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KWSS1976 08-20-2009 11:34 AM

Why Exercise ?
 
Can anyone answer this for me...LOL

Why exercise if you are going to smoke cigerrettes that just does not click in my head right can someone help me out...

Ferd 08-20-2009 11:49 AM

Re: Why Exercise ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 791184)
Can anyone answer this for me...LOL

Why exercise if you are going to smoke cigerrettes that just does not click in my head right can someone help me out...

forget the qualifer! the question "Why exercise" stands by itself! LOL!

Actually I read a TIME article the other day that posits the idea that exercise is actually counter productive to weight loss!

No kidding at all.

They suggest that exercise leads to increased caloric intake that acutally hinders weightloss and can actually lead to weight gain.

the TIME article also points to something I read years ago, that there is little statistical difference in life expectancy between those who work out extremely hard and those who walk moderately 4 times per week.

TIME suggest that weight loss is a function of caloric intake. And while working out/exercise is very good for over all health, the way we generally work out (1 hour of very intense work) does not really meet the kind of activity that is optimum for a human's health.

4 or 6 short workouts per da (4 to 10 minute walks) is actually more benificial and will not lead to the body demanding additional calories.


seriously...

*AQuietPlace* 08-20-2009 11:50 AM

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I don't smoke cigarettes.

*AQuietPlace* 08-20-2009 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 791192)
forget the qualifer! the question "Why exercise" stands by itself! LOL!

Actually I read a TIME article the other day that posits the idea that exercise is actually counter productive to weight loss!

No kidding at all.

They suggest that exercise leads to increased caloric intake that acutally hinders weightloss and can actually lead to weight gain.

the TIME article also points to something I read years ago, that there is little statistical difference in life expectancy between those who work out extremely hard and those who walk moderately 4 times per week.

TIME suggest that weight loss is a function of caloric intake. And while working out/exercise is very good for over all health, the way we generally work out (1 hour of very intense work) does not really meet the kind of activity that is optimum for a human's health.

4 or 6 short workouts per da (4 to 10 minute walks) is actually more benificial and will not lead to the body demanding additional calories.


seriously...

It's funny that you mention that... I re-joined Curves a few weeks ago, and ever since then I have been STARVING. I told my husband the other night that I don't know what is wrong with me, but I am hungry all the time lately. He said - it's probably because you've been exercising more.

I'm starting to feel like a dog chasing my tail. Have to exercise more to burn the extra calories, which makes me hungrier, which means I eat more, which means I need to exercise more to burn *those * calories....... ;)

KWSS1976 08-20-2009 12:00 PM

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Well see thats the thing..LOL I go by peoples desk I know they exercise but have a pack of smokes sitting out on there desk..LOL I just don't get it...

*AQuietPlace* 08-20-2009 12:07 PM

Re: Why Exercise ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 791204)
Well see thats the thing..LOL I go by peoples desk I know they exercise but have a pack of smokes sitting out on there desk..LOL I just don't get it...

Doesn't make much sense.

Timmy 08-20-2009 12:13 PM

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Well, yeah, but think of it this way: exercise is good (in moderation), not smoking is good. Best to do both, but doing just one is better than nothing. Right?

TheLegalist 08-20-2009 12:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 791197)
It's funny that you mention that... I re-joined Curves a few weeks ago, and ever since then I have been STARVING. I told my husband the other night that I don't know what is wrong with me, but I am hungry all the time lately. He said - it's probably because you've been exercising more.

I'm starting to feel like a dog chasing my tail. Have to exercise more to burn the extra calories, which makes me hungrier, which means I eat more, which means I need to exercise more to burn *those * calories....... ;)

you need to reset your body and how it thinks.... you need nutrition... not more food necessarly. Big difference! We always tend to eat more after working out all the time simply due to change of fluids and need for natural sugars from fruit and basic enrrgy production along the B Vit's etc... It's not "if you eat more it comes down always to "what" you eat more of. Workout you need more water initially... which in the larger picture you need more of other things to compensate. Again not necessarily food, but a more healthy diet that gives you what you need which might be more or less in the end that you consume.

coadie 08-20-2009 12:18 PM

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Exercise with out dietary changes lead to failure

Stress Diet

The following diet is designed to help you cope with the stress that builds up during the holidays.

Breakfast:
1/2 grapefruit
1 slice whole wheat toast
8 oz. skim milk

Lunch:
4 oz. lean broiled chicken breast
1 cup steamed spinach
1 cup herb tea
1 Oreo cookie

Mid-Afternoon Snack:
The rest of Oreos in the package
2 pints Rocky Road ice cream nuts
cherries and whipped cream
1 jar hot fudge sauce

Dinner:
2 loaves garlic bread
4 cans or 1 large pitcher Coke
1 large sausage, mushroom and cheese pizza
3 Snickers bars

Midnight Snack:
Entire frozen Sara Lee cheesecake (eaten directly from freezer


Rules for This Diet

1. If you eat something and no one sees you eat it, it has no calories.

2. If you drink a diet soda with a candy bar, the calories in the candy bar are cancelled out by the diet soda.

3. When you eat with someone else, calories don't count if you do not eat more than they do.

4. Food used for medicinal purposes NEVER counts, such as hot chocolate, brandy, toast and Sara Lee Cheesecake.

5. If you fatten up everyone else around you, then you look thinner.

6. Movie related foods do not have additional calories because they are part of the entertainment package and not part of one's personal fuel. Examples: Milk Duds, buttered popcorn, Junior Mints, Red Hots and Tootsie Rolls.

