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Esther 08-28-2009 12:43 AM

Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
 
PLACERVILLE, Calif. - Joyous, miraculous news that a little girl kidnapped nearly two decades ago was found alive gave way Thursday to the horrifying details of how police say she has lived all those years: kept by a convicted rapist in his backyard as a sex slave and forced to bear two of his children.

Jaycee Lee Dugard, who was 11 in 1991 when she was snatched from her school bus stop, was locked away from the outside world behind a series of fences, sheds and tents in the back of a suburban home, police said.

Her abductor, investigators said, raped her for years and fathered two children with her, the first when Jaycee was about 14. Those children, both girls now 11 and 15, also were kept hidden away in the backyard compound.
"None of the children have ever been to school, they've never been to a doctor," El Dorado County Undersheriff Fred Kollar said. "They were kept in complete isolation in this compound."

Dugard, now 29, was reunited Thursday with her mother, but the meeting was tempered with sadness as the family learned their smiling, blue-eyed, blonde ponytailed little girl had spent most of her life as a virtual slave.

"She was in good health, but living in a backyard for the past 18 years does take its toll," Kollar said.

The backyard compound had electricity from extension cords and a rudimentary outhouse and shower, "as if you were camping," Kollar said.

Convicted sex offender Phillip Garrido, 58, was charged with various kidnapping and sex charges. His wife was also arrested, and authorities said she was with Garrido during the kidnapping in South Lake Tahoe.
Wait until you hear the story of what took place at this house," he said. "You are going to be completely impressed. It's a disgusting thing that took place with me at the beginning. But I turned my life completely around and to be able to understand that, you have to start there."

He added: If you take this a step at a time you're going to fall over backwards and in the end, you're going to find the most powerful heart-warming story."
Dugard's stepfather, who witnessed her abduction and was a longtime suspect in the case, said he was overwhelmed by the news after doing everything he could to help find her.

"It broke my marriage up. I've gone through hell, I mean I'm a suspect up until yesterday," a tearful Carl Probyn, 60, told The Associated Press at his home in Orange, California.

For more details http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32583149...rts/?GT1=43001

It is mind boggling to think how this man and woman got away with this.

Even worse is how he claims to be a christian!

coadie 08-28-2009 07:05 AM

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Her abductor, investigators said, raped her for years and fathered two children with her, the first when Jaycee was about 14. Those children, both girls now 11 and 15, also were kept hidden away in the backyard compound.
"None of the children have ever been to school, they've never been to a doctor," El Dorado County Undersheriff Fred Kollar said. "They were kept in complete isolation in this compound."
Does that mean they were not delivered by a doc?

Evang.Benincasa 08-28-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 794954)
Does that mean they were not delivered by a doc?

you are correct.

commonsense 08-28-2009 09:49 AM

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A really strange story, but it does give hope to other families with unsolved kidnappings.

MissBrattified 08-28-2009 09:51 AM

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I'm so happy she's been found--how great for the family. I imagine she has a long way to go to be normal, though. :(

Scott Hutchinson 08-28-2009 10:01 AM

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As a parent,this is the kind of thing,that worries you when one of your kids doesn't answer their cell-phone,and they were supposed to call you at a certain time.
There are some real nutjobs out there.

tstew 08-28-2009 11:34 AM

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In my opinion, the other sad thing is that they will never be able to give them the sort of punishment they deserve for something like this. It is certainly not allowed...and it may just not be possible anyway.

Baron1710 08-28-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 795069)
In my opinion, the other sad thing is that they will never be able to give them the sort of punishment they deserve for something like this. It is certainly not allowed...and it may just not be possible anyway.

What kind of punishment did you have in mind?

Esther 08-28-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 795005)
I'm so happy she's been found--how great for the family. I imagine she has a long way to go to be normal, though. :(


I wonder if they can ever be normal without God's help.

coadie 08-28-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 795087)
I wonder if they can ever be normal without God's help.

the 11 and 15 year old most likely can't read. How hard is that?

(of course we have drop outs that can't read)

SeekingOne 08-28-2009 12:45 PM

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Oh man, putting this girl, her kids and family on my prayer list for sure! I don't think they will ever get removed, because those memories will never go away. I hope they find God's healing and much needed grace.

Elizabeth 08-28-2009 12:46 PM

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Incredible story-- my heart goes out to this poor girl.

What about the abductors wife!? She just stood by for 18 yrs watching this happen. I am so glad that she will be facing charges as well.

I just don't think they deserve any kind of trial, they should just be sent to prison for the rest of their lives period.

