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EA 08-28-2009 01:59 PM

Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Just how liberal is AFF?

Tina 08-28-2009 02:01 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
HA!

This could be interesting... Will check back after I fix a meal for my family to eat before they have to leave at 4pm.

EA 08-28-2009 02:01 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Gomer as in Hosea and Gomer.

RandyWayne 08-28-2009 02:07 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Shazam!

Digging4Truth 08-28-2009 02:09 PM

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So you are here solely to rail on AFF then?

EA 08-28-2009 02:15 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 795198)
So you are here solely to rail on AFF then?


No, I'm here to expose hard-core liberal whackos and restore a sense of normalcy to this precious site. I feel a sense of duty and obligation to take broom in one hand and BB gun in the other.

BTW, Jesus loves you.:thumbsup

Michael The Disciple 08-28-2009 02:38 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 795205)
No, I'm here to expose hard-core liberal whackos and restore a sense of normalcy to this precious site. I feel a sense of duty and obligation to take broom in one hand and BB gun in the other.

BTW, Jesus loves you.:thumbsup

Define Liberal so we can answer.

Jermyn Davidson 08-28-2009 02:40 PM

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EA,

Which would you use on me-- the broom or the BB gun? :)

deltaguitar 08-28-2009 03:04 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 795205)
No, I'm here to expose hard-core liberal whackos and restore a sense of normalcy to this precious site. I feel a sense of duty and obligation to take broom in one hand and BB gun in the other.

BTW, Jesus loves you.:thumbsup

Look if the conservatives would just come back and start threads and support their arguements then balance would be restored. The problem is that the three-step doctrine can't hold up to open and honest discussion.

A few months ago I started a thread for three-steppers so that they could give support for their doctrine. I actually wanted to help them and no one stepped up.

Digging4Truth 08-28-2009 03:05 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 795205)
No, I'm here to expose hard-core liberal whackos and restore a sense of normalcy to this precious site. I feel a sense of duty and obligation to take broom in one hand and BB gun in the other.

BTW, Jesus loves you.:thumbsup

I am fully aware Jesus loves me.

I'm just glad to see that you know that too.

BISHOP177 08-28-2009 03:36 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
"a broom & a bb gun"!
Now that's what it's like to be like jesus?
How about some bread and fish (or is that a store bought pix)?

Our master was moved with compassion when he saw sheep without a shepherd. He knew what they would do to him, yet he commanded the diciples to "give them to eat"! No broom... No gun.. Just the greatest love the universe would ever see!

We have a treasure.... Let's not sweep it out with the trash(?) or blast those he loves, with our "strong stand".

pelathais 08-28-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
There you go again :sad... using the false "liberal vs. conservative" dichotomy as it exists with the Apostolic movement.

AFF is in fact so conservative that the White House has a secret Czar to review our activity.

AFF is so conservative that the 3 authentic liberal posters won't even answer any questions - one of them because of a legtimate fear over vandalism to his private property.

What "libs?" I ask. What's liberal about AFF?

Irreligious 08-28-2009 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 795205)
No, I'm here to expose hard-core liberal whackos and restore a sense of normalcy to this precious site. I feel a sense of duty and obligation to take broom in one hand and BB gun in the other.

BTW, Jesus loves you.:thumbsup


Am I a hard-core liberal whacko?

I fell a sense of duty and obligation to love you, appreciate you, embrace you, accept you, and believe you, no matter how much you don't like what I stand for or how many shots you take at me with your bb gun.

Irreligious 08-28-2009 03:53 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BISHOP177 (Post 795302)
"a broom & a bb gun"!
Now that's what it's like to be like jesus?
How about some bread and fish (or is that a store bought pix)?

Our master was moved with compassion when he saw sheep without a shepherd. He knew what they would do to him, yet he commanded the diciples to "give them to eat"! No broom... No gun.. Just the greatest love the universe would ever see!

We have a treasure.... Let's not sweep it out with the trash(?) or blast those he loves, with our "strong stand".


Thanks Bishop! Good to see you here! You need to post more. Your years and wisdom could speak to us.

CC1 08-28-2009 04:43 PM

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EA,

By 99.9% of the religous world and secular world I am considered very conservative both religously and politically.

Only within the realm of old time Oneness Pentecost am I considered a liberal.

