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Light 08-02-2009 04:01 PM

"Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
:crazy Lunatic Fringe

The term was coined by Theodore Roosevelt.

:wacko :crazywalls

Name for the extreme radical members of a group, especially in politics: In this case the "Birthers and followers" :crazy in the Republican Party as being on the lunatic fringe. :notme

I wonder what Teddie would say if he were alive to see how far his party
has regressed?

coadie 08-02-2009 04:56 PM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 781721)
:crazy Lunatic Fringe

The term was coined by Theodore Roosevelt.

:wacko :crazywalls

Name for the extreme radical members of a group, especially in politics: In this case the "Birthers and followers" :crazy in the Republican Party as being on the lunatic fringe. :notme

I wonder what Teddie would say if he were alive to see how far his party
has regressed?

These "berthers are splendid saints. They oppose abortion from intellectual reasons also

You can't un-ring a bell.


Most of he lights of the world are on an agenda to castigate folks for the simple deed of being truthfull, honest and therefore skeptical.
3 questions for light
1 Michelle Obama said:My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks (citizenship not patriotism. wWhy did Michelle raise the issue

2
According to factcheck, quote, "When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948.
Factcheck continues: "That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children.

3 Same as above. We have Kenyan citizenship

Bud light, enlighten how and when Obama renounced these 3 foreign citizenships. Birthers want truth.

Can you cover a rational discussion on these 3 issues?

coadie 08-02-2009 05:16 PM

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You need another beer bud light. Beer stroika talks.

We do have more groups now
Blue dog democrats
Lunie left
Leftist fringe
Moderate right
conservative right
Values voters
Fundamentalists
Stonewall democrats (gay)

Twisp 08-02-2009 05:23 PM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 781721)
:crazy Lunatic Fringe

The term was coined by Theodore Roosevelt.

:wacko :crazywalls

Name for the extreme radical members of a group, especially in politics: In this case the "Birthers and followers" :crazy in the Republican Party as being on the lunatic fringe. :notme

I wonder what Teddie would say if he were alive to see how far his party
has regressed?

I'd say he would be like the rest of us, look at them with bemusement and then get back to real issues. There are many critical issues to focus on besides making up ones.

All the birthers are doing are pushing people away from the republican party. They will assist in giving President Obama another term.

Maybe the birthers are really democrats? lol

Twisp 08-02-2009 05:31 PM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 781725)
These "berthers are splendid saints. They oppose abortion from intellectual reasons also

You can't un-ring a bell.


Most of he lights of the world are on an agenda to castigate folks for the simple deed of being truthfull, honest and therefore skeptical.
3 questions for light
1 Michelle Obama said:My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks (citizenship not patriotism. wWhy did Michelle raise the issue

2
According to factcheck, quote, "When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948.
Factcheck continues: "That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children.

3 Same as above. We have Kenyan citizenship


Bud light, enlighten how and when Obama renounced these 3 foreign citizenships. Birthers want truth.

Can you cover a rational discussion on these 3 issues?

You answered that question for us, coadie. Did you forget?

You showed us all how his Kenyan citizenship expired on his 21st birthday automatically. You were very clear in this point and we all understood you. You seem too young to be this forgetful already, lol.

As for Michelle Obama saying that, you would have to ask her why she said that.

coadie 08-02-2009 05:34 PM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
This topic brings out all the mental midgets from the left.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/

Here is a picture from Mombasa of the cirth certificate. Of course it is typed. The fake forged one from Obama was word processor original. word processors were invented long after the 60's.

Twips, prove the inauthenticity of this Kenyan document.

The birther movement was all from the democrats. Hilliary supporters.

The leftist fringe are anti birth in other words pro abortion. Saves on creating biirth documents.

On a different note the underlying issue is really about dis honesty, deceipt and people rooting for the biggest role player evah.

Twisp 08-02-2009 05:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 781742)
This topic brings out all the mental midgets from the left.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/

Here is a picture from Mombasa of the cirth certificate. Of course it is typed. The fake forged one from Obama was word processor original. word processors were invented long after the 60's.

Twips, prove the inauthenticity of this Kenyan document.

The birther movement was all from the democrats. Hilliary supporters.

The leftist fringe are anti birth in other words pro abortion. Saves on creating biirth documents.

On a different note the underlying issue is really about dis honesty, deceipt and people rooting for the biggest role player evah.

I don't have to. That is a blog. From the blog writer that YOU just posted:


Both of these “Birth Certificates” could be Real
I’ve repeatedly said that I believe Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawaii, as the Internet-image of his Certification of Live Birth indicates.


LOL, the writer of the link you posted does not even believe it.

It is not his birth certificate because it has not been verified by trusted, external sources. There, that was easy.

When given a choice to believe a blog or the State of Hawaii, I'll believe the state of Hawaii.

