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MikeinAR 07-03-2009 01:30 PM

Sarah Palin announces she will resign
 
at the end of July as Governor of Alaska.

Not completing her first term as Gov. can't help any future political aspirations. There had been a lot of speculation that she wouldn't seek re-election in 2010, but it's way to early to see this as a chance for her to begin to run for President in 2012. This is plain odd.

Do we have another story about to unfold here?

citizen 07-03-2009 01:42 PM

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She said something like 'she can be more effective outside of government than within it'

or she may be going home to keep a better eye on her children - stay at home moms are people too.

BUT MAYBE she is getting her own talkshow on radio or tv.

Or shes in a scandal.

Timmy 07-03-2009 02:14 PM

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Or Gold told her to resign. (He's known for saying odd things. ;))

MikeinAR 07-03-2009 02:22 PM

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I just watched her annoucement and it was very weird.

She rambled on about not wanting to be a lame duck, wasting the tax payer's money as a lame duck, not doing politics as usual, going on wasteful trade missions like other governors and wanting to do what was right for the people.

I have no clue why she felt like she couldn't successfully end her term as Governor that the people elected her to, but she assured everyone it was the right thing to do for Alaska.

All of her interviews and statements during the election, made me question her, but the announcement today and the way she delivered it makes me think her career in politics may be over.

The McCain aides got this one completely right. She is WEIRD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACKm0...layer_embedded

Timmy 07-03-2009 02:38 PM

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She's been wasting millions of dollars, and now she's going to stop? That's..... admirable. :hmmm

RevDWW 07-03-2009 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 767788)
She's been wasting millions of dollars, and now she's going to stop? That's..... admirable. :hmmm

Hmmm, I wonder who you support that waste millions????? :ursofunny

tstew 07-03-2009 02:50 PM

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Yeah, I saw this. This strikes me as a bit strange and unexpected. I do wonder if there is a back story that will come out.

MikeinAR 07-03-2009 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 767788)
She's been wasting millions of dollars, and now she's going to stop? That's..... admirable. :hmmm

Yeah it's almost as if she thinks finishing out her term as Gov. was nothing but a waste of tax payer money and time. She pretty much doesn't see the point in completing her obligation to the citizens of Alaska, because all lame duck Gov.'s do is waste money, go on trade missions, and bang there head against the wall.

tstew 07-03-2009 02:53 PM

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Okay, Mike. I just watched the video you posted. I don't care who you are. That was strange.

I can't wait to see O'Reilly break down the body language and breathing. (Okay, PO that was for you) :)

MikeinAR 07-03-2009 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 767794)
Okay, Mike. I just watched the video you posted. I don't care who you are. That was strange.

I can't wait to see O'Reilly break down the body language and breathing. (Okay, PO that was for you) :)

Even during the campaign she struck me as a considerably odd person during interviews, especially the one's with Charles Gibson and Kate Couric. Her tone is really odd, her facial expressions are distracting and the places she decides to emphasize words is strange.

I can't think of another public speaker to compare her too and I'm not saying that in a good way. :ursofunny

RevDWW 07-03-2009 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 767794)
Okay, Mike. I just watched the video you posted. I don't care who you are. That was strange.

I can't wait to see O'Reilly break down the body language and breathing. (Okay, PO that was for you) :)

Does it appear as though she is under duress?

Jermyn Davidson 07-03-2009 03:01 PM

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I think this is a sad development.

Palin really looked professional the last time I saw on tv. She did an extended interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN.

She did very well. She appeared very prepared and not coached.


From her interview on CNN that I saw recently, there is NO WAY to have seen this comming.

That live interview was not even a month ago.

tstew 07-03-2009 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 767797)
Does it appear as though she is under duress?

It did not sound like a politician who was at peace with what she was saying (in my honest opinion). To continue her sports analogy, it didn't sound like the coach who had coached her tenure, and just knew in her heart that it was time to move on and be with her family. The breathing and mannerisms just did not fit with some of the other speeches I've seen her give.

