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HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 10:56 AM

Need advice about latex paint
 
I'm getting ready to move in the next two weeks. The people who lived in the house I'm moving into painted with latex paint and when they removed things taped to the wall, it peeled the paint off. Yesterday, I peeled most of the paint of the wall, but the edges aren't able to be as easily peeled, yet they are peeling, it's just thinner and more difficult to get a hold of.

In addition, in another room, she 'decorated' her kids room with what appears to be T-shirt paint, and drew words and shapes that need to come off or else they will remain on my walls, and I don't want that.

I tried scraping them off, but it wasn't working out. It's too thick and soft.

I read on a couple websites that sanding these areas should work. Does anyone have experience in this stuff?

Also, I'd like to repaint with semi-gloss after using Kilz throughout the house. How long does it take the Kilz to dry and when would be a safe time period to repaint with semi-gloss paint?

And another thing, I'm wanting to strip the cabinets as there appears to be so many layers of paint, some of the doors won't shut and the drawers are sticking. What should I strip them with, and is there anything I need to do to them (besides sanding) before I stain them? I'm just leaving them as the original wood.

The lady that lived there clearly didn't know what she was doing. There are so many layers of paint on the walls, and she also didn't feel like moving things when she repainted. For instance, in my living room, there is a big yellow rectangle on one wall where she decided to paint tan all around whatever was hanging there. She apparently didn't want to move her TV either, as there is yellow paint where she had the TV.

There is paint on the ceiling because she didn't tape. Also, paint is on the wood floors. The cabinet handles also have paint slopped on them. She didn't seem to care that paint also got on light switch covers.

I used to paint apartments and even a survey office when I was in college, and I did a really good job. I'm no professional, but I'm not sloppy in my work either.

Thankfully, my landlord is paying for it all if I can do it. Since he's allowing me to choose colors, I'm fine with it.

Thanks for the advice.

Ferd 08-25-2009 10:59 AM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
dont drink it.

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 11:02 AM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 792862)
dont drink it.

You learned something from that, didn't you? LOL!

But hey, it doesn't stick to your insides, does it?

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 11:38 AM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 792861)
I'm getting ready to move in the next two weeks. The people who lived in the house I'm moving into painted with latex paint and when they removed things taped to the wall, it peeled the paint off. Yesterday, I peeled most of the paint of the wall, but the edges aren't able to be as easily peeled, yet they are peeling, it's just thinner and more difficult to get a hold of.

In addition, in another room, she 'decorated' her kids room with what appears to be T-shirt paint, and drew words and shapes that need to come off or else they will remain on my walls, and I don't want that.

I tried scraping them off, but it wasn't working out. It's too thick and soft.

I read on a couple websites that sanding these areas should work. Does anyone have experience in this stuff?

Also, I'd like to repaint with semi-gloss after using Kilz throughout the house. How long does it take the Kilz to dry and when would be a safe time period to repaint with semi-gloss paint?

And another thing, I'm wanting to strip the cabinets as there appears to be so many layers of paint, some of the doors won't shut and the drawers are sticking. What should I strip them with, and is there anything I need to do to them (besides sanding) before I stain them? I'm just leaving them as the original wood.

The lady that lived there clearly didn't know what she was doing. There are so many layers of paint on the walls, and she also didn't feel like moving things when she repainted. For instance, in my living room, there is a big yellow rectangle on one wall where she decided to paint tan all around whatever was hanging there. She apparently didn't want to move her TV either, as there is yellow paint where she had the TV.

There is paint on the ceiling because she didn't tape. Also, paint is on the wood floors. The cabinet handles also have paint slopped on them. She didn't seem to care that paint also got on light switch covers.

I used to paint apartments and even a survey office when I was in college, and I did a really good job. I'm no professional, but I'm not sloppy in my work either.

Thankfully, my landlord is paying for it all if I can do it. Since he's allowing me to choose colors, I'm fine with it.

Thanks for the advice.

HO,
All you need is some Kilz, sander, and paint stripper.

This stuff works wonders. You will need gloves, brush and a rubber scraper. A metal scraper will damage your surface. http://www.wmbarr.com/Images/ProductImages/GSX6_2_R.jpg

Please use proper ventilation - windows open! If it is not cool enough, wait until the fall.

