post?
Are they not hurting too?

Some things to consider.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

one thing I have noticed in 41 years on the field...preachers that harp on clothes...sex..women...generally have serious problems...

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Ron-it's not a false accusation, he admitted to it initially, it's all in the court docs which are public here in MO, as I said before, it's not a smear campaign. I'm sure many are hurting and each has a right to deal with their own pain in their own way. I'm sorry you FEEL this is inappropriate. While I am a far cry from being the Lord Himself, a lot of folks accused Jesus of being inappropriate too, so, so be it. As you can see in my last post, I have given MUCH thought to the others. I've also seen the mommy of this girl get on the joplin globe forums to defend her daughter as nay sayers tried to call the little girl a liar. Huling went to the police station nearly 2 years ago and gave a statement, it was all in the paper. I would hope you would go to www.joplinglobe.com and read some of it, there's an article there just posted not a couple hours ago, google his name, it's all over, ALL OVER the ANTI Christian sites. I hope folks read this and think good and hard before they succumb to such hideousness and see what it does to others, mostly to the NAME OF THE LORD. . . . .

Just my 2 cents worth. Have a blessed night Ron.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Yup. That is also my experience in my 50 years. Anytime I hear a preacher who seems to have a "pet peeve" he harps on my radar goes up and I would be willing to bet the farm it is an area he has a problem with himself.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

I've also observed this many times. If that's the focus, it's their weak area, not the folks hearing it preached.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

you can count on knowing a person by their type messages....a few times I have been fooled but not many...

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Oh so true. Remember that particular preacher in Baton Rouge that in every sermon he would prance across a big stage and preach against the "dirty whores." And we all know what happened. He has openly repented, so I accept that. But I bring it up just to illustrate your point.

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

one came to our place preaching women had to wear hose...come to find out he was living in adultry...watch out when all someone wants to preach is some certain topic....

Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu
 

Ron, if this were merely an accusation and not a FACT based on a confession,then your argument might have some validity. As it stands, there is nothing inappropriate about this being posted here.

Sorry for your pain, Lisa, and thanks for taking the time to post.