7. Cookie pieces contain no calories. The process of breaking causes calorie leakage.

8. Things licked off knives and spoons have no calories if you are in the process of preparing something.

9. Foods that have the same color have the same number of calories. Examples are: spinach and pistachio ice cream; mushrooms and mashed potatoes.

10. Chocolate is a universal color and may be substituted for any other food color.

11. Anything consumed while standing has no calories. This due to gravity and the density of the caloric mass.

12. Anything consumed from someone else's plate has no calories since the calories rightfully belong to the other person and will cling to his/her plate. (We ALL know how calories like to cling!)

REMEMBER: STRESSED SPELLED BACKWARDS IS DESSERTS!

Shawn 08-20-2009 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 791192)
forget the qualifer! the question "Why exercise" stands by itself! LOL!

Actually I read a TIME article the other day that posits the idea that exercise is actually counter productive to weight loss!

No kidding at all.

They suggest that exercise leads to increased caloric intake that acutally hinders weightloss and can actually lead to weight gain.

the TIME article also points to something I read years ago, that there is little statistical difference in life expectancy between those who work out extremely hard and those who walk moderately 4 times per week.

TIME suggest that weight loss is a function of caloric intake. And while working out/exercise is very good for over all health, the way we generally work out (1 hour of very intense work) does not really meet the kind of activity that is optimum for a human's health.

4 or 6 short workouts per da (4 to 10 minute walks) is actually more benificial and will not lead to the body demanding additional calories.


seriously...


I read that article. Very true.


Gary Taubes pointed all of it out in his book 'Good Calories, Bad Calories' a few years back. Good read.

Ferd 08-20-2009 01:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 791218)
you need to reset your body and how it thinks.... you need nutrition... not more food necessarly. Big difference! We always tend to eat more after working out all the time simply due to change of fluids and need for natural sugars from fruit and basic enrrgy production along the B Vit's etc... It's not "if you eat more it comes down always to "what" you eat more of. Workout you need more water initially... which in the larger picture you need more of other things to compensate. Again not necessarily food, but a more healthy diet that gives you what you need which might be more or less in the end that you consume.

The article also said they have studied this idea of will power. It leads to one success followed by future failure.


there are certain biological erges related to caloric intake that cannot be short circuted.

the deal is, dont kill yourself working out to lose weight. do moderate exercise throughout the day, cut your calories, make solid choices in what you eat.

rgcraig 08-20-2009 01:56 PM

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Ferd, you just made my day!

Ferd 08-20-2009 01:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn (Post 791221)
I read that article. Very true.


Gary Taubes pointed all of it out in his book 'Good Calories, Bad Calories' a few years back. Good read.

It was a great article.

Ferd 08-20-2009 02:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 791251)
Ferd, you just made my day!

LOL! ive lost 18 pounds since surgery. it led to some research on what I need to do.

I walk my office floor up to 5 times a day. One lap takes about 4 minutes.

another thing you can do is get a pedomiter. you can get a good one for less than 10 dollars. take 10k to 15k steps per day will do more for your health and weight than an hour a day in the gym!

I read a book called "reversing heart desiese" if my memory is right.

that book quoted a study of 10,000 people study that shows the following
sedintary people die at a rate of 50 per 1000 people. people who walk 30 minutes 4 times per week die at a rate of 24 per 1000. people who have a very high rate of exercise (Marathon training) die at a rate of 19 per 1000.

Sedintary people die but just becoming ACTIVE cuts the chance of death in half, but at the same time there is little statistical difference between walking moderately and training for a marathon!

rgcraig 08-20-2009 02:07 PM

Re: Why Exercise ?
 
Very interesting!

My biggest problem is I'm a carboholic!


....and I like to bake!

coadie 08-20-2009 02:16 PM

Re: Why Exercise ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 791253)
LOL! ive lost 18 pounds since surgery. it led to some research on what I need to do.

I walk my office floor up to 5 times a day. One lap takes about 4 minutes.

another thing you can do is get a pedomiter. you can get a good one for less than 10 dollars. take 10k to 15k steps per day will do more for your health and weight than an hour a day in the gym!

I read a book called "reversing heart desiese" if my memory is right.

that book quoted a study of 10,000 people study that shows the following
sedintary people die at a rate of 50 per 1000 people. people who walk 30 minutes 4 times per week die at a rate of 24 per 1000. people who have a very high rate of exercise (Marathon training) die at a rate of 19 per 1000.

Sedintary people die but just becoming ACTIVE cuts the chance of death in half, but at the same time there is little statistical difference between walking moderately and training for a marathon!

I recall a longitudinal study that reflected 1,000 of 1,000 died. I will go with your numbers. I may RUN down to Sonic and order a chilicheeseburger.

(we call them triple bypass burgers)

Praxeas 08-20-2009 04:13 PM

Re: Why Exercise ?
 
I don't know....why do 300lb women in blue denim skirts go to Mc Donalds and buy a BigMac, supersize fries and a large DIET soda? As if that is going to help?


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