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MrMasterMind 07-08-2009 04:14 PM

The Latest from the "Holiness Police"
 
This post was copied from FB with permission from the author:


"It seems the latest fad among the “holiness police” is to send FB friend requests for the sole purpose of scouring photos so they can then hold cabals to assassinate both character and ministries-(aka “lamenting lack of standards”)

How truly frightening it must be to live in a siege “hold the fort” mentality, sitting around wondering who will be the next to be picked off.

How sad to reduce the concept to Holiness before God to compliance with a rulebook based on 50 year old North American “distinctives”.

Lord forgive them and grant them peace and a true understanding of Your love and holiness, in the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen"

GrowingPains 07-08-2009 04:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 769636)
This post was copied from FB with permission from the author:


"It seems the latest fad among the “holiness police” is to send FB friend requests for the sole purpose of scouring photos so they can then hold cabals to assassinate both character and ministries-(aka “lamenting lack of standards”)

How truly frightening it must be to live in a siege “hold the fort” mentality, sitting around wondering who will be the next to be picked off.

How sad to reduce the concept to Holiness before God to compliance with a rulebook based on 50 year old North American “distinctives”.

Lord forgive them and grant them peace and a true understanding of Your love and holiness, in the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen"

May I introduce these others to FB privacy controls?

RandyWayne 07-08-2009 04:22 PM

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Man, I keep hoping one of the holiness officers would befriend me! I have a WHOLE BUNCH of Jamaican pictures I'd love to show them and have plastered on the next issue of whatever conservative rag that wishes to publish them. :)

MissBrattified 07-08-2009 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GrowingPains (Post 769639)
May I introduce these others to FB privacy controls?

I do limit who can see some of my photo albums, mainly because I don't like the idea of strangers viewing pictures of my kids.

However, that isn't the point. What kind of person takes the time to go through facebook and myspace albums so they can report back to pastors or peers any misdeeds or controversy?

That in and of itself is quite the attitude problem. :coffee2

GrowingPains 07-08-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 769649)
I do limit who can see some of my photo albums, mainly because I don't like the idea of strangers viewing pictures of my kids.

However, that isn't the point. What kind of person takes the time to go through facebook and myspace albums so they can report back to pastors or peers any misdeeds or controversy?

That in and of itself is quite the attitude problem. :coffee2

And if I had enough time in my life to straighten them all out, I certainly would. So, for individuals I don't know too well, don't trust too well, they are certainly restricted in what they can see.

RandyWayne 07-08-2009 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 769649)
I do limit who can see some of my photo albums, mainly because I don't like the idea of strangers viewing pictures of my kids.

However, that isn't the point. What kind of person takes the time to go through facebook and myspace albums so they can report back to pastors or peers any misdeeds or controversy?

That in and of itself is quite the attitude problem. :coffee2

When people are that uptight, ya just gotta have fun with them!

MrMasterMind 07-08-2009 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 769656)
When people are that uptight, ya just gotta have fun with them!

I would pick a different word than uptight, lol. However, as far as the ya just gotta have fun with them, that's my job.

:thumbsup

I clearly differentiate between men of conviction and holiness police though.

MikeinAR 07-08-2009 04:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 769647)
Man, I keep hoping one of the holiness officers would befriend me! I have a WHOLE BUNCH of Jamaican pictures I'd love to show them and have plastered on the next issue of whatever conservative rag that wishes to publish them. :)

You big show off, you just want them to all see your huge biceps and 6 pack. :ursofunny

I agree with Miss Brat. I restrict my photo albums on Facebook to friends only because I don't really see the need for people that I don't know to peruse through my pics.

RandyWayne 07-08-2009 04:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 769658)
I would pick a different word than uptight, lol. However, as far as the ya just gotta have fun with them, that's my job.

:thumbsup

I clearly differentiate between men of conviction and holiness police though.

I was going to say anal, but "uptight" just sounded better. :)

MrMasterMind 07-08-2009 04:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 769662)
You big show off, you just want them to all see your huge biceps and 6 pack. :ursofunny

I agree with Miss Brat. I restrict my photo albums on Facebook to friends only because I don't really see the need for people that I don't know to peruse through my pics.

Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

MikeinAR 07-08-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 769690)
Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

Yeah that would be pretty pathetic and ridiculous. In that case, I hope those people are "former" friends after acting that childish.

oletime 07-08-2009 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 769636)
This post was copied from FB with permission from the author:


"It seems the latest fad among the “holiness police” is to send FB friend requests for the sole purpose of scouring photos so they can then hold cabals to assassinate both character and ministries-(aka “lamenting lack of standards”)

How truly frightening it must be to live in a siege “hold the fort” mentality, sitting around wondering who will be the next to be picked off.

How sad to reduce the concept to Holiness before God to compliance with a rulebook based on 50 year old North American “distinctives”.

Lord forgive them and grant them peace and a true understanding of Your love and holiness, in the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen"

Why would you post anything inappropiate on fb or any place else. God himself can look at my fb. Check that , come to think of it he does lol, Ps Dont put your address on there or anything personal like a pic of your house or any kind of personal info. Dont brag about your job or your place of employment, trade skills ie. wage brackets in specific ways, No ones business. its just common sense!

MrMasterMind 07-08-2009 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 769693)
Yeah that would be pretty pathetic and ridiculous. In that case, I hope those people are "former" friends after acting that childish.

So far they are mostly targeting preachers.

With all their TALK about abominations- Deut. 22:5, they forget this one-Prob 6:16-19

RandyWayne 07-08-2009 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 769690)
Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

This is the type of picture the would find if they "tricked" me. :)

(WARNING: If you are offended by images of man showing skin above the elbow or a woman's midriff DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK! You have been warned!!!) It is us at Dunns River Falls in Jamaica.
http://randyandgail.com/DSC02892.JPG

Can you see this pic on the cover of the latest issue of the Apostolic Contender?

MrMasterMind 07-08-2009 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oletime (Post 769698)
Why would you post anything inappropiate on fb or any place else. God himself can look at my fb. Check that , come to think of it he does lol, Ps Dont put your address on there or anything personal like a pic of your house or any kind of personal info. Dont brag about your job or your place of employment, trade skills ie. wage brackets in specific ways, No ones business. its just common sense!

First of all, there is an obvious disagreement on what is appropriate. Secondly, you are obviously missing the point, no flaunting involved. Friend request followed by searching for something wrong. Hence Holiness Police.

Sister Alvear 07-08-2009 05:16 PM

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sick minds...lol...

GrowingPains 07-08-2009 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 769705)
This is the type of picture the would find if they "tricked" me. :)

(WARNING: If you are offended by images of man showing skin above the elbow or a woman's midriff DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK! You have been warned!!!) It is us at Dunns River Falls in Jamaica.
http://randyandgail.com/DSC02892.JPG

Can you see this pic on the cover of the latest issue of the Apostolic Contender?

Wow, Ron. I don't know what to say about that... boldness or sloppiness?

You just made public a photo of your wife in clothing closely related to a bra.

Okay... still trying to reconcile that. Love you anyways.

RandyWayne 07-08-2009 05:22 PM

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It's actually "Randy" and it is not immodest (in our opinion) and presented ONLY as a link (meaning it takes the effort to actually click on it).
(And in Jamaica, we were far more modest than many others!)

But..... it is in the spirit of providing fodder for those looking for ammo to bring to their superiors in a "na na na na naa naa!" sort of way.

jaxfam6 07-08-2009 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 769690)
Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

oh good, I need to pull out my Pismo Beach pics and post then. Give them LOTS to talk about.

GraceAmazing 07-08-2009 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 769690)
Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

This actually happened to me. I got a nasty message in my inbox about how I was "looked up" to and I had totally let them and God down, not to mention my family. Really upset me...for a few minutes :D

People...you just can't predict them!!

Sister Alvear 07-08-2009 08:17 PM

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People can be sooooooooooooo cruel...

rgcraig 07-08-2009 08:18 PM

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That is really sad.

oletime 07-08-2009 09:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 769709)
First of all, there is an obvious disagreement on what is appropriate. Secondly, you are obviously missing the point, no flaunting involved. Friend request followed by searching for something wrong. Hence Holiness Police.

instead of holiness police how about aquaintances that are nosy troublemakers trying to draw attention away from what they just got caught doing ? at which point they would cease to be even an aquaintance.

HopePreacher 07-08-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GraceAmazing (Post 769797)
This actually happened to me. I got a nasty message in my inbox about how I was "looked up" to and I had totally let them and God down, not to mention my family. Really upset me...for a few minutes :D

People...you just can't predict them!!

