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Esther 07-24-2009 09:03 AM
TV Ministries
 
I know many here disagree with ministers preaching on TV. However, I have two family members that the only "church" they have is via TV.

My uncle passed away yesterday, that was his only way to have church.

My Dad has a hearing problem and breathing problem and he doesn't miss at 3:00 John Hagee.

What do you think?

Justin 07-24-2009 09:21 AM
Re: TV Ministries
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 777100)
I know many here disagree with ministers preaching on TV. However, I have two family members that the only "church" they have is via TV.

My uncle passed away yesterday, that was his only way to have church.

My Dad has a hearing problem and breathing problem and he doesn't miss at 3:00 John Hagee.

What do you think?
I think it's important to also build relationships with fellow Christians as they could strengthen our relationship with God.

HeavenlyOne 07-24-2009 09:49 AM
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My in-laws weren't able to travel to church either, but watched religious programs every day. They were oneness folks but attended the AOG church in their town when they were able to get out because the oneness church was too far for them to drive.

misspresley 07-24-2009 09:52 AM
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TV church has its place - supplement to fellowship with other believers UNLESS you're not physically able to get to "live" church! My aunt says if it wasn't for her TV preachers, she'd never get the "spirited" preaching she hungers for.

Sherri 07-24-2009 09:56 AM
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We have a whole "congregation" of people who never set foot in our doors, but watch Eddie faithfully every week on TV. I have to believe that God is changing their hearts. Also, we have LOTS of people who are now active members who came because of the TV show. We had two new families this past Sunday who came because of it. Every time we think maybe it's too expensive to keep running it, we get new families. It's amazing, really.

deltaguitar 07-24-2009 10:06 AM
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Our church has a broadcast. Lots of people comment on it and let us know they are watching. It is usually the elderly that I hear talking about it and they love it.

Sometimes I wonder if it is worth the work involved but for many it is the only way they might hear the gospel.

misspresley 07-24-2009 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 777138)
We have a whole "congregation" of people who never set foot in our doors, but watch Eddie faithfully every week on TV. I have to believe that God is changing their hearts. Also, we have LOTS of people who are now active members who came because of the TV show. We had two new families this past Sunday who came because of it. Every time we think maybe it's too expensive to keep running it, we get new families. It's amazing, really.
my in-laws watch when too sick to attend church! which is not very often. they love to see him on the screen!!

coadie 07-24-2009 12:08 PM
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I taught home bible studies to a saint that was home bound. After a few months she started sending her tithes to church with me. We have sent her church service tapes for a couple of years. she watches tv and has learned how to filter some false teachings. spit out the seeds. I have had roughly 30 students thru her home over a period of time. For a few people, I am their only church.
I do also have some that can go to church and do the teevee thing instead. That compares worse than tv dinners verses fresh baked bread and home cooking.
Now with the economy we have a little more cacooning. We have people last year that stopped going to church because of gasolene prices. Last year I had one under house arrest.

Twisp 07-24-2009 01:35 PM
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I think you can get the same message over a TV as you could in a church building. That said, I think the decision would a personal one for each person. What may work for some might not work for others.

Scott Hutchinson 07-24-2009 01:40 PM
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These folks broadcast on TV.
http://www.podfeed.net/podcast/First...ennessee/11539

Scott Hutchinson 07-24-2009 01:43 PM
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http://www.thedailytimes.com/article...AITH/307189980

Esther 07-24-2009 02:35 PM
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Sherri I think that is great.

This is another reason why I don't understand why the organization fights being on TV when the trinity has the airwaves and we could be sharing the truth with them.

A.W. Bowman 07-24-2009 02:49 PM
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There are also a number of churches that broadcast (live and down-loadable) from the Internet.

Monkeyman 07-24-2009 03:14 PM
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It's always amazing to me how many people can't make it to church, yet God seems to heal them so they don't miss the sales at Wal-Mart:)

hometown guy 07-24-2009 05:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 777287)
It's always amazing to me how many people can't make it to church, yet God seems to heal them so they don't miss the sales at Wal-Mart:)
That is funny but true.:ursofunny

hometown guy 07-24-2009 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 777100)
I know many here disagree with ministers preaching on TV. However, I have two family members that the only "church" they have is via TV.

My uncle passed away yesterday, that was his only way to have church.