TJJJ 08-28-2009 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 795353)
EA,

By 99.9% of the religous world and secular world I am considered very conservative both religously and politically.

Only within the realm of old time Oneness Pentecost am I considered a liberal.

Liberals!


All Liberals!


Totally all Liberals!


But...

Jesus said I gotta love even the Libs!

Lord Bless:thumbsup

Shawn 08-28-2009 05:01 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
conservative, liberal.........meh,

I'm just a christian.

Baron1710 08-28-2009 05:08 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 795205)
No, I'm here to expose hard-core liberal whackos and restore a sense of normalcy to this precious site. I feel a sense of duty and obligation to take broom in one hand and BB gun in the other.

BTW, Jesus loves you.:thumbsup

This place isn't liberal, It is filled with conservatives whining about how liberal it is.

noeticknight 08-28-2009 05:31 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 795308)
There you go again :sad... using the false "liberal vs. conservative" dichotomy as it exists with the Apostolic movement.

AFF is in fact so conservative that the White House has a secret Czar to review our activity.

AFF is so conservative that the 3 authentic liberal posters won't even answer any questions - one of them because of a legtimate fear over vandalism to his private property.

What "libs?" I ask. What's liberal about AFF?

A definition from the starter of this thread on conservatism vs. liberalism is certainly in order:bubble

*AQuietPlace* 08-28-2009 05:56 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 795353)
EA,

By 99.9% of the religous world and secular world I am considered very conservative both religously and politically.

Only within the realm of old time Oneness Pentecost am I considered a liberal.

LOL. Isn't that the truth!

Evang.Benincasa 08-28-2009 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 795266)
Look if the conservatives would just come back and start threads and support their arguements then balance would be restored. The problem is that the three-step doctrine can't hold up to open and honest discussion.

A few months ago I started a thread for three-steppers so that they could give support for their doctrine. I actually wanted to help them and no one stepped up.

So, when are you all renaming the forum Baptist Friends Forum? :heeheehee:

Is Jesus coming soon? :rolleyes2:

*AQuietPlace* 08-28-2009 06:33 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
While looking back through the archives I discovered that people have been complaining that this forum is too liberal, or not Apostolic enough, pretty much since its inception.

Evang.Benincasa 08-28-2009 06:36 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BISHOP177 (Post 795302)
"a broom & a bb gun"!
Now that's what it's like to be like jesus?

No, to be like Jesus is to use a scourge of small cords.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BISHOP177 (Post 795302)
How about some bread and fish (or is that a store bought pix)?

No, bread and fish were only for those who wanted to listen, yet after tthey listened and found out there were hard sayings invovled, they split. Jesus then told His 12 if they wanted to follow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BISHOP177 (Post 795302)
Our master was moved with compassion when he saw sheep without a shepherd.

Those were the Jews, who had a corrupt high priesthood, and were involved by a temple cult. A cult that placed more emphasis on a building than their God. Whoops, hey doesn't that sound familiar?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BISHOP177 (Post 795302)
He knew what they would do to him, yet he commanded the diciples to "give them to eat"! No broom... No gun.. Just the greatest love the universe would ever see!

Yet, after they had their Filet-o-fish Sandwiches, Jesus started to preach about some hard food, being His flesh and blood. They lost their appetites and walked away. Jesus is maturity, the ones who walk away are those who had understood the details, yet didn't want to pay the price.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BISHOP177 (Post 795302)
We have a treasure.... Let's not sweep it out with the trash(?) or blast those he loves, with our "strong stand".

You know, my siblings all agree, that my father and mother would correct us, and not raise their voices (If my father was yelling at you, you weren't in trouble, it was when he was talking low, you had to watch for).

Jesus in John 6 wasn't using a cord of whips, turning over tables, or calling people snakes, or varmints. Jesus was just telling it like it is. You see, that wasn't in no way blasting. Jesus was just telling them about eating His flesh and drinking His blood. That they wanted no part of. You see doctrine divides, and that is what the Charismatic movements found out during their latter pain movement. If they could make it more user friendly they could fill more seats, and henceforth be able to fill the coffers with gold.

Smooth words of sweet love messages might fill the pews with other men's wives, and children. It may appear to be growth, but it is nothing more than a crowd. Because it sure not Biblical Christianity. No, not in a long shot.