Esther 08-28-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 795136)
Incredible story-- my heart goes out to this poor girl.

What about the abductors wife? She just stood by for 18 yrs watching this happen. I am so glad that she will be facing charges as well.

I just don't think they deserve any kind of trial, they should just be sent to prison for the rest of their lives period.

She helped with the abduction.

Esther 08-28-2009 12:53 PM

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Dugard's stepfather, who witnessed her abduction and was a longtime suspect in the case, said he was overwhelmed by the news after doing everything he could to help find her.

"It broke my marriage up. I've gone through hell, I mean I'm a suspect up until yesterday," a tearful Carl Probyn, 60, told The Associated Press at his home in Orange, California.

Another victim was the stepfather. I'm glad his name is finally cleared.

Elizabeth 08-28-2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 795140)
She helped with the abduction.

What I really meant was how about that wife! I knew she was apart of it- what kind of woman lets this happen to another woman's child?

Hope she goes to prison FOREVER!

Elizabeth 08-28-2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 795143)
Dugard's stepfather, who witnessed her abduction and was a longtime suspect in the case, said he was overwhelmed by the news after doing everything he could to help find her.

"It broke my marriage up. I've gone through hell, I mean I'm a suspect up until yesterday," a tearful Carl Probyn, 60, told The Associated Press at his home in Orange, California.

Another victim was the stepfather. I'm glad his name is finally cleared.

Amazing story-

Esther 08-28-2009 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 795147)
What I really meant was how about that wife! I knew she was apart of it- what kind of woman lets this happen to another woman's child?

Hope she goes to prison FOREVER!

I agree. But she needs to live outside not in an air conditioned room.

Elizabeth 08-28-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 795151)
I agree. But she needs to live outside not in an air conditioned room.

That is right! She needs to live in a shed and bathe outside too-

People are sick!

Esther 08-28-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 795153)
That is right! She needs to live in a shed and bathe outside too-

People are sick!

Amen

tstew 08-28-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 795076)
What kind of punishment did you have in mind?

I don't know (or really want to say :) )...I'm just saying that in some cases, crimes are so deplorable and go on for so long, that I don't believe true justice is possible (especially in our legal system).

coadie 08-28-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 795194)
I don't know (or really want to say :) )...I'm just saying that in some cases, crimes are so deplorable and go on for so long, that I don't believe true justice is possible (especially in our legal system).

Now for an ethical question. Our culture finds this story disgusting. But one part many don't find disgusting would be the abortion for the mother pregnant at age 14 by a child molestor and aborting the 2 liittle ones that are now 11 and 15. Pro abortion people have a "out of sight out of mind" coping mechanism. I say the 2 girls are valued and precious. I understand they will never be able to see/visit their dad before they turn 18.

Esther 08-28-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 795194)
I don't know (or really want to say :) )...I'm just saying that in some cases, crimes are so deplorable and go on for so long, that I don't believe true justice is possible (especially in our legal system).

:thumbsup You are so right!

GraceAmazing 08-28-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 795202)
Now for an ethical question. Our culture finds this story disgusting. But one part many don't find disgusting would be the abortion for the mother pregnant at age 14 by a child molestor and aborting the 2 liittle ones that are now 11 and 15. Pro abortion people have a "out of sight out of mind" coping mechanism. I say the 2 girls are valued and precious. I understand they will never be able to see/visit their dad before they turn 18.

And you think they SHOULD see this person who is quote/unquote their father BEFORE they're 18??? I'm sorry, but I don't see the harm in them NOT seeing this man before then...and even after personally.

coadie 08-28-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GraceAmazing (Post 795216)
And you think they
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SHOULD
see this person who is quote/unquote their father BEFORE they're 18??? I'm sorry, but I don't see the harm in them NOT seeing this man before then...and even after personally.

Oh no. He was already a molestor and required to stay away from minors.

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I understand they will never be able to see/visit their dad before they turn 18
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The word "should" didn't come from me.

Esther 08-28-2009 04:29 PM

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I haven't heard yet how she got released. Anyone know?

coadie 08-28-2009 05:03 PM

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http://www.gjsentinel.com/hp/content...und-image.html

picture of the tent

TJJJ 08-28-2009 05:32 PM

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How mean all you ...

HARSH, UNFORGIVING AND HATEFUL people are!


You ought to love this person, he probably just did not have the upbringing you had! He really is the victim in this!


How can you judge him for this? What right do you folks have to judge this poor, misguided, religious, man for his slight mess ups?