It could all simply be that it's just a stressful day, but my gut tells me there may be more to the story.

crakjak 07-03-2009 03:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 767783)
I just watched her annoucement and it was very weird.

She rambled on about not wanting to be a lame duck, wasting the tax payer's money as a lame duck, not doing politics as usual, going on wasteful trade missions like other governors and wanting to do what was right for the people.

I have no clue why she felt like she couldn't successfully end her term as Governor that the people elected her to, but she assured everyone it was the right thing to do for Alaska.

All of her interviews and statements during the election, made me question her, but the announcement today and the way she delivered it makes me think her career in politics may be over.

The McCain aides got this one completely right. She is WEIRD!


You might be weird too, if every moved you made the leftist media demonized you. A half million personal debt, just to defend against the left using public money to wear her down. Every time she traveled they scrutinized every detail to try to find some wrong doing, it is leftist mode of operation, use other people's money to buy support. Tear down so they can implement the goofy policies currently coming out of DC.

American is in trouble, the barbarians are not just at the gate they are in control of government and the media.

MikeinAR 07-03-2009 03:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 767809)
You might be weird too, if every moved you made the leftist media demonized you. A half million personal debt, just to defend against the left using public money to wear her down. Every time she traveled they scrutinized every detail to try to find some wrong doing, it is leftist mode of operation, use other people's money to buy support. Tear down so they can implement the goofy policies currently coming out of DC.

American is in trouble, the barbarians are not just at the gate they are in control of government and the media.

Ummm, welcome to American politics. You do remember the effort and money that the right wing nuts spent on tearing down Bill Clinton so they could implement their NeoCon policies from 2000-08 right?

Sarah Palin didn't receive any worse treatment than everyone who runs for President and VP in this country.

Now, I'd agree she apparently hasn't handled it well and that's too bad, but let's not throw a poor Sarah party here.

citizen 07-03-2009 03:45 PM

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Maybe FOX is willing to give her a show. And the paycheck from FOX would be 10 times more than what she could make as governor.

Although I dont understand her not waiting until 2010. Because if she has quit her obligations to Alaska so that she can concentrate on the 2012 presidential election....stick a fork in her because she's done.

tstew 07-03-2009 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by citizen (Post 767814)
Maybe FOX is willing to give her a show. And the paycheck from FOX would be 10 times more than what she could make as governor.

Although I dont understand her not waiting until 2010. Because if she has quit her obligations to Alaska so that she can concentrate on the 2012 presidential election....stick a fork in her because she's done.

I agree. It's crazy that on the FoxNews site, they are putting that out as a legitimate reason for her to quit in 2009. I think that she can kiss it goodbye if that was her intention.

It's just crazy to me, though, how we are wired in political discussions. Many of those who consider themselves Republican will probably feel almost compelled to defend her. I can imagine that FoxNews would not be putting the 2012 election out there as a legit reason if a prominent Dem had suddenly quit in 2009. ..she didn't even try to use that to justify or explain it.

(of course it works both ways though, with both parties)

Esther 07-03-2009 03:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 767812)
Ummm, welcome to American politics. You do remember the effort and money that the right wing nuts spent on tearing down Bill Clinton so they could implement their NeoCon policies from 2000-08 right?

Sarah Palin didn't receive any worse treatment than everyone who runs for President and VP in this country.

Now, I'd agree she apparently hasn't handled it well and that's too bad, but let's not throw a poor Sarah party here.

Oh please tell me what NeoCon policies were implemented from 2000-08?

SOUNWORTHY 07-03-2009 03:56 PM

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Maybe her husband just got tired of the media, comedians and the lib's trashing his family and put his foot down. She's a beautiful woman and seems to be a real lady. Not many of those in politics. especially in Ca. :thumbsup

Esther 07-03-2009 03:57 PM

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Tstew I'm with you. You can bet there is another story to this.

As to what it is who can tell. But you have to remember she went against the big oil companies that have mucho money and POWER.