In JESUS NAME

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

pelathais 08-28-2009 06:50 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 795416)
So, when are you all renaming the forum Baptist Friends Forum? :heeheehee:

Is Jesus coming soon? :rolleyes2:

So when are the "Three Steppers" going to step up? :heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa 08-28-2009 06:52 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 795449)
So when are the "Three Steppers" going to step up? :heeheehee

They already did. :)

pelathais 08-28-2009 06:54 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 795428)
While looking back through the archives I discovered that people have been complaining that this forum is too liberal, or not Apostolic enough, pretty much since its inception.

Yup.

pelathais 08-28-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 795451)
They already did. :)

No, they stepped out. They still haven't stepped up. http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...cons/icon7.gif

Irreligious 08-28-2009 08:18 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 795432)
No, to be like Jesus is to use a scourge of small cords.



No, bread and fish were only for those who wanted to listen, yet after tthey listened and found out there were hard sayings invovled, they split. Jesus then told His 12 if they wanted to follow.



Those were the Jews, who had a corrupt high priesthood, and were involved by a temple cult. A cult that placed more emphasis on a building than their God. Whoops, hey doesn't that sound familiar?



Yet, after they had their Filet-o-fish Sandwiches, Jesus started to preach about some hard food, being His flesh and blood. They lost their appetites and walked away. Jesus is maturity, the ones who walk away are those who had understood the details, yet didn't want to pay the price.




You know, my siblings all agree, that my father and mother would correct us, and not raise their voices (If my father was yelling at you, you weren't in trouble, it was when he was talking low, you had to watch for).

Jesus in John 6 wasn't using a cord of whips, turning over tables, or calling people snakes, or varmints. Jesus was just telling it like it is. You see, that wasn't in no way blasting. Jesus was just telling them about eating His flesh and drinking His blood. That they wanted no part of. You see doctrine divides, and that is what the Charismatic movements found out during their latter pain movement. If they could make it more user friendly they could fill more seats, and henceforth be able to fill the coffers with gold.

Smooth words of sweet love messages might fill the pews with other men's wives, and children. It may appear to be growth, but it is nothing more than a crowd. Because it sure not Biblical Christianity. No, not in a long shot.


Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com



:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

Bishop, you have now received the "I will dissect your post into 98 parts and drive you nuts" treatment! Welcome to the club!!!

Tina 08-28-2009 08:37 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 795266)
Look if the conservatives would just come back and start threads and support their arguements then balance would be restored. The problem is that the three-step doctrine can't hold up to open and honest discussion.

A few months ago I started a thread for three-steppers so that they could give support for their doctrine. I actually wanted to help them and no one stepped up.

Actually, there are still plenty of people here who you would call three steppers. The thing is that those of us who are three steppers have better things to do than to argue with someone who just wants to argue. If someone were serious about wanting a Bible study type discussion, I'm sure someone would offer to take it to PM. People are sick of derailed threads, so they stopped posting. Many people have used hours of their time here in the past, used scripture to support their positions-- only to be told they were twisting the scripture, etc. It gets really old, and honestly, I can't blame them for just not posting anymore. I really hate it that many of them are gone-- because they are missed on this forum.

If you want to discuss the three steps with someone-- find a local pastor willing to give you a home Bible study. I'm sure you can find at least one "three stepper" as you call it, in the area you're in. If you can't-- and you seriously want someone to show you the "three steps" in scripture-- PM me some contact info, and I'll put a local pastor in your area in touch with you. I do have access to church directories so I'm sure I can find someone.

Michael The Disciple 08-28-2009 08:45 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 795266)
Look if the conservatives would just come back and start threads and support their arguements then balance would be restored. The problem is that the three-step doctrine can't hold up to open and honest discussion.

A few months ago I started a thread for three-steppers so that they could give support for their doctrine. I actually wanted to help them and no one stepped up.

Sometimes there just is not time for all the forums we are on. Anyway I have not had anyone convince me that water and spirit baptism is not essential for salvation.

Does that make me a conservative? Even if I have worn a beard for 28 of the last 30 years? And I see no sin in a woman trimming her hair?

rgcraig 08-28-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Just How Liberal is AFF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 795428)
While looking back through the archives I discovered that people have been complaining that this forum is too liberal, or not Apostolic enough, pretty much since its inception.

You are exactly right!


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