Besides that, I don't have to prove anything. You are accusing him of not being qualified, the burden of proof it on you. Good luck with that.

coadie 08-03-2009 07:16 AM

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This propaganda brought by the BROWN nose Democrats.
Light sure shows the zeal for the PARTY.

Light 08-03-2009 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 781876)
This propaganda brought by the BROWN nose Democrats.
Light sure shows the zeal for the PARTY.

Hey :nutso clean up your filthy language.

coadie 08-03-2009 05:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 781746)
I don't have to. That is a blog. From the blog writer that YOU just posted:


Both of these “Birth Certificates” could be RealI’ve repeatedly said that I believe Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawaii, as the Internet-image of his Certification of Live Birth indicates.


LOL, the writer of the link you posted does not even believe it.

It is not his birth certificate because it has not been verified by trusted, external sources. There, that was easy.

When given a choice to believe a blog or the State of Hawaii, I'll believe the state of Hawaii.
Besides that, I don't have to prove anything. You are accusing him of not being qualified, the burden of proof it on you. Good luck with that.

So when the "state of Hi" on 3 different times made statements and on 3 different times refuted their previous statements, which ones do you believe?

Now you don't know what i am talking about. You are over filled with koolaid.
Can you name the statements they made that demonstrate contradiction? Why not?


Being the loyal Democrat that you are, what is an "unreal" document?
Real is not a legal courthouse term about evidence.
What we are looking for is Genuine, verified, authenticated, complete and certified. "Real"..that is so lame it is a waste of time.
It is cute how democrats fake and act like they are independent in their thinking. But they are so gullible.
Why didn't the 'State" tell us which hospital? Are hospitals not part of "real information"

Remember
Twusp,
Obama and the factcheck-snopes crowd have all switched their name of the hospital of birth within the last month.

In other words they lied about which hospital. What keeps them from lying again?

Remember when you referred to snopes and we exposed the lies??????

Now you all say it was not Queens hospital.
Catching people in a lie is how you impeach a witness. I don't think you understand that concept.

Twisp 08-03-2009 06:17 PM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 782264)
[B]So when the "state of Hi" on 3 different times made statements and on 3 different times refuted their previous statements, which ones do you believe?

Now you don't know what i am talking about. You are over filled with koolaid.
Can you name the statements they made that demonstrate contradiction? Why not?


Being the loyal Democrat that you are, what is an "unreal" document?
Real is not a legal courthouse term about evidence.
What we are looking for is Genuine, verified, authenticated, complete and certified. "Real"..that is so lame it is a waste of time.
It is cute how democrats fake and act like they are independent in their thinking. But they are so gullible.
Why didn't the 'State" tell us which hospital? Are hospitals not part of "real information"

Remember
Twusp,
Obama and the factcheck-snopes crowd have all switched their name of the hospital of birth within the last month.

In other words they[B] lied about which hospital. What keeps them from lying again?

Remember when you referred to snopes and we exposed the lies??????

Now you all say it was not Queens hospital.
Catching people in a lie is how you impeach a witness. I don't think you understand that concept.

You are right. I have an idea of what you are trying to convey, but you are all over the place in your post(s).

Judging from people's responses to your other various posts, not many others know what you are talking about either.

pelathais 08-03-2009 06:36 PM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 781721)
:crazy Lunatic Fringe

The term was coined by Theodore Roosevelt.

:wacko :crazywalls

Name for the extreme radical members of a group, especially in politics: In this case the "Birthers and followers" :crazy in the Republican Party as being on the lunatic fringe. :notme

I wonder what Teddie would say if he were alive to see how far his party
has regressed?

The Republican party isn't even involved in this stuff. They're just sitting back and laughing because the big O, Axelrod and Rahmbo can't make it go away.

Kind of like the way you and the Democratic party sat around and said "Oh Yeah!" when the fringe nuts went on about how Bush "crashed the planes into the WTC on 9/11."

coadie 08-03-2009 06:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 782279)
The Republican party isn't even involved in this stuff. They're just sitting back and laughing because the big O, Axelrod and Rahmbo can't make it go away.

Kind of like the way you and the Democratic party sat around and said "Oh Yeah!" when the fringe nuts went on about how Bush "crashed the planes into the WTC on 9/11."

The most active was Hillary. Hillary regrets this deal because she was convinced Obama was a darkhorse candidate and she had the lead. It looks like Rahmbo is stumped.

Rahmbo can't push obama to let people peek because obama is exposed to more perjury.

Twisp 08-03-2009 07:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 782279)
The Republican party isn't even involved in this stuff. They're just sitting back and laughing because the big O, Axelrod and Rahmbo can't make it go away.

Kind of like the way you and the Democratic party sat around and said "Oh Yeah!" when the fringe nuts went on about how Bush "crashed the planes into the WTC on 9/11."