Not to mention how much I trust our current prez and his cohorts.:sad

SOUNWORTHY 07-03-2009 03:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 767809)
You might be weird too, if every moved you made the leftist media demonized you. A half million personal debt, just to defend against the left using public money to wear her down. Every time she traveled they scrutinized every detail to try to find some wrong doing, it is leftist mode of operation, use other people's money to buy support. Tear down so they can implement the goofy policies currently coming out of DC.

American is in trouble, the barbarians are not just at the gate they are in control of government and the media.

I agree 100% if that means anything!!

citizen 07-03-2009 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 767816)
I agree. It's crazy that on the FoxNews site, they are putting that out as a legitimate reason for her to quit in 2009. I think that she can kiss it goodbye if that was her intention.

It's just crazy to me, though, how we are wired in political discussions. Many of those who consider themselves Republican will probably feel almost compelled to defend her. I can imagine that FoxNews would not be putting the 2012 election out there as a legit reason if a prominent Dem had suddenly quit in 2009. ..she didn't even try to use that to justify or explain it.

(of course it works both ways though, with both parties)


Of course FOX is would defend her. What it could be - FOX is taking her out of the running - to make room for REAL viable candidates, like Romney or a few others. And having her out of the way but still OUT THERE mixing it up with the base, she will be campaigning (in her own wonderful way) pulling in money for the GOP.

I think its a good move. 'Keep' her out there but on a very short leash. It seems that shes tasted the high life and there is no way she will walk away from the lower 48 and stay tucked up there in Alaska. She has become bigger than Alaska. Alaska cant contain Sarah.

What I dont get is her stating that - the world needs more down syndrome babies. What???

crakjak 07-03-2009 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 767812)
Ummm, welcome to American politics. You do remember the effort and money that the right wing nuts spent on tearing down Bill Clinton so they could implement their NeoCon policies from 2000-08 right?

Sarah Palin didn't receive any worse treatment than everyone who runs for President and VP in this country.

Now, I'd agree she apparently hasn't handled it well and that's too bad, but let's not throw a poor Sarah party here.

Nonsense, the Demos threw everything including the kitchen sink at her. Bill Clinton was a womanizer that made it very easy to expose. Sarah Palin is a decent human being that has been demonized by completely corrupt win at any cost politicians.

It was stupid of John McCain to pick her with so little time for her to prepare, and she was definitely not prepared.

I saw GWB change from a weak speaking governor to be able to win to terms, but it took months and months of prep.

So, I believe that was the main problem she was just not vetted and prepared for the national stage.

crakjak 07-03-2009 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by citizen (Post 767814)
Maybe FOX is willing to give her a show. And the paycheck from FOX would be 10 times more than what she could make as governor.

Although I dont understand her not waiting until 2010. Because if she has quit her obligations to Alaska so that she can concentrate on the 2012 presidential election....stick a fork in her because she's done.

She may be going to run, but I doubt it. It is sad that decent people have not a chance against the corrupt state of politics and media.

tstew 07-03-2009 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 767819)
Tstew I'm with you. You can bet there is another story to this.

As to what it is who can tell. But you have to remember she went against the big oil companies that have mucho money and POWER.

Not to mention how much I trust our current prez and his cohorts.:sad

She has recently had a lot of corruption type complaints and scandals brewing as well. I'm sure that much of that could be simple politics, but I think we also need to remember that Alaskan politics is as notoriously dirty as (dare I say it?) ...Chicago's. :)

A surprising resignation at this point is a bad sign in my opinion. It appears that it caught many in Alaska's highest levels of government by surprise.

MikeinAR 07-03-2009 04:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 767822)
It was stupid of John McCain to pick her with so little time for her to prepare, and she was definitely not prepared.

So, I believe that was the main problem she was just not vetted and prepared for the national stage.

We can definitely agree on those two statements. I think he's to blame for picking a totally unprepared VP candidate. She was thrust into a very bad situation and her ineptness made her a rightful recipient of criticism.

