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Hoovie 07-09-2009 05:06 PM

Is Racism Rising Because of Black President?
 

"Out of nowhere, the six were attacked by dozens of teenage boys, who shouted ''This is our world'' and ''This is a black world'' as they confronted Marshall and his family.

The Marshalls, who are white, say the crowd of teens who attacked them and two friends June 27 on Girard Street numbered close to 50. The teens were all black."

"Marshall was the most seriously injured. He suffered a concussion and multiple bruises to his head and eye. He said he spent five nights in the critical care unit at Akron General Medical Center.

The construction worker said he now fears for his family's safety, and the thousands of dollars in medical bills he faces without insurance."


This family was just watching a Fourth of July fireworks display when attacked.

The article states the case is not being treated as a hate crime... isn't that weird?

http://www.ohio.com/news/50172282.html

Monkeyman 07-09-2009 05:10 PM

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No, racism never left.

Hoovie 07-09-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 770426)
No, racism never left.

Right. I phrased it that way because there was a lot of media concern that racism would rise when the election had first occurred.

U376977 07-09-2009 05:16 PM

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always there. just becoming more visible. Recently, we have had a few racial comments by African Americans at church.

Scott Hutchinson 07-09-2009 06:23 PM

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Of course there are whites who are racist,but there are African Americans who are racist as well ,sad to say there that racism comes in all shades.

Here in my small southeren town,I see that Spirit on both sides of the fence.

CC1 07-09-2009 06:31 PM

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Where is Tstew? I figured he would have jumped in with both feet.

tstew 07-09-2009 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 770454)
Where is Tstew? I figured he would have jumped in with both feet.

LOL...my reputation precedes me. I don't have tons of time now, so I'll just answer the question directly for now.

No, I don't think racism is rising because of a black President (the terrible incident in Akron notwithstanding). I have not heard of a great epidemic of such events since the election.

I personally think that in matters of race, having a black President will have the effect of positively affecting racism in ways that will pay great dividends particularly in the younger and future generations.


Was that good enough for now? :)

Scott Hutchinson 07-09-2009 06:48 PM

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Where I live and this is not a broadbrush statement but alot of black folk seem angry about things that have happened in the past,and seem to want to get even and strike out at white people.

I understand terrible things happened during jim crow,but the present generation had nothing to do with the past.

Personally I'm glad that jim crow is over and we can judge people for their fruit and not by their race.

I think racism manifests itself because of demonic spirits and not because of who is holding office.

Jermyn Davidson 07-09-2009 07:07 PM

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yes.

People, on the many sides of the dodecahedron fence are vulnerable to influence from a variety of people, situations and events.

Somewhere there is a white guy reading about what happened in Akron. He will be disturbed by this a great deal.

Then something stupid happens to him personally, though not as bad-- the perpetrators involved will be black. Maybe he'll just simply witness something and his perception is already skewed.

That some white guy, a few years later is involved in a plot to bomb a black church and Americans, ignorantly shocked, will ask themselves, "What happened to little Johnny-- he comes from a good family!"


The question is about our black President.

The recent political "Tea Party" in Jacksonville, FL was so EMOTIONALLY charged as the organizers compared our AMerican President to Hitler!

It was a demonstration of free speech that I found so vile and disgusting and it wouldn't be happening if Obama wasn't President.

That "Tea Party", "Akron", the snot nosed punk that won't pull his pants up and the white guy who a few weeks, months or years from now who has a bad day or a group of bad days... it all adds up for some.


Replace the white guy in the scenario with the black, Hispanic or Arab guy-- it's all so realistic today, and not just in America.


We're talking about human nature and every day life-- light and darkness, good and evil, positive and negative perceptions and reactions to the not so mundane that forge our thoughts and actions.


It's good to strive to be the best person you can be.
Individually, we all represent so much to sooooo many people.

Scott Hutchinson 07-09-2009 07:12 PM

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I didn't vote for President obama,but it wasn't because of his race,and I have voted for black people before,I like Alan Keyes,on my job during election time I would not talk politics because alot of people assumed if you weren't for Mr.Obama that you were racist,so I refrained from discussing politics on my job.

