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Any request for additional U.S. forces would require touchy discussions with the White House and lawmakers. President Barack Obama approved a surprise addition of 4,000 U.S. trainers earlier in the spring, after his larger announcement of 17,000 combat troops, and administration and military officials had been signaling that further additions were unlikely for now.

Current forces include 62,000 U.S. troops and 39,000 allied troops.

Historic. Mike. wazzup with this?

The additions Obama has already approved will bring the U.S. presence to about 68,000 by the end of the year. That is roughly double the size of the U.S. force when Obama took office.

Take out WMD's?

This is what hypocrits do. They promise one thing and then do the opposie.

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Are these troops for abroad or home?

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We have a military build up. More troops are being sent to Afghanistan.

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KABUL (Reuters) - A U.S. service member was killed as the deadliest month for foreign troops in the Afghanistan war drew to a close, the U.S. military said on Friday, with commanders vowing to continue the fight despite the toll.

The death in southern Afghanistan brought to 40 the number of U.S. troops killed in July, by far the heaviest monthly toll in the 8-year-old war. The worst previous month for U.S. forces was in September 2008, when 26 were killed.

The latest death occurred in a firefight with insurgents in southern Afghanistan on Thursday, the U.S. military said, without giving further details. At least 70 foreign troops have been killed in July.

Britain has suffered its worst battlefield casualties since the 1980s Falklands War, with the 22 troops killed in the month taking its total losses in Afghanistan to 191, 12 more than were killed in the Iraq war.

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Did Obama promise to take troops out of Afghanistan?

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Bring them home

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZvToGgImnc

Obama proposed a plan in January that called for troops to begin withdrawing in May and for the removal of all combat brigades by March 31, 2008


"They have said that they recognize the surge is not working the way it should and it is time for us to have a change of course," Obama said

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Reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan -- The pace of American combat deaths in Afghanistan has quickened anew as roadside bombs killed five U.S. troops in 24 hours in the same western province, the American military said Thursday.

The deaths bring to 11 the number of American troops killed in Afghanistan so far in August, on the heels of what was the worst month for Western and U.S. troop fatalities since the conflict began in 2001. Forty-three American military personnel died in July.


something is fishy

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Coadie once again you don't clearly understand an issue and need some help. President Obama didn't campaign or promise to reduce troop levels in Afghanistan. He made it clear that due to the Bush administration's neglect of the al-qaeda in Afghanistan, troop levels there would have to be increased to keep the Taliban and al-qaeda from retaking Afghanistan.

The desire of the majority of the country and represented by Pres. Obama was for the war in Iraq to be ended. Thus the pull-out date for next year in Iraq.

You're posts are constantly full of inaccuracies and blatant lies so it comes as no surprise, but I figured even you knew the difference between two different countries and theaters of war coadie.

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I most definately did not vote for Obama, but you are correct. He did not campain on leaving Afghanistan, rather leaving Iraq and ascribing Iraq to Bush (i.e. Failure) to where the real war should be, Afghanistan. Both were and are wrong policies. Americans have absolutly no business over there in these foriegn entanglements.
We have no friend(s) in the world worth this much American capital, both financially and reputation/respect. None! There is not one country on Earth that we sould sacrifice our God given freedoms in exchange for any of their existences above our own. None!
Not even that one country we own so much to, England.

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I agree with you Bowas. It's time to let the rest of the world deal with their problems. It's not our responsibility to spread hope and freedom to the world. It makes a great soaring oratory piece, but it's not our military's place.

I do think that Afghanistan was a justified war given that's where the perpetrators of 9/11 were given the protection to train for it. The Taliban rulers of the country were supporting their efforts and al-qaeda's training camps had to be closed.

It's now at a point that if we were to simply pull out, the Taliban could retake the country and reestablish a base of operations for al-qaeda.

The connection with al-qaeda and Iraq, on the other hand, was only in the messed up minds of the Neo-cons of the Bush administration.

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"Bring them home" That means Afghanistan? The video says home and most reasonable people think that would be America.

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Actually no coadie. Most "reasonable" people would have read the title of the video you posted and see that it clearly says "from Iraq". Seems simple to me.