Oh, I don't know... I have found it pretty easy to predict people. First, look at who they admire, then look at who they consider their mentor; then look at where they get their spiritual inspiration.... then you can pretty well predict how they will respond.

Praxeas 07-08-2009 09:43 PM

Re: The Latest from the "Holiness Police"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 769636)
This post was copied from FB with permission from the author:


"It seems the latest fad among the “holiness police” is to send FB friend requests for the sole purpose of scouring photos so they can then hold cabals to assassinate both character and ministries-(aka “lamenting lack of standards”)

How truly frightening it must be to live in a siege “hold the fort” mentality, sitting around wondering who will be the next to be picked off.

How sad to reduce the concept to Holiness before God to compliance with a rulebook based on 50 year old North American “distinctives”.

Lord forgive them and grant them peace and a true understanding of Your love and holiness, in the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen"

What is an FB?

mizpeh 07-08-2009 09:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 769837)
What is an FB?

Facebook

MrMasterMind 07-08-2009 10:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GraceAmazing (Post 769797)
This actually happened to me. I got a nasty message in my inbox about how I was "looked up" to and I had totally let them and God down, not to mention my family. Really upset me...for a few minutes :D

People...you just can't predict them!!

Truly sad I have had three pastors PM me that this has happened to them as well, from people they thought were friends.

tv1a 07-08-2009 10:18 PM

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It is obvious inappropriateness is extremely subjective. To have the God Squad looking trouble is more disturbing than the "inappropriateness".

Quote:

Originally Posted by oletime (Post 769698)
Why would you post anything inappropiate on fb or any place else. God himself can look at my fb. Check that , come to think of it he does lol, Ps Dont put your address on there or anything personal like a pic of your house or any kind of personal info. Dont brag about your job or your place of employment, trade skills ie. wage brackets in specific ways, No ones business. its just common sense!


TJJJ 07-08-2009 11:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 769705)
This is the type of picture the would find if they "tricked" me. :)

(WARNING: If you are offended by images of man showing skin above the elbow or a woman's midriff DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK! You have been warned!!!) It is us at Dunns River Falls in Jamaica.
http://randyandgail.com/DSC02892.JPG

Can you see this pic on the cover of the latest issue of the Apostolic Contender?

Randy,

All us AFA ultrcons know that you are backslidden and reprobate and on the slippery slope to a devils hell, and, and, and.....

Why, Jamaica, and all them devilish places that you go to.....:thumbsup

By the way, what is facebook? I mean, I have seen some faces that look like a book but....

LOL

All in good humor folks,

RandyWayne 07-08-2009 11:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 769897)
Randy,

All us AFA ultrcons know that you are backslidden and reprobate and on the slippery slope to a devils hell, and, and, and.....

Why, Jamaica, and all them devilish places that you go to.....:thumbsup

By the way, what is facebook? I mean, I have seen some faces that look like a book but....

LOL

All in good humor folks,

Well, on the thread where I posted several of our vacation pics I did mention that I was very careful in what I selected and heavily edited (cropped) a few others.
The link I gave in THIS thread had ample warning! :)

Makes me wish I could publish an application on this board where I posted a link that said "Warning! Do not click here! Porn! Porn! Porn!", and then post the names of the people, in real time, as they clicked on it for all to see with big letters that said GOTCHYA!. LOL

By the way, the link I posted was NOT porn, but a reference to the subject of the thread. An example of pics that an UC would see who tried to befriend me on Facebook (for the purpose of getting dirt).

TJJJ 07-08-2009 11:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 769899)
Well, on the thread where I posted several of our vacation pics I did mention that I was very careful in what I selected and heavily edited (cropped) a few others.
The link I gave in THIS thread had ample warning! :)

:ursofunny


So true, so true,

We just had good service tonight,

Lord Bless

TJJJ

oletime 07-09-2009 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 769837)
What is an FB?

ahh, its a forum for those who are mostly non upc. kinda like aff ! beware prospective employers are known "GAWKERS" as some like to say !

GraceAmazing 07-09-2009 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oletime (Post 769909)
ahh, its a forum for those who are mostly non upc. kinda like aff ! beware prospective employers are known "GAWKERS" as some like to say !

Actually, the UPC is all over Facebook, so that point is mute. As for AFF, I like it here!!! And you're right, there are a lot of non-UPC people on here, like Bro. Epley! Whom I appreciate very much despite our differences! :thumbsup

U376977 07-09-2009 09:17 AM

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But there is another side....