My Dad has a hearing problem and breathing problem and he doesn't miss at 3:00 John Hagee.

What do you think?
There is always tapes and CDs

Esther 07-25-2009 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 777425)
There is always tapes and CDs
IF you have someone dedicated to send them out. But seniors with bad health can not afford to buy them.

Esther 07-25-2009 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 777287)
It's always amazing to me how many people can't make it to church, yet God seems to heal them so they don't miss the sales at Wal-Mart:)
Neither one of them went out much at all. With both having lung disease from smoking so many years, the price to pay has come calling.

But I do know what you mean when folks are to sick to go to church but can go shopping. Well the only exception to that for me would be going to get their medicine or necessary food.

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 777138)
We have a whole "congregation" of people who never set foot in our doors, but watch Eddie faithfully every week on TV.
Sis, I almost fell out when I saw this post!

Now this is the way to accomodate a shy preacher.

Keep the people at home, and preach to the cameraman.

Boys and Girls this country is in a lot of trouble.

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 777149)

Sometimes I wonder if it is worth the work involved but for many it is the only way they might hear the gospel.
Doesn't anyone in your church go out into the community?

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by misspresley (Post 777198)
my in-laws watch when too sick to attend church!
Jas 5:14-15

"Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him."

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 01:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 777246)
I think you can get the same message over a TV as you could in a church building. That said, I think the decision would a personal one for each person. What may work for some might not work for others.
People drive in separate cars apart from others, live in houses and apartments away from others, sit in front of televisions and computers, away and alone.

America we are in a lot of trouble!

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 777268)
Sherri I think that is great.

This is another reason why I don't understand why the organization fights being on TV when the trinity has the airwaves and we could be sharing the truth with them.
Esther, maybe the organization can put you on television, and you can be the "church lady." ;)

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 777287)
It's always amazing to me how many people can't make it to church, yet God seems to heal them so they don't miss the sales at Wal-Mart:)
:heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 777852)
IF you have someone dedicated to send them out. But seniors with bad health can not afford to buy them.
Living for God can be pretty expensive in some areas.

I wonder how much Paul charged for writing his epistles?

misspresley 07-25-2009 01:44 PM
Re: TV Ministries
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 777862)
Jas 5:14-15

"Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him."
The church is the first they call for prayer - it takes a pretty serious illness to keep them away! 82 years and 77 years old. More faithful than alot of younger people I know who don't have health issues!

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 02:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by misspresley (Post 777876)
The church is the first they call for prayer - it takes a pretty serious illness to keep them away! 82 years and 77 years old. More faithful than alot of younger people I know who don't have health issues!
Sister, in the verse I quoted it says to call for the elders, doesn't mean to pick up a telephone. It means that those who have a serious illness must send for the elders, and have them come to anoint and pray for those who have an issue. Back during a time when church was a community, anyone who was sick was being taken care of through personal prayers and personal ministry. No need for separation, dis-fellowship, and coldness of a television screen to replace real live Brothers and Sisters who will love and care for you.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

hometown guy 07-25-2009 03:28 PM
Re: TV Ministries
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 777852)
IF you have someone dedicated to send them out. But seniors with bad health can not afford to buy them.
If they sold there T.V. i'm sure they could get a good supply of CDs and have people burn them.

misspresley 07-25-2009 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 777889)
Sister, in the verse I quoted it says to call for the elders, doesn't mean to pick up a telephone. It means that those who have a serious illness must send for the elders, and have them come to anoint and pray for those who have an issue. Back during a time when church was a community, anyone who was sick was being taken care of through personal prayers and personal ministry. No need for separation, dis-fellowship, and coldness of a television screen to replace real live Brothers and Sisters who will love and care for you.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com
respectfully, the call to the church brings someone to pray and make sure any other needs are met during time of sickness, especially life-threatning illness!! Believe me, God has come on the scene many time and healed - I agree that we all need that fellowship of believers - for they're more than that, they're our family. Blessings to you.

Sherri 07-25-2009 04:46 PM
Re: TV Ministries
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 777858)
Sis, I almost fell out when I saw this post!

Now this is the way to accomodate a shy preacher.

Keep the people at home, and preach to the cameraman.

Boys and Girls this country is in a lot of trouble.
Well, he does encourage them to come out to church, but you can't force people. Alot of them end up coming, but if they won't come, I'd rather they hear truth on TV than no where!!! And........we do not take money from the TV crowd.