Cindy 07-09-2009 07:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 770466)
LOL...my reputation precedes me. I don't have tons of time now, so I'll just answer the question directly for now.

No, I don't think racism is rising because of a black President (the terrible incident in Akron notwithstanding). I have not heard of a great epidemic of such events since the election.

I personally think that in matters of race, having a black President will have the effect of positively affecting racism in ways that will pay great dividends particularly in the younger and future generations.


Was that good enough for now? :)

I agree.

Hoovie 07-09-2009 09:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 770466)
LOL...my reputation precedes me. I don't have tons of time now, so I'll just answer the question directly for now.

No, I don't think racism is rising because of a black President (the terrible incident in Akron notwithstanding). I have not heard of a great epidemic of such events since the election.

I personally think that in matters of race, having a black President will have the effect of positively affecting racism in ways that will pay great dividends particularly in the younger and future generations.


Was that good enough for now? :)

I would have to agree with the bold, though I am torn because I think Obama's policies are causing and will cause a lasting scar on America - including those of his own race.

Short term perhaps, racial tension is increased but there are positive long term aspects based on skin color I suppose.

IMO opinion skin color alone is not a good reason to support or oppose a president.

Sam 07-09-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 770423)
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The article states the case is not being treated as a hate crime... isn't that weird?

http://www.ohio.com/news/50172282.html

No, it is not weird that it is not being treated as a hate crime. It is only a hate crime if it is perpetuated against certain designated groups. A crime against a white male (unless he is gay) would not be designated as a hate crime.

Hoovie 07-10-2009 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 770569)
No, it is not weird that it is not being treated as a hate crime. It is only a hate crime if it is perpetuated against certain designated groups. A crime against a white male (unless he is gay) would not be designated as a hate crime.

How could that possibly be? I don't know which is worse in this case then... The racism of the gang or the racism of the police!

Adino 07-10-2009 08:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 770423)

"Out of nowhere, the six were attacked by dozens of teenage boys, who shouted ''This is our world'' and ''This is a black world'' as they confronted Marshall and his family.

The Marshalls, who are white, say the crowd of teens who attacked them and two friends June 27 on Girard Street numbered close to 50. The teens were all black."

"Marshall was the most seriously injured. He suffered a concussion and multiple bruises to his head and eye. He said he spent five nights in the critical care unit at Akron General Medical Center.

The construction worker said he now fears for his family's safety, and the thousands of dollars in medical bills he faces without insurance."


This family was just watching a Fourth of July fireworks display when attacked.

The article states the case is not being treated as a hate crime... isn't that weird?

http://www.ohio.com/news/50172282.html

Reminds me of events in my family.

A second cousin of mine was hung in his backyard by a group of fellow students from his high school. My uncle showed up just in time to save his life. He found him dangling from a pole with a clothesline wrapped around his neck about to lose consciousness. After surviving this encounter, the same family member was again assaulted by another group on another day on the way home from school. This time the young attackers threw him in a garage, doused him with gasoline and lit him on fire. Miraculously, he did survive, but bears horrible scars of the incident to this day.

The school was in Detroit. The incidents were of complete racial motivation. My family member was white, his assaulters black.

While these events took place many years ago, it certainly gives evidence racism 'of that sort' has been around for some time. I don't think any objective thinker can look at the recent election and say it did not fuel existing feelings of racial tension.

Aside from the Black Panther voting intimidation incident and the subsequent dropping of related charges by the new administration, the voting demographics are unavoidably eye opening. With an astounding 95% of the black vote going to Obama vs a much more balanced 43% of the white vote it seems blatantly apparent many allowed the issue of skin color to be their determining factor and not the content of character.

A globalist of any color who looks to ensure global 'equality' must, of necessity, tear down a global super power. The question remains, why would the people of a super power put a globalist at the helm when to do so would be an act of national suicide? 95% just because his skin matches? I admit I have a difficult time understanding how this isn't a slap in the face to the man who once said, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character".

It is said that the first question recorded in Scripture by man is "Am I my brother's keeper?"

It is said that the rest of the bible goes on to answer this question with an emphatic YES. We are the keepers of our brethren.

