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CC1 07-15-2009 10:29 PM

People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
While I don't proclaim to subscribe to the light doctrine I do believe that there are some individuals that due to certain circumstances are sure to make heaven no matter their doctrincal beliefs.

I have no biblical proof of this doctrine and so offer no defense of it. I do offer up some of my canidates for this doctrinre;

PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL DOCTRINE:

1. Person who invented air conditioning.
2. Person who discovered chocolate
3. Person who invented ice cream
4. Person who invented "frying" as a form of cooking foods. In particular chicken.
5. Person who invented the hot water heater
6. Thomas Edison and others who either invented or worked to perfect electricity.

I am sure there are more in this special catagory but at this time of night these are the ones that come to mind.:thumbsup

Who are your candiates?

deadeye 07-15-2009 10:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 773170)
While I don't proclaim to subscribe to the light doctrine I do believe that there are some individuals that due to certain circumstances are sure to make heaven no matter their doctrincal beliefs.

I have no biblical proof of this doctrine and so offer no defense of it. I do offer up some of my canidates for this doctrinre;

PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL DOCTRINE:

1. Person who invented air conditioning.
2. Person who discovered chocolate
3. Person who invented ice cream
4. Person who invented "frying" as a form of cooking foods. In particular chicken.
5. Person who invented the hot water heater
6. Thomas Edison and others who either invented or worked to perfect electricity.

I am sure there are more in this special catagory but at this time of night these are the ones that come to mind.:thumbsup

Who are your candiates?



You may be on to something there...

pelathais 07-15-2009 10:32 PM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 773170)
While I don't proclaim to subscribe to the light doctrine I do believe that there are some individuals that due to certain circumstances are sure to make heaven no matter their doctrincal beliefs.

I have no biblical proof of this doctrine and so offer no defense of it. I do offer up some of my canidates for this doctrinre;

PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL DOCTRINE:

1. Person who invented air conditioning.
2. Person who discovered chocolate
3. Person who invented ice cream
4. Person who invented "frying" as a form of cooking foods. In particular chicken.
5. Person who invented the hot water heater
6. Thomas Edison and others who either invented or worked to perfect electricity.

I am sure there are more in this special catagory but at this time of night these are the ones that come to mind.:thumbsup

Who are your candiates?

I personally heard an Assistant General Superintendent say that "God would make an exception" for Paul Harvey, Louis L'Amour and Rush Limbaugh.

Hoovie 07-15-2009 10:46 PM

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...and chimney sweeps who sweep in July with 108 heat index...

Aquila 07-15-2009 10:57 PM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Ignatius of Antioch
St. Polycarp
Irenaeus
St. Antony
Basil the Great
St. Gregory I the Great
William of St. Thierry
Bernard of Clairvaux
Hildegard of Bingen
Richard of St. Victor
Hugh of St. Victor,
St. Francis of Assisi
Albertus Magnus
Beatrice of Nazareth
Mechthild of Magdeburg
Bonaventure
St. Bonaventure
St. Thomas Aquinas
Angela of Foligno
St. Gertrude
Jan van Ruysbroeck
Henry Suso
Johannes Tauler
Richard Rolle
Birgitta (Brigida)
Walter Hilton
Julian of Norwich
Catherine of Siena
Thomas à Kempis
St. Catherine of Genoa
Teresa of Avila
St. John of the Cross
Venerable Luis de Lapuente
St. Francis de Sales
St. Margaret Mary Alacoque
Anne Catherine Emmerich
Sister Emmerich
Saint Catherine Labouré
John Wycliffe
William Tyndale
John Huss
Martin Luther
John Calvin
John Knox
George Fox
John Wesley
Charles Wesley
George Whitfield
Johnathan Edwards
Charles Finney
Dwight L. Moody
Charles Spurgeon (personal favorite of mine)