We had a young guy who posted pics of his drunken b-day party. Kid was our drummer and everyone thought was "living holy." But pics of holding bottles of whiskey and being hung on by girls about half dressed, he was shirltess...needless to say with the judgmental spirit in churches it almost destroyed the kid, he was talked about for weeks, I hated what happened. I would have contained it and handled it private, but he posted the pics and everyone found out. He is going to another apostolic church now and doing better.

We have another teenage girl who posted some sexual type pics and was talking about boys had comments like, "u ho" and "OMG he's so hot", "I would do him" Her mother had no idea. She was a perfect angel in her eyes.

I have a facebook/myspace pg. and there is nothing there to hide. I really don't care who views.

That being said....for an org. to dig into FB and investigate their preachers and prospects....is sick....I would walk away and tell them all where they could stick it.

GrowingPains 07-09-2009 09:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by U376977 (Post 769975)
But there is another side....

We had a young guy who posted pics of his drunken b-day party. Kid was our drummer and everyone thought was "living holy." But pics of holding bottles of whiskey and being hung on by girls about half dressed, he was shirltess...needless to say with the judgmental spirit in churches it almost destroyed the kid, he was talked about for weeks, I hated what happened. I would have contained it and handled it private, but he posted the pics and everyone found out. He is going to another apostolic church now and doing better.

We have another teenage girl who posted some sexual type pics and was talking about boys had comments like, "u ho" and "OMG he's so hot", "I would do him" Her mother had no idea. She was a perfect angel in her eyes.

I have a facebook/myspace pg. and there is nothing there to hide. I really don't care who views.

That being said....for an org. to dig into FB and investigate their preachers and prospects....is sick....I would walk away and tell them all where they could stick it.

Employers use it often for screening candidates! It's the new HR craze! If it's not appropriate for you soon-to-be boss to see it, you may not want to post your exhibitionism to the world. And that's just simple common sense... wisdom.

oletime 07-09-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GraceAmazing (Post 769925)
Actually, the UPC is all over Facebook, so that point is mute. As for AFF, I like it here!!! And you're right, there are a lot of non-UPC people on here, like Bro. Epley! Whom I appreciate very much despite our differences! :thumbsup

just a joke, ga not a point,sometimes, actually almost all the time my humour is kinda twisted, in a good way i hope, peace

Pastor Keith 07-09-2009 12:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 769649)
I do limit who can see some of my photo albums, mainly because I don't like the idea of strangers viewing pictures of my kids.

However, that isn't the point. What kind of person takes the time to go through facebook and myspace albums so they can report back to pastors or peers any misdeeds or controversy?

That in and of itself is quite the attitude problem. :coffee2

The same guys who take a promienet pastor's wife and use her photos to bash him for his liberalism. A low blow!

Aquila 07-09-2009 12:38 PM

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I think they want to discredit ministers because once discredited that leaves more people turning to them... that's more money in their pockets.

Michlow 07-09-2009 02:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oletime (Post 769698)
Why would you post anything inappropiate on fb or any place else. God himself can look at my fb. Check that , come to think of it he does lol, Ps Dont put your address on there or anything personal like a pic of your house or any kind of personal info. Dont brag about your job or your place of employment, trade skills ie. wage brackets in specific ways, No ones business. its just common sense!

I am a pretty transparent person, but I did have a few second thoughts in the beginning about being facebook friends with people from AFF.

Though I am open on this site about what I do (and don't) believe, I also do my best to follow both the rules of the forum, and my own conscience (when it comes to not knowingly offending others ).

However, my facebook friends are a hodgepodge of friends and family from all different religions / lifestyles. And I made a decision in the beginning that I wasn't going to censor myself there.

Of course, I don't exactly think that anything I said or did on facebook or anywhere else would surprise anyone :D

oletime 07-09-2009 03:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 770215)
I am a pretty transparent person, but I did have a few second thoughts in the beginning about being facebook friends with people from AFF.

Though I am open on this site about what I do (and don't) believe, I also do my best to follow both the rules of the forum, and my own conscience (when it comes to not knowingly offending others ).

However, my facebook friends are a hodgepodge of friends and family from all different religions / lifestyles. And I made a decision in the beginning that I wasn't going to censor myself there.

Of course, I don't exactly think that anything I said or did on facebook or anywhere else would surprise anyone :D

love that star avatar. im jealous!


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