The Kilz will dry within an hour, but I usually wait two.

The Semi-gloss will work great and is easier to clean. I would suggest not getting Walmart paint as it is thin and you will have to re-coat, at least, three times.

Paint on wood floors is a huge mess and a pain to fix!!!

On the kitchen cabinets - you can use the Paint stripper above, Kilz or use B-I-N. http://www.zinsser.com/images/binprimer.jpg

Sand your cabinet doors and drawers, lightly, after stripping and then put a coat of primer. I would use a high gloss in the kitchen. I haven't seen a big difference in the high gloss and enamel paint. The enamel takes hourssssss to dry.

Wear gloves and have some ventilation.!! Wear a mask if you think the paint that is peeling is old and may have lead in it.

Good luck!!

pelathais 08-25-2009 11:38 AM

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Kilz is the way to cover up the "decorating" that came before. With regard to the peeling and the ripped off tape markings, nothing short of retexturing will cover that up. Or a really big picture of a kitten hanging on to the end of a rope. People love those kitten pics with their clever sayings.

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 11:40 AM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 792896)
Kilz is the way to cover up the "decorating" that came before. With regard to the peeling and the ripped off tape markings, nothing short of retexturing will cover that up. Or a really big picture of a kitten hanging on to the end of a rope. People love those kitten pics with their clever sayings.

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

I love doing patch work, taping and floating! It's like icing a cake!! :thumbsup

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 11:51 AM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792895)
HO,
All you need is some Kilz, sander, and paint stripper.

This stuff works wonders. You will need gloves, brush and a rubber scraper. A metal scraper will damage your surface. http://www.wmbarr.com/Images/ProductImages/GSX6_2_R.jpg

Please use proper ventilation - windows open! If it is not cool enough, wait until the fall.

The Kilz will dry within an hour, but I usually wait two.

The Semi-gloss will work great and is easier to clean. I would suggest not getting Walmart paint as it is thin and you will have to re-coat, at least, three times.

Paint on wood floors is a huge mess and a pain to fix!!!

On the kitchen cabinets - you can use the Paint stripper above, Kilz or use B-I-N. http://www.zinsser.com/images/binprimer.jpg

Sand your cabinet doors and drawers, lightly, after stripping and then put a coat of primer. I would use a high gloss in the kitchen. I haven't seen a big difference in the high gloss and enamel paint. The enamel takes hourssssss to dry.

Wear gloves and have some ventilation.!! Wear a mask if you think the paint that is peeling is old and may have lead in it.

Good luck!!

I was going to get the Kilz colors, guaranteed to cover in one coat, however, I'm using the Kilz regular as primer since there are dark and odd colors on the walls.

Also, for the cabinets, I'm not repainting, but staining them after stripping them. I think it will look better than painting them, and there's no way they can take another coat as they are. They are sticky and some doors won't even close because there's no room!

I have an electric hand sander, but will that work on getting the rest of the latex off that's peeling but too thin to pull off the wall?

Sinatra 08-25-2009 11:51 AM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Have you looked at www.diynetwork.com ?

Lots of helpful info. for do it yourselfer's (ok, not sure that last is a word)


http://www.diynetwork.com/painting/p...ics/index.html Link for how to use a paint stripper.


Sinatra

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 11:52 AM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Also, will sanding the raised decorations work? She decorated by writing words and drawing shapes, like hearts and rainbows, in paint. Scraping them off isn't working.

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 11:53 AM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinatra (Post 792910)
Have you looked at www.diynetwork.com ?

Lots of helpful info. for do it yourselfer's (ok, not sure that last is a word)


http://www.diynetwork.com/painting/p...ics/index.html Link for how to use a paint stripper.


Sinatra

Thanks. I'll look at that.

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 12:08 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 792908)
I was going to get the Kilz colors, guaranteed to cover in one coat, however, I'm using the Kilz regular as primer since there are dark and odd colors on the walls.

Also, for the cabinets, I'm not repainting, but staining them after stripping them. I think it will look better than painting them, and there's no way they can take another coat as they are. They are sticky and some doors won't even close because there's no room!