"l'll be a President who ends this war "in Iraq" and finally brings our troops home."

What a perfect example of how you endlessly try to spin every topic with no regard for the truth. Frankly, that's why I don't care to discuss political issues with you on this forum. You purposefully lie about BO's intentions in Afghanistan, but expect everyone to believe your "proof" about BO's citizenship.

Credability is a hard thing to earn back when it's lost coadie.

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Problem is solved. Obama stops letting us know how many dead in Afghanistan according to Huffington
Resident Obama promised transparency and open disclosure. If it doesn't flatter Obama, don't let the news get reported.

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so we see Obama ran a very misleading ad. No wonder he is losing credibility.

Home is here.

I am sure you do not want to discuss a long list of claims he made in the campaign he had no intention of meeting.

It is a paid for commercial.

Are you prepared to share his complete and truthfull intentions in Afghanistan? Are you willing to compare them with what he "promised" in the past?

One of the jokes is his claims or promises have expiration dates.

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Coadie you don't understand the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan how could you possibly understand any of the other campaign slogans or plans BO ran for office on? It's not his fault you can't comprehend the info.

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You are lying Mike. My own company has business in Iraq, Afghanistan and several other middle Eastern states.

We had business in Kuwait after 1990

Stop lying to defend Obama. Democrats will make up lies for others.


Politifact.com
Mike. You don't know what went on. :sorry

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You claimed that President Obama campaigned on drawing troops out of Afghanistan when in fact he did not talk about bringing troops from Afghanistan, but adding troops there. You misrerpesented a documented fact of the campaign coadie.

The sliver of credability you had is continuing to disappear coadie. Just admit you're error and start repairing your credability.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofGNM...layer_embedded

Not by March 2008.

oops he fooled his own Obama drones

His own words are fishy.

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Coadie I challenge you to find me one youtube video or direct quote where Obama promises to draw down troop levels in Afghanistan. The whole country knew he was bringing troops home from Iraq and that date is set. Promise kept.

You can't come up with a single video where he promised to pull troops from Afghanistan. Get a map coade and find the two countries and know they are two seperate wars. No wonder you're so confused on issues. :ursofunny

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Mikes pal Barney opposed war spending.

Barney is what the Dems stand for.

Mike. Obama said he would bring troup HOME. What is it about Home you can't understand?

The soldiers know where home is

Afghanistan is a red herring.



Obama lied about bringing them home. Liars change the subject. We call it deflection.

Do you know why obama lied abouut troup withdrawal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE

at the minute mark he says I don't make promises that won't be kept. What a bold lie. He even raised his voice to tell the lie. We are still in Iraq.
Liars defend his lying. Why doesn't Mike show this? Scared of the truth?


Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said last week that defense spending should be cut 25 percent, in part because “we don’t need all these fancy new weapons.”

Even the Gay Dems are on the same page.....save money to fund abortion

Obama lied. soldiers died. We are still in iraq. They didn't come home as promised but now he ramps up at Afghanistan. But the obama drones have all the excuses and defend him.

Mechenbier, who retired from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in 2004, said he was concerned about comments by Democrat U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who suggested last week that military spending could be cut 25 percent. He also expressed concern about comments from vice presidential candidate Joe Biden that the U. S. could not afford the F-22 Raptor.

march 12

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=91286


We can't trust this outfit.

Mike doesn't know that escalating middle east war is not the same as bringing troups home.
Obama lied for himself. Mike doesn't know where Afghanistan is.

Dems said they would end middle east fighting. nad that was just blowing smoke to get the votes of the gullible and uneducated.

It worked. The most gullible still believe him.

The only promise Obama kept was on abortion. At least they can be happy about that.

Christians oppose abortion and don't support pro abort radicals. Now hyppocrits that is a different matter.

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Personally for me I don't have an issue with him not holding to a deadline about pulling out of a war zone before it is stable. I think when a person is not yet President they don't have all the same information to make decisions, and therefore, shouldn't make any promises in regards to military action with timetables.