Oh, and I almost forgot - crakjak & Bro. Epley

Aquila 07-15-2009 11:27 PM

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I sincerely hope I'm saved, but with my luck, even if I am saved, Heaven will loose my RSVP for 10,000 years while I roast in Purgatory on the edge of the lake of fire. Once they find my UPCI baptismal certificate they'll allow me in - but they’ll be all out of white robes. So I’ll be issued a fuchsia bathrobe that once belonged to Charles Spurgeon (a favorite preacher of mine, but a smoker *cough cough*). Then when I finally get to the Marriage Supper they’ll be all out of Lamb and Ham so I’ll get stuck eating cold corn and what’s left of the green beans and hummus - and to top off my first day in Heaven … in the New Jerusalem I'll get the room at the end of a 144,000 cubit hallway next to the noisy ice-machine. My room mate will be a Cherubim with a speech impediment who won’t stop saying, “Howey howey howey ith duh Wud Gwud Awewighty.”, for what seems like an eternity. Then they'll relocate me out to a fixer-upper mansion on the South side of the Crystal Sea. As it turns out, crackjak will be right and Hitler will be moved in right next door - and our Heavenly property values will drop. To make matters worse my immediate neighbors to the East will be a bunch of rowdy Christian Reincarnationists who are just renting.

Oh well... I'm sure it could be worse.

GraceAmazing 07-16-2009 06:33 AM

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ROFL!!!! That was hilarious!!! And...it might all be true too! ;)

*AQuietPlace* 07-16-2009 08:43 AM

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That was pretty funny, Aquila. :D

Especially the line about the reincarnationists. :ursofunny

Timmy 07-16-2009 08:51 AM

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There's the flip side, too. What's going to happen to the guy that invented the robocall?

*AQuietPlace* 07-16-2009 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 773290)
There's the flip side, too. What's going to happen to the guy that invented the robocall?

He gets Aquila's treatment.

Timmy 07-16-2009 08:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 773292)
He gets Aquila's treatment.

LOL :thumbsup

warrior 07-16-2009 08:57 AM

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Aquila, that was sooo funny. I do hope you will get a better neighbor. Hitler wasn't the friendliest person. Maybe you will luck up anybody else. I can't even think of a worst person than Hitler.

warrior 07-16-2009 08:58 AM

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Robocall guy doesn't enter heaven at all. He gets to look into the windows only wishing he could come in.

Timmy 07-16-2009 09:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by warrior (Post 773295)
Robocall guy doesn't enter heaven at all. He gets to look into the windows only wishing he could come in.

Let's put him in a room with an awesome dinner on the table, and every time he sits down and he's about to take a bite, the phone rings! :ursofunny Of course, he is magically forced to put the fork down and answer it and listen to, well, you know.

warrior 07-16-2009 09:43 AM

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Sorry Timmy, but that isn't punishment enough for Hitler. He gets a free pass straight to hell.

Timmy 07-16-2009 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by warrior (Post 773320)
Sorry Timmy, but that isn't punishment enough for Hitler. He gets a free pass straight to hell.

That was for robocall guy. Hitler? We can think of better for him, but it probably shouldn't be posted here. :winkgrin

Mercy 07-16-2009 10:38 AM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 773191)
I sincerely hope I'm saved, but with my luck, even if I am saved, Heaven will loose my RSVP for 10,000 years while I roast in Purgatory on the edge of the lake of fire. Once they find my UPCI baptismal certificate they'll allow me in - but they’ll be all out of white robes. So I’ll be issued a fuchsia bathrobe that once belonged to Charles Spurgeon (a favorite preacher of mine, but a smoker *cough cough*). Then when I finally get to the Marriage Supper they’ll be all out of Lamb and Ham so I’ll get stuck eating cold corn and what’s left of the green beans and hummus - and to top off my first day in Heaven … in the New Jerusalem I'll get the room at the end of a 144,000 cubit hallway next to the noisy ice-machine. My room mate will be a Cherubim with a speech impediment who won’t stop saying, “Howey howey howey ith duh Wud Gwud Awewighty.”, for what seems like an eternity. Then they'll relocate me out to a fixer-upper mansion on the South side of the Crystal Sea. As it turns out, crackjak will be right and Hitler will be moved in right next door - and our Heavenly property values will drop. To make matters worse my immediate neighbors to the East will be a bunch of rowdy Christian Reincarnationists who are just renting.