Blubayou 07-03-2009 04:06 PM

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I think there is another story, too. I think Palin got a raw deal during the election and the media has been pretty rough on her since the election. But- there is either a scandal, marriage trouble, or some other story behind this announcement.

tstew 07-03-2009 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by citizen (Post 767821)
Of course FOX is would defend her. What it could be - FOX is taking her out of the running - to make room for REAL viable candidates, like Romney or a few others. And having her out of the way but still OUT THERE mixing it up with the base, she will be campaigning (in her own wonderful way) pulling in money for the GOP.

I think its a good move. 'Keep' her out there but on a very short leash. It seems that shes tasted the high life and there is no way she will walk away from the lower 48 and stay tucked up there in Alaska. She has become bigger than Alaska. Alaska cant contain Sarah.

What I dont get is her stating that - the world needs more down syndrome babies. What???


Whoah, I missed that last part. I can't believe she said it either, but she did seem a bit rattled throughout the speech. I guess we'll just see how it all plays out.

citizen 07-03-2009 04:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 767823)
She may be going to run, but I doubt it. It is sad that decent people have not a chance against the corrupt state of politics and media.

Politics is a dirty profession.

crakjak 07-03-2009 04:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 767825)
We can definitely agree on those two statements. I think he's to blame for picking a totally unprepared VP candidate. She was thrust into a very bad situation and her ineptness made her a rightful recipient of criticism.

She could have handled the office, character and the desire to do the right thing she has, handling the wickedness in politics and the media, she was not prepared for.

That is what is sad, it is not enough to have character and the desire to make right choices, you have to be brutal to win in current politics.

crakjak 07-03-2009 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by citizen (Post 767830)
Politics is a dirty profession.

That what is sad, you have to be dirty to win. Are that's what it appears.

citizen 07-03-2009 04:15 PM

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She may be making room for Jeb Bush.

citizen 07-03-2009 04:16 PM

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If she gets a show....my prediction is it will be a mega HIT !!! I will be watching.

franklyn4 07-03-2009 04:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blubayou (Post 767826)
I think there is another story, too. I think Palin got a raw deal during the election and the media has been pretty rough on her since the election. But- there is either a scandal, marriage trouble, or some other story behind this announcement.

Politics is a contact sport. Once you put yourself on the national political map, the media comes after you. If you saw her resignation speech it was totally weird! She obviously just threw it together. Why didnt she take a few days or weeks to put her story together properly? She did herself no favors with that speech!

In all honesty, she simply wasnt ready for primetime! Sarah Plain is like a talented high school football player that skipped college and went straight into the NFL. She needed a lot more preparation and seasoning in order to be able to handle the spotlight of national politics.

Total flame out!

Pressing-On 07-03-2009 04:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 767794)
Okay, Mike. I just watched the video you posted. I don't care who you are. That was strange.

I can't wait to see O'Reilly break down the body language and breathing. (Okay, PO that was for you) :)

Very funny, Stew!!! :thwak :toofunny

I'm feeling that I want to view this, at the outset, in the same way as William Kristol. The reason that I want to view her resignation in this way is that Palin has already had 15 ethic charges filed against her and she just wrapped up the win on the 15th. :thumbsup

I'm not seeing a scandal here. She has nothing to lose with this decision and everything to gain. She is a darling to a good many Americans. I'm not smelling a scandal, but who knows - in politics anything can happen. lol

Quote:

Kristol: A Contrarian Take

If Palin wants to run in 2012, why not do exactly what she announced today? It's an enormous gamble - but it could be a shrewd one.

After all, she's freeing herself from the duties of the governorship. Now she can do her book, give speeches, travel the country and the world, campaign for others, meet people, get more educated on the issues - and without being criticized for neglecting her duties in Alaska. I suppose she'll take a hit for leaving the governorship early - but how much of one? She's probably accomplished most of what she was going to get done as governor, and is leaving a sympatico lieutenant governor in charge.

And haven't conservatives been lamenting the lack of a national leader? Well, now she'll try to be that. She may not succeed. Everything rests on her talents, and on her performance. She'll be under intense and hostile scrutiny, and she'll have to perform well.