I think that both republicans and democrats can come together and agree with the lunacy on this issue.

The only reason it has not gone away is because the birthers don't really want facts. They hate the guy and are going to continue this no matter what else is said. That is the thing about conspiracies. Facts won't make them go away. People that go this far are going to believe what they want to believe not matter what the available evidence points to.

In regards to the 9/11 conspiracy, there were and are crazies on both sides that believe that. It is definitely not just a liberal conspiracy.

SOUNWORTHY 08-03-2009 08:57 PM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
[QUOTE=Twisp;782271]You are right. I have an idea of what you are trying to convey, but you are all over the place in your post(s).

Judging from people's responses to your other various posts, not many others know what you are talking about either.[/QUOTE]


I think he is coming in loud and clear.

coadie 08-03-2009 09:34 PM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 782298)
I think that both republicans and democrats can come together and agree with the lunacy on this issue.

The only reason it has not gone away is because the birthers don't really want facts. They hate the guy and are going to continue this no matter what else is said. That is the thing about conspiracies. Facts won't make them go away. People that go this far are going to believe what they want to believe not matter what the available evidence points to.

In regards to the 9/11 conspiracy, there were and are crazies on both sides that believe that. It is definitely not just a liberal conspiracy.

We ask for facts,

Real simple. why did Obama say he was born at Queens and the change the hospital he was born at 6 months later?

Facts. Real simple
There is no "evidence"


In sizing up crimninals in interviews for deception, they do the same thing. They try to muddle facts, create red herrings and strawmen

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=103898

Obama pays top dollar for counterfeit product and for the best lawyer to keep him out of court.

Rather have truth than compromise facts and truth.

Obama Passport peeker is dead. His mom is entitled to solving the homicide.
Twisp want's it covered. I am sure obama wants it covered.

Twisp 08-03-2009 09:50 PM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 782398)
We ask for facts,

Real simple. why did Obama say he was born at Queens and the change the hospital he was born at 6 months later?

Facts. Real simple
There is no "evidence"


In sizing up crimninals in interviews for deception, they do the same thing. They try to muddle facts, create red herrings and strawmen

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=103898

Obama pays top dollar for counterfeit product and for the best lawyer to keep him out of court.

Rather have truth than compromise facts and truth.

Obama Passport peeker is dead. His mom is entitled to solving the homicide.
Twisp want's it covered. I am sure obama wants it covered.

As others on this site has said, it is not unusual to know know exactly where you were born. I told people for several years I was born in a certain city, when in fact I was born in the county and not the city itself.

You ask for facts but when they are prevented, you ignore them. If you can't accept the State of Hawaii's word for it, or his Hawaiian birth certificate, you aren't going to accept anything.

Really, your issue isn't with me. You need to contact the State of Hawaii and bring your evidence to them. Surely they will issue a retraction based on your intense and thorough research of internet blogs.

Ferd 08-04-2009 07:30 AM

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When I think of lunitic fringe, I think of mainstream democrats like Nancy Peloze (I hope I spelled her name wrong) and Dingy Harry Reed.... and Barny Frank and the rest of the leadership of that party.


Americans arent communists but the lunitic frenge of the left have hijacked their party.

makes me sick at my stomach.

Esther 08-04-2009 07:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 782530)
When I think of lunitic fringe, I think of mainstream democrats like Nancy Peloze (I hope I spelled her name wrong) and Dingy Harry Reed.... and Barny Frank and the rest of the leadership of that party.


Americans arent communists but the lunitic frenge of the left have hijacked their party.

makes me sick at my stomach.

You did. :thumbsup:ursofunny

Ferd 08-04-2009 07:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 782543)
You did. :thumbsup:ursofunny

good. consider that a sign of utter contempt

Light 08-04-2009 10:28 AM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 782279)
The Republican party isn't even involved in this stuff. They're just sitting back and laughing because the big O, Axelrod and Rahmbo can't make it go away.

Kind of like the way you and the Democratic party sat around and said "Oh Yeah!" when the fringe nuts went on about how Bush "crashed the planes into the WTC on 9/11."

For your information the birthers are Republican Senators and Congressmen and women.

coadie 08-04-2009 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 782530)
When I think of lunitic fringe, I think of mainstream democrats like Nancy Peloze (I hope I spelled her name wrong) and Dingy Harry Reed.... and Barny Frank and the rest of the leadership of that party.


Americans arent communists but the lunitic frenge of the left have hijacked their party.

makes me sick at my stomach.

I wonder what the democrats were thinking vesting their leadership in the looniest of the looonaticks???

Can one of The Democrats explain this?
Today
Rahm is blowing a gasket. More vulgar outbursts from Geithner.