Oh well... I'm sure it could be worse.


This was hilarious. And especially when I read it in the voice of the Donkey from Winnie the Pooh.

Hoovie 07-16-2009 02:27 PM

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Sorry to be a dissenter... but I "deserve" hell as much as Hitler - there is no good thing in me save Christ.

Saul (Paul) too was evil and feared like Hitler.

missourimary 07-16-2009 02:37 PM

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I personally vote for the person that invented chocolate, the one that discovered sugar, and the one who made the first batch of chocolate chip cookies!

Can I vote for myself? :)

Timmy 07-16-2009 02:43 PM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 773541)
Sorry to be a dissenter... but I "deserve" hell as much as Hitler - there is no good thing in me save Christ.

Saul (Paul) too was evil and feared like Hitler.

Nobody's talking about you. It's the chocolate inventor et al. :lol

*AQuietPlace* 07-16-2009 02:56 PM

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I vote for the creator of Coca-Cola.

Tina 07-16-2009 06:16 PM

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The AFF admin team....


























after all, there has to be some kind of reward for us putting up with what we put up with on AFF--and not even get paid for it!













:D

berkeley 07-16-2009 07:54 PM

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The inventor of Splenda...that guy that invented detachable razor cartridges..the genius that said, "Mach 3 isn't good enough, let's add another blade..."the gal who puts up with me and hasn't ran for the hills just yet...

RandyWayne 07-16-2009 07:55 PM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Bob "Mr Baseball" Uecker

crakjak 07-16-2009 09:19 PM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 773541)
Sorry to be a dissenter... but I "deserve" hell as much as Hitler - there is no good thing in me save Christ.

Saul (Paul) too was evil and feared like Hitler.

Amen, thank God for His incomparable love and grace, that gives us security and confidence for the age to come. For truly if we have hope in this life only we are of all men most miserable.

Scott Hutchinson 07-16-2009 09:45 PM

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Whoever invented deordorant and mouthwash ought to get a free-pass for making us smell good.

Aquila 07-16-2009 10:37 PM

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That dude over there holdin' the whatchamacallit.

OneAccord 07-16-2009 11:15 PM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 773170)
While I don't proclaim to subscribe to the light doctrine I do believe that there are some individuals that due to certain circumstances are sure to make heaven no matter their doctrincal beliefs.

I have no biblical proof of this doctrine and so offer no defense of it. I do offer up some of my canidates for this doctrinre;

PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL DOCTRINE:

1. Person who invented air conditioning.
2. Person who discovered chocolate
3. Person who invented ice cream
4. Person who invented "frying" as a form of cooking foods. In particular chicken.
5. Person who invented the hot water heater
6. Thomas Edison and others who either invented or worked to perfect electricity.

I am sure there are more in this special catagory but at this time of night these are the ones that come to mind.:thumbsup

Who are your candiates?

Not that I am biased or anything, but...

Central AC System installers should get a free pas. I mean we work in the winter to give you people heat. We swelter in the heat (often in attics) in summer to keep you people cool. And we rarely ever get to enjoy the fruits of our labors. So...really...can we vote on this?

If Chimney Sweeps get a pass, then their distant and more technically inclined AC cousins should get a pass too.

RandyWayne 07-17-2009 12:55 AM

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I think us IT guys should get a pass too for all the "clean up" work we have to do for our users.

"Don't click on the link.......................!"

But it was too late.

She done already got infected!

Hoovie 07-17-2009 06:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 773793)
Not that I am biased or anything, but...

Central AC System installers should get a free pas. I mean we work in the winter to give you people heat. We swelter in the heat (often in attics) in summer to keep you people cool. And we rarely ever get to enjoy the fruits of our labors. So...really...can we vote on this?