I have an electric hand sander, but will that work on getting the rest of the latex off that's peeling but too thin to pull off the wall?

You'd have to do a perfect stripping job on the cabinets in order to stain them afterward. I would also use mineral spirits to clean off any residue after stripping and sanding.

I would also knock off the loose/peeling paint with a wire brush and then sand. Wire brushes are great.

You can't continue sanding sheetrock, if that's what you have. It will ruin it.

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 12:10 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 792912)
Also, will sanding the raised decorations work? She decorated by writing words and drawing shapes, like hearts and rainbows, in paint. Scraping them off isn't working.

I don't know what you mean by raised work. If she painted it, how is it raised? Did she use a stencil method and plaster or something?

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 12:11 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792926)
You'd have to do a perfect stripping job on the cabinets in order to stain them afterward. I would also use mineral spirits to clean off any residue after stripping and sanding.

I would also knock off the loose/peeling paint with a wire brush and then sand. Wire brushes are great.

You can't continue sanding sheetrock, if that's what you have. It will ruin it.

It's not sheet rock. I peeled down to a layer of primer that was underneath the latex paint.

But how do I remove her 'artwork'?

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 12:13 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792929)
I don't know what you mean by raised work. If she painted it, how is it raised? Did she use a stencil method and plaster or something?

No, she took what appears to be T-shirt paint and drew on the walls, writing in cursive and drawing hearts, rainbows, stick people.....stuff like that. It looks like someone who wrote on a cake.

nahkoe 08-25-2009 12:13 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792929)
I don't know what you mean by raised work. If she painted it, how is it raised? Did she use a stencil method and plaster or something?

She said it's like fabric paint. The puffy stuff.

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 12:14 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 792931)
No, she took what appears to be T-shirt paint and drew on the walls, writing in cursive and drawing hearts, rainbows, stick people.....stuff like that. It looks like someone who wrote on a cake.

Is that on top of sheetrock?

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 12:15 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 792933)
She said it's like fabric paint. The puffy stuff.

I tried just scraping it, but it's rubbery and soft. When I tried forcing it, it peeled several layers off, but that produces another problem in doing it that way.

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 12:15 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792934)
Is that on top of sheetrock?

No, it's on top of several layers of different kinds of paint she used in the ten years she lived there.

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 792936)
No, it's on top of several layers of different kinds of paint she used in the ten years she lived there.

Are the walls sheetrock, or paneling or beadboard or......?

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792937)
Are the walls sheetrock, or paneling or beadboard or......?

Sheet rock.

Ferd 08-25-2009 12:20 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
I spent 4 years in the navy.

the navy theroy is
1. if it works paint it.
2. if it is broke paint it twice.
3. if it doesnt move paint it.
4. if it does move paint it twice.
5. when the paint dries, chip the paint and start back at 1.

Ive painted everything I intend to paint.

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 792938)
Sheet rock.

Well, that's not good. Don't scrape it until you've applied some type of stripper. I would suggest using Citristrip.

http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...5361964reg.jpg

It smells nice, you can use it indoors and it works great. Wear gloves, put a thin coat on the raised junk (lol) - don't slop it on and let it drip. Remove it a little at a time. I think it would work. The Stripper I recommended in my earlier post is very messy, runny and STINKS. The CitriStrip is thicker. Walmart used to carry this. You may need to run by Home Depot, Lowe's or Ace Hardware.

P.S. - Protect the floors - it will strip everything it touches!

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 792941)
I spent 4 years in the navy.

the navy theroy is
1. if it works paint it.
2. if it is broke paint it twice.
3. if it doesnt move paint it.
4. if it does move paint it twice.
5. when the paint dries, chip the paint and start back at 1.

Ive painted everything I intend to paint.

:ursofunny :ursofunny

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 12:37 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792944)
Well, that's not good. Don't scrape it until you've applied some type of stripper. I would suggest using Citristrip.

http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...5361964reg.jpg

It smells nice, you can use it indoors and it works great. Wear gloves, put a thin coat on the raised junk (lol) - don't slop it on and let it drip. Remove it a little at a time. I think it would work. The Stripper I recommended in my earlier post is very messy, runny and STINKS. The CitriStrip is thicker. Walmart used to carry this. You may need to run by Home Depot, Lowe's or Ace Hardware.