How dare you judge him! Calling out for his and his wife's imprisonment for a little misguided action!


Shame on you all!


He obviously was born this way! He can't help his feelings for young children!


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This is just a satire for all the people that always harp about us uc's judging people! Really we think the same way!

Baron1710 08-28-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 795194)
I don't know (or really want to say :) )...I'm just saying that in some cases, crimes are so deplorable and go on for so long, that I don't believe true justice is possible (especially in our legal system).

I guess it depends on why you feel we should "punish" and what the result should be.

Do we lock people up to rehabilitate them?

To protect others from them?

Because they deserve it?

Or is it revenge?

SeekingOne 08-28-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 795384)

This is just a satire for all the people that always harp about us uc's judging people! Really we think the same way!

:ursofunny But so true! It all started in the Garden . . . we want to judge instead of being like Jesus. He came to love and said He would leave the judging to the Father. (Now that sounded Trinny-like LOL but YOU know what I mean!)

SeekingOne 08-28-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 795386)
I guess it depends on why you feel we should "punish" and what the result should be.

Do we lock people up to rehabilitate them?

To protect others from them?

Because they deserve it?

Or is it revenge?

:thumbsup We all deserve death for our sins, right? I hope he discovers Jesus and brings others to the truth. If he finds Jesus, the all things will work together for good for him. :heart

Baron1710 08-28-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SeekingOne (Post 795397)
:thumbsup We all deserve death for our sins, right? I hope he discovers Jesus and brings others to the truth. If he finds Jesus, the all things will work together for good for him. :heart

But that has no relation whatsoever as to why we punish.

SeekingOne 08-28-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 795400)
But that has no relation whatsoever as to why we punish.

Sorry, I was responding more to the question of deserving it or is it revenge. I certainly hope it is NOT revenge in our hearts we wish for. :heart

Baron1710 08-28-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SeekingOne (Post 795423)
Sorry, I was responding more to the question of deserving it or is it revenge. I certainly hope it is NOT revenge in our hearts we wish for. :heart

Perhaps. But wasn't revenge part of the justice system of the OT?

Esther 08-28-2009 06:34 PM

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The big break in the case came Tuesday when campus cop Allison Jacobs spotted Garrido and the two young girls at the University of California, Berkeley.

Garrido was passing out religious literature without permission at the university's famed Sather Gate, the scene of student protests in the 1960s. When Jacobs ran a background check on Garrido, she learned he was a registered sex offender on lifetime federal parole for a 1971 kidnapping and rape.

Jacobs contacted Garrido's parole officer, who called the convict in for a meeting Wednesday.

Garrido showed up to meet his parole officer with his wife, the two girls he fathered, and a woman named Allissa - who turned out to be Jaycee.

SeekingOne 08-28-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 795426)
Perhaps. But wasn't revenge part of the justice system of the OT?

Why ponder that? Jesus came to save and Jesus is love. If we are to be like Him, we won't ever want revenge. If we are like Jesus, we will love our enemies. :heart

Esther 08-28-2009 06:37 PM

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Damon Robinson, 38, said he knew Garrido had girls living in his backyard and raised the red flag to sheriff's deputies over two years ago.

"I put it in the police's hands. What else could I do," said Robinson, adding the deputies investigated his complaint, but nothing changed.



You have to wonder did the police even investigate after it being reported???

Baron1710 08-28-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SeekingOne (Post 795431)
Why ponder that? Jesus came to save and Jesus is love. If we are to be like Him, we won't ever want revenge. If we are like Jesus, we will love our enemies. :heart

So we should set murderers and rapist free? Asking why we punish and how we punish is an important question. I doubt you really think that people shouldn't be punished.

SeekingOne 08-28-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 795430)

Garrido showed up to meet his parole officer with his wife, the two girls he fathered, and a woman named Allissa - who turned out to be Jaycee.

Is is safe to assume that he showed up with everyone so that he would be excused from being with kids because they are his kids? I understand he took his kids to work with him, that is interesting. Why have them live in the backyard if he didn't mind taking them to work?

Oh well, lots of questions but the answers are none of my business. :smack

Evang.Benincasa 08-28-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 795076)
What kind of punishment did you have in mind?

Have them move in with you, and have a court order that you would have to support them (with your own money) until they are rehabilitated.

In JESUS NAME

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Baron1710 08-28-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 795437)
Have them move in with you, and have a court order that you would have to support them (with your own money) until they are rehabilitated.

In JESUS NAME

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Better yet have them read your posts on AFF for a week straight, that would be punishment enough for anyone.


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