If Chimney Sweeps get a pass, then their distant and more technically inclined AC cousins should get a pass too.

Sorry man. this is a narrow pass and there is no more room on this perch.

Hoovie 07-17-2009 06:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 773793)
Not that I am biased or anything, but...

Central AC System installers should get a free pas. I mean we work in the winter to give you people heat. We swelter in the heat (often in attics) in summer to keep you people cool. And we rarely ever get to enjoy the fruits of our labors. So...really...can we vote on this?

If Chimney Sweeps get a pass, then their distant and more technically inclined AC cousins should get a pass too.

Sorry man. It is a narrow pass and there is no more room on this perch.

Steve Epley 07-17-2009 07:22 AM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 773170)
While I don't proclaim to subscribe to the light doctrine I do believe that there are some individuals that due to certain circumstances are sure to make heaven no matter their doctrincal beliefs.

I have no biblical proof of this doctrine and so offer no defense of it. I do offer up some of my canidates for this doctrinre;

PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL DOCTRINE:

1. Person who invented air conditioning.
2. Person who discovered chocolate
3. Person who invented ice cream
4. Person who invented "frying" as a form of cooking foods. In particular chicken.
5. Person who invented the hot water heater
6. Thomas Edison and others who either invented or worked to perfect electricity.

I am sure there are more in this special catagory but at this time of night these are the ones that come to mind.:thumbsup

Who are your candiates?

This is exactly what I told a 'light doctrine' doctrine believer if I am going to give a pass to someone it is the guy who invented air conditioning.:thumbsup

Timmy 07-17-2009 07:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 773834)
Sorry man. It is a narrow pass and there is no more room on this perch.

Only room for one of you guys? Hmmm..... fireplace or air conditioning. Hmmmmm. :hmmm

*AQuietPlace* 07-17-2009 08:15 AM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 773867)
Only room for one of you guys? Hmmm..... fireplace or air conditioning. Hmmmmm. :hmmm

Air conditioning, hands down, no contest.

Sorry, Stephen. :D

(my husband would vote just the opposite)

Timmy 07-17-2009 08:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 773885)
Air conditioning, hands down, no contest.

Sorry, Stephen. :D

(my husband would vote just the opposite)

Yeah, bad luck Stephen, the vote being taken in July and all. Maybe you could try again this winter! (But, that a/c guy handles central heating too, I'm afraid.)

Monkeyman 07-17-2009 08:26 AM

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Whoever invented Metamucel...I'm just sayin'

Sam 07-17-2009 08:39 AM

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I was shocked, confused, bewildered
as I entered Heaven's door,
Not by the beauty of it all,
nor the lights or its decor.

But it was the folks in Heaven
who made me sputter and gasp--
the thieves, the liars, the sinners,
the alcoholics, the trash.

There stood the kid from seventh grade
who swiped my lunch money twice.
Next to him was my old neighbor
who never said anything nice.

Herb, who I always thought
was rotting away in hell,
was sitting pretty on cloud nine,
looking incredibly well.

I nudged Jesus, "What's the deal?
I would love to hear Your take.
How'd all these sinners get up here?
You must've made a mistake.

"And why's everyone so quiet,
so somber? Give me a clue."
"Hush, child," said He, "they're all in shock.
No one thought they'd be seeing you."
__________________

Timmy 07-17-2009 08:47 AM

Re: People Going To Heaven No Matter What
 
Then I looked for my friend Timmy,
but he was nowhere to be found.
They said, "He's a deist, so he stays put,
six feet under ground."



:lol

Timmy 07-17-2009 09:02 AM

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Hey, that's a thought! What if what happens to you when you die is exactly what you think will happen? You guys will all go to a wonderful, sinless, trouble-free place, with 24x7 shockamoo or whatever. I'll cease to exist. Hindus will reincarnate. Etc. etc.

Just a thought. :winkgrin

missourimary 07-17-2009 09:10 AM

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Timmy, Heaven would be much more fun if you were there! :)


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