Lord, help us to be the keepers of all our brethren regardless of color and, Lord, let us not throw away what so many have given their lives to ensure.

rgcraig 07-10-2009 08:51 AM

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I live in Memphis - it's hard to comment on things of this topic.

n david 07-10-2009 09:13 AM

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Switch the color for the group and family involved and it would have been classified as a hate crime.

I've been against "hate crime" status from the beginning because it's really reverse racism. Anytime a white attacks an african american, hispanic, etc it's automatically considered a hate crime ... flip it around and it's generally not classified as a "hate" crime.

They need to just do away with the hate crime status and punish the guilty to the fullest extent of the law already in the books.

Sam 07-10-2009 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 770645)
Switch the color for the group and family involved and it would have been classified as a hate crime.

I've been against "hate crime" status from the beginning because it's really reverse racism. Anytime a white attacks an african american, hispanic, etc it's automatically considered a hate crime ... flip it around and it's generally not classified as a "hate" crime.

They need to just do away with the hate crime status and punish the guilty to the fullest extent of the law already in the books.

I agree.

Why is it more wrong to assault an African American (or other certain "protected minorities")than to assault a Caucasian? Isn't legislation like this sending the message that persons of color are of more worth than white people? Or that gays are of more worth than straight people?

And why is it that only white people can be considered "racist"?

missourimary 07-10-2009 05:32 PM

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I think amongst certain low mentalities of all colors, racism increased prior to and until shortly after the election. I'm not sure having a black president has actually intensified racism, however. I saw first hand how racism against whites was affecting some during the election. One woman campaigned for Obama at work, sending me (and everyone else she could) e-mails referring to "us" (blacks) and "them" (whoever doesn't like Obama). Several black friends were electioneered at the polls by comments about "vote for one of our own". From contacts I have, there is a strong possibility that some racist activity against whites is being brushed under the rug by the media. Racist speech increased at my church dramatically.

But racism was already there. I live in an area where there is a lot of racism. Whites are cussed, called "crackers" in classrooms, informed that more teachers should be black and hispanic. People of all colors are labeled in demeaning ways. I was informed when someone filed an EEO complaint against me the first time, "well, you're white, you must be guilty". Racism has been part of the poor attitude of a few for way too long.

I have marked those that cause division and stepped away from certain groups where this attitude runs rampant. I know it is still quite rampant in some circles at work and in church. One thing is certain, the events of the last year brought the racism that was in people's hearts to light in their actions.

Truthseeker 07-10-2009 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 770636)
I live in Memphis - it's hard to comment on things of this topic.

Why?

Sam 07-10-2009 11:22 PM

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Some racists voted for BHO because of his perceived race.
Some racists voted against BHO because of his perceived race.

Hoovie 07-13-2009 12:48 PM

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Don't know what to think of the following story.
Mr Brown was encouraged to seek the mayoral office because of Barack Obama's victory but, when he won, some supporters head over to his opponent to unload obscenities...

Also, and perhaps the most troubling, Mr Brown ran with promises of lots of free stuff:

"I just want the people to be comfortable. Small towns like this depend on government funding and that’s what we’re seeking."

"The town’s facilities were substandard, he said, gesturing towards the humble town hall, where a “No Loitering” sign is nailed next to the door. “There isn’t even a phone or a fax machine in there. How can we communicate with the outside world and ask for things?" "
Here is the full story.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ack-mayor.html

DividedThigh 07-13-2009 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 770466)
LOL...my reputation precedes me. I don't have tons of time now, so I'll just answer the question directly for now.

No, I don't think racism is rising because of a black President (the terrible incident in Akron notwithstanding). I have not heard of a great epidemic of such events since the election.

I personally think that in matters of race, having a black President will have the effect of positively affecting racism in ways that will pay great dividends particularly in the younger and future generations.


Was that good enough for now? :)

well if his policies are inacted you wont have any money and neither will i, so we will all be in the soup line, lol

DividedThigh 07-13-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 771027)
Some racists voted for BHO because of his perceived race.
Some racists voted against BHO because of his perceived race.

i voted against obama because i am not a socialist, dt


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