P.S. - Protect the floors - it will strip everything it touches!

Thanks!

Oh, and thanks to Ferd too! LOL!

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 12:38 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Pressing, about the stripper (ok, that sounds weird...), is there a waiting period until I can repaint? Also, does it remove a little at a time and I can reapply as necessary?

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 12:44 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 792957)
Pressing, about the stripper (ok, that sounds weird...), is there a waiting period until I can repaint? Also, does it remove a little at a time and I can reapply as necessary?

No, there isn't a waiting period. Yes, it will remove a little at a time. It might get the top surface off allowing you to scrape the rest. You will have to see. Test a spot and see what happens. You need to be careful not to get your sheetrock really wet. You will gouge the surface. That's why I think it would be good to put a thin layer on at a time. Lay some plastic on the floor. Not newspaper, obviously. Don't use a foam brush - it will melt. lol Use gloves, did I say to use gloves? :D

I would come and help you if I lived close by and if you paid me. :D J/K on the payment!!! :toofunny

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 792953)
Thanks!

Oh, and thanks to Ferd too! LOL!

Ferd is always a blessing! :thumbsup :ursofunny

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792963)
No, there isn't a waiting period. Yes, it will remove a little at a time. It might get the top surface off allowing you to scrape the rest. You will have to see. Test a spot and see what happens. You need to be careful not to get your sheetrock really wet. You will gouge the surface. That's why I think it would be good to put a thin layer on at a time. Lay some plastic on the floor. Not newspaper, obviously. Don't use a foam brush - it will melt. lol Use gloves, did I say to use gloves? :D

I would come and help you if I lived close by and if you paid me. :D J/K on the payment!!! :toofunny

Cool. I'll let you know how it goes.

I'm just not sure why someone would do that to a house they didn't own. The owners had no idea she'd done that. Ugh!

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 12:54 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 792968)
Cool. I'll let you know how it goes.

I'm just not sure why someone would do that to a house they didn't own. The owners had no idea she'd done that. Ugh!

LOL! I don't know why they would do that to a house they DID OWN!!! LOL!

Good luck! Gotta run!! Glad I popped in when I did. I'm a jack of all trades and a master of none! :ursofunny

HeavenlyOne 08-25-2009 12:59 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792974)
LOL! I don't know why they would do that to a house they DID OWN!!! LOL!

Good luck! Gotta run!! Glad I popped in when I did. I'm a jack of all trades and a master of none! :ursofunny

Thanks a bunch. I might post pics later...before and after!

Timmy 08-25-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Some strippers are better than others, that's for sure!

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 01:04 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 792982)
Some strippers are better than others, that's for sure!

Go find something else to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smack :thwak :smack :thwak

Timmy 08-25-2009 01:04 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 792982)
Some strippers are better than others, that's for sure!

For example:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792944)
. . . The Stripper I recommended in my earlier post is very messy, runny and STINKS.

. . .

Not a good stripper.

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 01:05 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 792986)
For example:



Not a good stripper.

It's like a train wreck - I just keep watching!!!!! :ursofunny

Timmy 08-25-2009 01:06 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792989)
It's like a train wreck - I just keep watching!!!!! :ursofunny

Can't help but watch, yeah, I know how that is!

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 792991)
Can't help but watch, yeah, I know how that is!

H1!!! Drag this man out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

:ursofunny

Timmy 08-25-2009 01:10 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 792997)
H1!!! Drag this man out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

:ursofunny

Drag? Sorry, not my thing.

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

Timmy 08-25-2009 01:11 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 792999)
Drag? Sorry, not my thing.

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

Oh, but I'm not here to judge! :heeheehee

Pressing-On 08-25-2009 01:11 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 792999)
Drag? Sorry, not my thing.

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

I'm so putting you on Ignore, Tim-may!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :foottap

Timmy 08-25-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Need advice about latex paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 793002)
I'm so putting you on Ignore, Tim-may!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :foottap

:nahnah


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