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 05:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 777935)
Well, he does encourage them to come out to church, but you can't force people.
You're correct, Jesus and His apostles are not about force.

The church is supposed to tell it like it is, and then the sinners make the decision to walk the path. A narrow path with a strait gate where Jesus told us to enter in.

When I was in the world I always thought the preachers on television didn't know what was going on in the real world. When people would be hanging out at my house, I would click through the channels, and stop on one of the many T.V. preachers. I saw that it was a show, and they would quote a scripture, and then proceed to tell a story about how we needed to invite Jesus into ouur hearts. At the end of every show, they would lead their audience into a sinner's prayer. I guess it is pretty much the same now as it was then. When the time came for me to come to Jesus, I needed a real live preacher to point the way. Not some joker having his church services televised (NOT SAYING THAT ABOUT YOU AND BROTHER EDDIE!!!!) or some opportunist televangelist ripping off little old ladies for their social security checks. Real one on one live and in person, ministry of the preachers and the saints working together to reach the lost.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 777935)
Alot of them end up coming, but if they won't come, I'd rather they hear truth on TV than no where!!!
You all tell them that there is NO Trinity? You tell your viewing audience that they need to be water baptized in Jesus name, and get in filled with the Holy Ghost and speak with tongues? You tell those in T.V. land that they must obey Acts 2:38?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 777935)
And........we do not take money from the TV crowd.
Who pays for the air time?

BrotherEastman 07-25-2009 05:50 PM
Re: TV Ministries
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther (Post 777100)
I know many here disagree with ministers preaching on TV. However, I have two family members that the only "church" they have is via TV.

My uncle passed away yesterday, that was his only way to have church.

My Dad has a hearing problem and breathing problem and he doesn't miss at 3:00 John Hagee.

What do you think?
You really wanna know what I think? I don't watch John Hagee. *winks*

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 06:05 PM
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John Hagee Jesus is not the Messiah

Cut and paste those words into a search engine.

Televangelists like this joker, need to be tarred and feathered, and ran out of town on a rail.

hometown guy 07-25-2009 06:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 777963)
John Hagee Jesus is not the Messiah

Cut and paste those words into a search engine.

Televangelists like this joker, need to be tarred and feathered, and ran out of town on a rail.
Careful, your breaking forum rules. You might get in trouble for tearing down a preacher……….(now I need to repent for calling him a preacher)

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 06:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 777988)
Careful, your breaking forum rules. You might get in trouble for tearing down a preacher……….(now I need to repent for calling him a preacher)
I think he is now a Rabbi?

Sherri 07-25-2009 06:51 PM
Re: TV Ministries
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 777949)
You're correct, Jesus and His apostles are not about force.

The church is supposed to tell it like it is, and then the sinners make the decision to walk the path. A narrow path with a strait gate where Jesus told us to enter in.

When I was in the world I always thought the preachers on television didn't know what was going on in the real world. When people would be hanging out at my house, I would click through the channels, and stop on one of the many T.V. preachers. I saw that it was a show, and they would quote a scripture, and then proceed to tell a story about how we needed to invite Jesus into ouur hearts. At the end of every show, they would lead their audience into a sinner's prayer. I guess it is pretty much the same now as it was then. When the time came for me to come to Jesus, I needed a real live preacher to point the way. Not some joker having his church services televised (NOT SAYING THAT ABOUT YOU AND BROTHER EDDIE!!!!) or some opportunist televangelist ripping off little old ladies for their social security checks. Real one on one live and in person, ministry of the preachers and the saints working together to reach the lost.




You all tell them that there is NO Trinity? You tell your viewing audience that they need to be water baptized in Jesus name, and get in filled with the Holy Ghost and speak with tongues? You tell those in T.V. land that they must obey Acts 2:38?



Who pays for the air time?
Yes, every sermon he preaches on Sunday morning (and some midweeks) get televised. We don't hide what we believe. When he does a series on Repentance, Baptism and Holy Ghost (which he just finished one a few weeks ago), they are always televised. We do not teach that you have to speak in tongues to be saved, but that it is necessary to live an overcoming life. And he preaches why we are baptized in Jesus' name. So that's what is televised, just like it's preached at our church.

