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Hello,

My name is Steve Goatley, I have been a minister that lives in Paducah, Ky for 15 yrs now. I wonder if there is anybody knows what I am talking about when I say "are you soldout to God". The bible states that we must abstain fleshly desires which war against the soul. Being sold out to God comes with a price; however, the reward is eternal life.

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Originally Posted by boottop34 (Post 788916)

Welcome, Steve!

I bet we all have our own ideas of what that means. Why don't you share your views? "Abstain fleshly desires"? How far do you take that?

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Originally Posted by boottop34 (Post 788916)

Uh oh Boots, your about to get slammed about what exactly it means to be "sold out"! It might just mean something different to you then to others!:thumbsup

If you mean to walk in holiness and seperation, I am with you on that!

M.

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Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 788918)

Uh oh Boots, your about to get slammed about what exactly it means to be "sold out"! It might just mean something different to you then to others!:thumbsup

If you mean to walk in holiness and seperation, I am with you on that!

M.

And what does that mean, to you?

:popcorn2

Welcome dear brother in Christ,yes certainly being submitted to the Lordship of Christ comes with a price-tag,while the Christian walk and experience is a walk of faith and grace being a disciple of Christ,does not come without sacrifice,and self denial.

As you can see from my username, I'm all for it. :thumbsup

The only price I am interested in is the Price He paid for me..that is why I am sold out for Jesus

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 788917)

Welcome, Steve!

I bet we all have our own ideas of what that means. Why don't you share your views? "Abstain fleshly desires"? How far do you take that?

The fleshly desires that war against the soul which would probably be the works of the flesh.

Oh, and WELCOME!!!

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 789112)

The fleshly desires that war against the soul which would probably be the works of the flesh.

Namely? E.g., I'm feeling pretty hungry right now. My flesh desires a sausage wrap or two. ;)

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 789114)

Namely? E.g., I'm feeling pretty hungry right now. My flesh desires a sausage wrap or two. ;)

Eating to satisfy hunger and eating to excess (gluttony) are not the same

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Question: "Is gluttony a sin? What does the Bible say about overeating?"

Answer: Gluttony seems to be a sin that Christians like to ignore. We are often quick to label smoking and drinking as sins, but for some reason gluttony is accepted or at least tolerated. Many of the arguments used against smoking and drinking, such as health and addiction, apply equally to overeating. Many believers would not even consider having a glass of wine or smoking a cigarette but have no qualms about gorging themselves at the dinner table. This should not be!

Proverbs 23:20-21 warns us, “Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags.” Proverbs 28:7 declares, “He who keeps the law is a discerning son, but a companion of gluttons disgraces his father.” Proverbs 23:2 proclaims, “Put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony.”

Physical appetites are an analogy of our ability to control ourselves. If we are unable to control our eating habits, we are probably also unable to control other habits, such as those of the mind (lust, covetousness, anger) and unable to keep our mouths from gossip or strife. We are not to let our appetites control us, but we are to have control over our appetites. (See Deuteronomy 21:20, Proverbs 23:2, 2 Peter 1:5-7, 2 Timothy 3:1-9, and 2 Corinthians 10:5.) The ability to say “no” to anything in excess—self-control—is one of the fruits of the Spirit common to all believers (Galatians 5:22).

God has blessed us by filling the earth with foods that are delicious, nutritious, and pleasurable. We should honor God's creation by enjoying these foods and by eating them in appropriate quantities. God calls us to control our appetites, rather than allowing them to control us.

http://www.gotquestions.org/gluttony-sin.html

http://www.deadlysins.com/sins/gluttony.html

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 789114)

Namely? E.g., I'm feeling pretty hungry right now. My flesh desires a sausage wrap or two. ;)

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 789118)

Eating to satisfy hunger and eating to excess (gluttony) are not the same

Then I probably should have stopped at three. :thumbsup

(Actually, we had pizza last night. And I shoulda stopped at three slices! :lol)

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 789114)

Namely? E.g., I'm feeling pretty hungry right now. My flesh desires a sausage wrap or two. ;)

That would be sin, or at least it should be. Eat a carrot.

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 789118)

Eating to satisfy hunger and eating to excess (gluttony) are not the same

http://www.gotquestions.org/gluttony-sin.html

http://www.deadlysins.com/sins/gluttony.html

What about the border line diabetic who has gone undiagnosed for years. They crave food and are always thirsty. Their body itself is sending signals to eat and drink more and more. It's not a "fleshly lust" but a chemical/sugar imbalance.

Are they in sin because they are sick and don't know it?

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 789307)

Lost as two boys kissing! :thumbsup

:ursofunny

[QUOTE=jaamez;789452]Lost as two boys kissing! :thumbsup

So boys who desire to kiss each other should deny their fleshly desire or be "lost"?

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Originally Posted by boottop34 (Post 788916)

Hello,

My name is Steve Goatley, I have been a minister that lives in Paducah, Ky for 15 yrs now. I wonder if there is anybody knows what I am talking about when I say "are you soldout to God". The bible states that we must abstain fleshly desires which war against the soul. Being sold out to God comes with a price; however, the reward is eternal life.

so you are gonna earn your salavation?? Good luck with that one.

Welcome to the forum :smack

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Originally Posted by babasheep (Post 789764)

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Originally Posted by jaamez (Post 789452)

Lost as two boys kissing! :thumbsup

So boys who desire to kiss each other should deny their fleshly desire or be "lost"?

Seriously? The two boys must ultimately be regenerated / born again and allow the Holy Spirit to work through them to produce the fruit of the Spirit and empower them to walk uprightly and abstain from worldly lusts.

But, the comment was an "Epley-ism" and was meant to be TIC.
:cowbell