All in all, it's going to be a high-wire act. The odds are against her pulling it off. But I wouldn't bet against it.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblog...ian_take_1.asp

tstew 07-03-2009 04:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 767831)
She could have handled the office, character and the desire to do the right thing she has, handling the wickedness in politics and the media, she was not prepared for.

That what is sad, it is not enough to have character and the desire to made choices, you have to be brutal to win in current politics.

Crak, with all due respect, if the reason for the sudden resignation is that she could not handle the wicked media, I'm not sure I want her as the Commander-in-Chief and CEO of the country (and by default, the world). There has to be more.

If this was the only reason, then this was a small-minded, selfish move on her part. When she stepped onto the center stage of the GOP, she took on a responsiblity bigger than herself...even bigger than Alaska. There are people all over the country who defended her and promoted her in conversations and debates. People who basically defended her and aligned themselves with her as if they knew her personally. I know many people still will no matter what, but there are also many who recognize that she will have left them with egg on their faces if she basically absconded for no real reason at all.

tstew 07-03-2009 04:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 767837)
Very funny, Stew!!! :thwak :toofunny

I'm feeling that I want to view this, at the outset, in the same way as William Kristol. The reason that I want to view her resignation in this way is that Palin has already had 15 ethic charges filed against her and she just wrapped up the win on the 15th. :thumbsup

I'm not seeing a scandal here. She has nothing to lose with this decision and everything to gain. She is a darling to a good many Americans. I'm not smelling a scandal, but who knows - in politics anything can happen. lol

I knew that would wake you up :)

I think what you are talking about though is the fact that her staff was pointing out that 15 ethic charges had been dropped...there were plenty more filed that are still in play though.
I'm not saying that I know what all happened. I'm just saying that my gut tells me there's more. I'm also saying that I'm not willing to say she is pure as the driven snow, just because she is GOP. I do not know her personally so I would be just as unsurprised at anything with her as I would with any other politician.

And I think that she (and her supporters) have plenty to lose with this decision.

SOUNWORTHY 07-03-2009 04:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 767812)
Ummm, welcome to American politics. You do remember the effort and money that the right wing nuts spent on tearing down Bill Clinton so they could implement their NeoCon policies from 2000-08 right?

Sarah Palin didn't receive any worse treatment than everyone who runs for President and VP in this country.

Now, I'd agree she apparently hasn't handled it well and that's too bad, but let's not throw a poor Sarah party here.

You are either blind,deaf or possibly both. If the media trashed Obama's family like they have Sarah's he's pass a law making it illegal. I remember when they tried that in Missouri during pre election campaigns.

Pressing-On 07-03-2009 04:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 767840)
I knew that would wake you up :)

I think what you are talking about though is the fact that her staff was pointing out that 15 ethic charges had been dropped...there were plenty more filed that are still in play though.
I'm not saying that I know what all happened. I'm just saying that my gut tells me there's more. I'm also saying that I'm not willing to say she is pure as the driven snow, just because she is GOP. I do not know her personally so I would be just as unsurprised at anything with her as I would with any other politician.

And I think that she (and her supporters) have plenty to lose with this decision.

You could be right, Stew. As yet, we don't know. Just scouring the Alaska papers, since she ran as VP, I didn't find anything that seemed out of order or suspicious toward her. I never thought she was pure as snow because of being GOP - for the record. :D

I don't think she has as much to lose with this. William Kristol is a pretty sharp guy and would have spoken all the negatives if it was all negative for her. He didn't do that.

I listened to the clip, and felt she had some plans up her sleeve for her future. Very decided plans that she wasn't ready to divulge so that the media could kill her before she got started.

Just my take. Perhaps, I hope for more...

citizen 07-03-2009 04:33 PM

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Here's an excerpt from her speech today:

As I thought about this announcement that I wouldn't run for re-election, and what that means for Alaska, I thought about how, well, how much fun some Governors have as lame ducks. They maybe travel around their state, travel to other states, maybe take their overseas international trade missions.

LOL ! Is Sarah taking jabs at the love-lorn SC Governor?


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