JMO

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The New York Times has outed President Obama’s backwards strategy of surging troop strength in Afghanistan without a plan.

An August 6, 2009 NYT’s article entitled “White House Struggles to Gauge Afghan Success” begins,

As the American military comes to full strength in the Afghan buildup, the Obama administration is struggling to come up with a long-promised plan to measure whether the war is being won.

It continues,

Those ‘metrics’ of success, demanded by Congress and eagerly awaited by the military, are seen as crucial if the president is to convince Capitol Hill and the country that his revamped strategy is working. Without concrete signs of progress, Mr. Obama may lack the political stock — especially among Democrats and his liberal base — to make the case for continuing the military effort or enlarging the American presence.

That problem will become particularly acute if American commanders in Afghanistan seek even more troops for a mission that many of Mr. Obama’s most ardent supporters say remains ill defined and open-ended.”

Senator Carl Levin, who recently called for a doubling of troops in Afghanistan, said,

No plan? surge for surge's sake?

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It's amazing how much more enjoyable this political forum is when I see:

coadie

This message is hidden because coadie is on your ignore list.

Aww, refreshing.

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Mike it's way more fun to shoot him down. Don't y'all bird hunt up there? I nailed a loon in the "birther" thread the other day. He has not been back for some reason. I took a photo then I ate it.

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:beatdeadhorse

So why are we in Afghanistan? You seem to have such a love fest for obama and know his heart and his ways.

Except for theor opium and poverty, what do they have? Why don't those musims get their act together? Is it selling cocaine to finance war?

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(laughing) I voted for McCain and have no love for your obamanation. If you didn't want to be fighting opium dealers in Afghanistan then Ronnie Reagan should not have sold them all that hardware and provided all that training. In case you haven't noticed we also voted with our feet and have no more business with the thieves in washington. We do have free healthcare and a real, fully funded retirement system with real money in it. As opposed to the stack of IOU's in yours. Speaking of poverty (laughing again) Thank you for asking.

To politely answer your question - I don't know. Last I saw we were pounding on raggedy villagers along with women and children and accidentally smart-bombing weddings. It appears that Muslim weddings are a threat to national security as this is not the first time this has happened. I nominate you to travel over for a fact-finding mission and get back with us on this. Please run your mouth as much as possible in a loud and annoying manner like you do here. While you are over there. Please.

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*sigh* Coadie, his consistent position has been that military action in Afghanistan is a direct response to those who attacked us on 9/11 and wish to continue to attack us. That was their base of operations and the region where the most threatening attacks on US soil is being birthed. They have said many times that taking our eyes off of Afghanistan and focusing on Iraq (who didn't attack us or play a significant role that we know of) has allowed those who pledge to attack us again to flourish in Afghanistan/Pakistan and have greater numbers and resources than ever.

I have never once heard Obama say we need to get out of Afghanistan. He actually argued the opposite...that Al-Quaeda's activities in Afghanistan make them the much larger threat to Americans and that by diverting so much from there to Iraq we have left ourselves more vulnerable.

His position has always been that we need to prioritize our operations in Afghanistan. That being said, however, they have to have a plan of action. I am confident that the career military commanders that we have in place regardless of who the President is, are perfectly capable of developing a strategy that will disrupt what Al-Quaeda has been able to do in the last few years.

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Absolutely 100% correct. I've got him on ignore Tstew so you can try and educate him on the difference in Iraq and Afghanistan and the different military operations in the two.

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WASHINGTON, D.C., July 17, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The United States Senate approved an amendment yesterday adding "hate crimes" legislation to the annual Defense Authorization bill, which would add "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" to the list of federally-protected classes.

The Senate voted 63 - 28 to attach S.909, the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act (MSHCPA), to the $680 billion defense bill meant to support US troops fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Senate Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada favored attaching the hotly-debated bill as an amendment, instead of putting it forward as a stand-alone bill, in hopes of easing its passage, but his tactic drew outcry from Senate Republicans.

Folks don't forget they added the pedophile protection to this. So spending on the military and protecting the long list of paraphiliacs is going to protect america.

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Coadie your record skipped to another subject mano...

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