We pay the television time from our church budget. We got a really good price, and it reaches about five states - just a God thing.

Trust me, Eddie is NOT your typical TV preacher. In fact, it's kind of a joke, because he never liked TV preachers and then God led us to have a show. We have so many people say that he's the only preacher on TV that seems "real". Lots of places that we go to eat or shop, people are always telling us that they watch every week. That gives us an opportunity to invite them to church.

So don't lump all TV preachers together; they are not all alike.

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2009 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 777993)
Yes, every sermon he preaches on Sunday morning (and some midweeks) get televised. We don't hide what we believe. When he does a series on Repentance, Baptism and Holy Ghost (which he just finished one a few weeks ago), they are always televised. We do not teach that you have to speak in tongues to be saved, but that it is necessary to live an overcoming life. And he preaches why we are baptized in Jesus' name. So that's what is televised, just like it's preached at our church.

We pay the television time from our church budget. We got a really good price, and it reaches about five states - just a God thing.
Five states? Interesting, and you teach that there is no trinity on the television?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 777993)
Trust me, Eddie is NOT your typical TV preacher. In fact, it's kind of a joke, because he never liked TV preachers and then God led us to have a show.
Now Brother Eddies doesn't like any television preachers but himself? :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 777993)
We have so many people say that he's the only preacher on TV that seems "real". Lots of places that we go to eat or shop, people are always telling us that they watch every week. That gives us an opportunity to invite them to church.
Wow, I am trying to understand how Brother Eddie is not being traumatized through all this? He is shy right? So, Brother Eddie gets dragged to restaurants where they throw rolls at him, and then he must endure people fawning over him and wanting to have him sign napkins, have him take pictures with them, and drag him to adjacent tables where they can introduce him to total unknowns. Is your church televised down here in Fort Lauderdale?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 777993)
So don't lump all TV preachers together; they are not all alike.
No disrespect to you or Brother Eddie, I am hard pressed to believe that television can translate into something worth while. If you are happy with it, then that is all that should matter to you. I think television is a medium that is used for one purpose, and one purpose only. To control and guide the huddled masses off the nearest cliff.

Lord love both of you. ;)

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

hometown guy 07-25-2009 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 778007)
Five states? Interesting, and you teach that there is no trinity on the television?



Now Brother Eddies doesn't like any television preachers but himself? :)



Wow, I am trying to understand how Brother Eddie is not being traumatized through all this? He is shy right? So, Brother Eddie gets dragged to restaurants where they throw rolls at him, and then he must endure people fawning over him and wanting to have him sign napkins, have him take pictures with them, and drag him to adjacent tables where they can introduce him to total unknowns. Is your church televised down here in Fort Lauderdale?




No disrespect to you or Brother Eddie, I am hard pressed to believe that television can translate into something worth while. If you are happy with it, then that is all that should matter to you. I think television is a medium that is used for one purpose, and one purpose only. To control and guide the huddled masses off the nearest cliff.
Lord love both of you. ;)

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com
Yeah, but if there conscience can be eased While going off the cliff by watching televangelist then go for it.

Sherri 07-25-2009 07:53 PM
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You guys are unbelievable! :foottapWould you rather they sit at home and watch Gunsmoke than to hear Godly preaching? At least they're getting some truths pumped into them and you have to believe that His word will do a work in them.

And EB, we don't use the words Trinity OR Oneness. We teach that there is one God and His name is Jesus, but we don't bash Trinitarians. And we DO have sermons on TV on Jesus' name baptism.

And just FYI, so far no one has asked for an autograph! LOL!! I should have never told you he was shy; you won't leave it alone!:sad

HEY!!! MY SMILIES ARE BACK! I don't know what happened; the Lord must have healed my computer.:happydance:party:woohoo:cheer

Sherri 07-25-2009 07:57 PM
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And, EB, another FYI..........
I don't appreciate TV preachers who get on there and push their agenda and ask for money. If God can't supply the funds for us to minister, then we don't need to be broadcasting.

It's the same reason we don't do fundraisers for anything. If God can't supply the funds from inside the House, then we don't need to go outside and ask for money from the world. So far He has blessed us and we've been able to fund whatever we've needed to do without selling peanut brittle or chicken dinners. If that's what others do, then that's ok, but it's never been what we've felt like was right for us.


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