Light 08-04-2009 09:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 782740)
I wonder what the democrats were thinking vesting their leadership in the looniest of the looonaticks???

Can one of The Democrats explain this?
Today
Rahm is blowing a gasket. More vulgar outbursts from Geithner.

You claim to be a Christian yet you use vulgar sayings.

SOUNWORTHY 08-05-2009 08:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 783220)
You claim to be a Christian yet you use vulgar sayings.



?
Maybe I missed something. What vulgar sayings. There are those who call themselves Christians yet vote for those who approve of baby slaying. Now that's what I call straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.

Twisp 08-05-2009 09:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 783275)


?
Maybe I missed something. What vulgar sayings. There are those who call themselves Christians yet vote for those who approve of baby slaying. Now that's what I call straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.

Both candidates supported killing people in the last election, including the possibility of it, just in different ways. Babies or grown adults, hard to pick a candidate that doesn't support it.

coadie 08-05-2009 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 783275)


?
Maybe I missed something. What vulgar sayings. There are those who call themselves Christians yet vote for those who approve of baby slaying. Now that's what I call straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.

Now Obama is sending drones to blow up houses. Women and children. In war, it may cost a soldiers life, but by checking a house for the enemy causes less destruction of innocents.

Democrats justify abortion of innocent babies by applying Marxist situational ethics. Some of them go to church and even think they can fool God.

coadie 08-05-2009 11:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 782734)
For your information the birthers are Republican Senators and Congressmen and women.

That leaves out all the Republican, conservative males that are not in Congress. Notice it leaves out the blue dog dems, Hillary supporters.

Bud light seems a little light on data and facts.

coadie 08-06-2009 07:36 AM

Re: "Birthers" the Lunatic Fringe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 782734)
For your information the birthers are Republican Senators and Congressmen and women.

Are you the sole spokes person for the tinfoil hats party?

Are Hillary supporters now Republican?

Light 08-06-2009 08:26 AM

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[QUOTE=SOUNWORTHY;782369]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 782271)
You are right. I have an idea of what you are trying to convey, but you are all over the place in your post(s).

Judging from people's responses to your other various posts, not many others know what you are talking about either.[/QUOTE]


I think he is coming in loud and clear.

only a fellow lunatic understands a lunatic.:heart

Light 08-06-2009 08:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 783386)
That leaves out all the Republican, conservative males that are not in Congress. Notice it leaves out the blue dog dems, Hillary supporters.

Bud light seems a little light on data and facts.

For a man that claims to be so educated it seem you don't even know what a "BIRTHER" is. You are a birther :nutso

Baron1710 08-06-2009 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 783923)
For a man that claims to be so educated it seem you don't even know what a "BIRTHER" is. You are a birther :nutso

It was a good friend of the Clintons that brought one of the complaints before the Federal Court in Pennsylvania. I think that is his point that it isn't just Republicans. So does that make Clinton a "birther"?

Light 08-06-2009 08:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 783925)
It was a good friend of the Clintons that brought one of the complaints before the Federal Court in Pennsylvania. I think that is his point that it isn't just Republicans. So does that make Clinton a "birther"?

Yes that is true but there is a big differance between that person and AFF's resident :nutso
That person had enough gumption to stop when proven wrong. :nutso doesn't.

coadie 08-06-2009 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 783923)
For a man that claims to be so educated it seem you don't even know what a "BIRTHER" is. You are a birther :nutso

Rule 5 states: ‘Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.’ There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.”

In Saul Alinsky's book, Rules for Radicals, he tells commies to do what you do.

Your posts are mostly ridicule. I can see thru your antics and ridicule..

coadie 08-06-2009 10:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 783925)
It was a good friend of the Clintons that brought one of the complaints before the Federal Court in Pennsylvania. I think that is his point that it isn't just Republicans. So does that make Clinton a "birther"?

The Obama cult heaps scorn and ridicule on every one that did not drink the Obama Koolaid.

Obama ridiculed Joe the Plumber
His team ridiculed Sarah Palin relentously

Barney Frank ridiculed relentously.

Light 08-06-2009 11:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 784067)
Rule 5 states: ‘Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.’ There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.”

In Saul Alinsky's book, Rules for Radicals, he tells commies to do what you do.

Your posts are mostly ridicule. I can see thru your antics and ridicule..

The reason for the ridicule is, your post are the ranting of a :nutso

Walks_in_islam 08-09-2009 11:24 AM

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Are you sure you don't mean loon-atic? Perhaps you misspelled?

Light 08-09-2009 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 785438)
Are you sure you don't mean loon-atic? Perhaps you misspelled?

I didn't want to insult the beautiful loons.

Walks_in_islam 08-09-2009 12:32 PM

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They were more beautiful when they were quiet...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 785450)
I didn't want to insult the beautiful loons.



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