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to Elders Burk and Benicasa
To Elders Benicasa and Burk
I am sorry you both feel I have in your words grossly misrepresented your position on women preachers…I agree that is very possible for I did not read the many many posts and when a sister got involved it became heart rendering to me as I am sure I misunderstood but my mind was taken back to many years ago when Brother Alvear pleaded for a missionary to go to the country of Paraguay and who volunteered to go after no man stood up was a little lady with 5 small children still at home. A lady that her husband left her when she became a believer. A term we use in Brazil for Christian. Sister Petrolina left Brazil with her children and lived in dire poverty, building a little tabernacle with her own hands from scraps. Living in a home with no electricity, sleeping on mats on a dirt floor, cooking on old bricks outside. A home where she did not have running water or any of the necessary things of life. Many times going without, yet she won souls to the Lord. One soul became a Pastor who still lives in Paraguay( far from that area). We raised her 5 small children; today one of her sons is a faith missionary in the jungle and the other pastors several churches in northeast Brazil. Her youngest son works in the music ministry. Her daughters are married to young preachers…but Sister Petrolina never lived to see her beautiful children grow up into Gods service, she was martyred in Paraguay. My mind went to another sister in Brazil (a preacher) that was brutally raped in a village where she was preaching but not even such a traumatic experience has silenced her lips…she preaches on… My mind went to a little sister in Bahia that pastors’ a little church that most of all her kin folks are Branhamites, yet in the mist of laughs and persecution she has a wonderful group of people today, her husband is the head pastor but when she started out he barely was a Christian and all his folks are Branhamites. My mind went to a little pastor lady that walks hundreds of miles each year to take the gospel to farm areas and interior places risking her life..Sister Celia… My mind went back to another little pastor lady that did not seek the job but because of a imbalance in the brain her husband lost his mind…he was a fine pastor…she so bravely takes his place and has went through living hell, yet in the mist of so much suffering she has now started a second church in the city where she lives. My mind goes to Sister Roas a preacher…a pastor’s wife that help the fort in the far backlands of an interior state for Pastor Jose taking care of services riding on the back of milk trucks to go to the farm lands where a church is being built today. Pastor Jose did not mind that his wife helped him, in fact, they have worked together for many years in the gospel. Another sister's husband messed up with a church lady, yet she never missed a beat taking care of the church though her personal trials and has witnessed growth and blessings. Brother Burt, Brother Benicasa I have never been known to fight men or disrespect men and my post meant no harm and I never dreamed you would take offence…I really meant it joking…as that is a part of my personality. I personally know what it is to work in a leper colony for years, sleeping among the lepers and eating in their homes…change bedpans, wrap sores and preach Jesus to them…I did not have men offering to take my job…how I wished many times to have a man to help lift them, bath them, especially the men…but I did whatever was needed, including teaching them the story of Jesus. I seldom mention this however for your knowledge I was the first white woman that ever walked into the tribe of the Xavante Indians..cannibal Indians…I stood there before completely naked men and told them the story of Jesus…Do you think that made me uncomfortable? Not only their nakness but knowing they would decide IF I would live. Twice I had spoken in Catholic mass in Brazil telling the priest, nuns and those present the story of Jesus. I remember many years ago in an Indian village standing in the freezing rain in far south Brazil with two other sisters and my baby…we had no place to sleep but our bus did not come to pick us up and the Indians were noted in that place for raping women…we prayed until God sent 2 drunk men that let us catch a ride in the back of an old pickup truck over slippery muddy rainy roads, not knowing if we would get back into a town where we would be safe. I remember many times taking one of our little boys with me and getting off the long bus ride to the backlands of Bahia then hitch hiking for a ride back on to lands where the bus did not run… I remember walking for hours with Sister Sonia drinking from ponds where the water was slimy green…just to get back into some area where He has not been named. Today Sister Sonia health is gone due to the parasites that have destroyed her body. I baptized a trinity pastor and his wife in the Amazon jungle in a little stream at night full of alligators. Many times in my life have I sat through witchdoctor meetings to wait until it was over to tell the witchdoctor the story of Jesus…sometimes I was severely persecuted other times the message was received with joy. One witch doctor shook a black chicken in my face and told me he was going to kill the chicken and drink its blood and I would die from the curse he would put upon me. Do you think I have enjoyed per se going into villages where there was not even an outhouse…baths taken in creeks knowing the native men were trying to get a look at the foreigner and what food they have is horrible to say the least. I do not agree with ladies that are brazen and bold and march to pulpits imitating men, however, in God’s eternal plan HE called and I have never lost the wonder of being a missionary. Once again I ask the forgiveness of anyone I might have offended. And if you feel I have misrepresented you and your views I do ask forgiveness. |
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My goodness sister Alvear, live forever!
Just to think here in the states.....men argue about how white your dress shirt must be............or how silver a watch is.......or how women must wear panty hoses (except designer hoses, that's a sin-lol).......or what restaurant they'll be eating at after service.....and here you are in front of cannibals preaching Jesus. Some of these so-called pastors probably couldn't live a day in your shoes. |
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Sister Alvear, I think your life speaks for itself. Shame on anyone that would degenerate you, man or woman.
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Awesome, Sis. A!! You have done things that most men or women preachers wouldn't even attempt. That's why you have our respect on here.
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Sis A, what a wonderful testimony of what God has done in your life. I'll agree here with what Bro Norris taught. God prefers to use a man, but if a man won't go, he will use a woman.:thumbsup |
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Wait a minute, wait a minute! Burk and Benincasa being offended!:ursofunny
I don't believe it for a moment! Thick skinned and hard headed those two are! RRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHTTTT TTTTTTTT |
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What an inspiration you are. I do believe God has to call someone to be able to do all you have done.
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Oh drat, you meant Sis A!:thumbsup |
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you know I was probably not His first choice...but it has been my blessing to serve. Love you folks.
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FanTASTic post, Sister Alvear. :thumbsup
I must have missed the disagreement or offense, but your response is gracious, ladylike and thoroughly Christian as usual. |
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:rooting:rooting:rooting:rooting:rooting
:rooting:rooting:rooting:rooting:rooting :rooting:rooting:rooting:rooting:rooting :rooting:rooting:rooting:rooting:rooting Your reward will be equal to your work my friend and what a reward it will be. and before anyone starts thinking I believe in a works based salvation you can just stop. |
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God Sees ALL and He will reward you for your sacrifices soon. Thank you for your many years of selfish service to win souls and spread TRUTH to a lost world. |
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This testimony is priceless!
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I have the utmost respect for the missionaries who do the job we all should be doing.God bless and keep you and your family Sister Alvear.
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What a life lived well - answering the call to serve where God sent you out of love for Him and the lost. Thank you for reminding us what's really important.
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We must all check our spirits maybe mine was wrong and like I said maybe I did not read enough of the posts...anyway it has never been my intention to hurt anyone. I could get on that forum and quote scriptures and history but it would be an unending battle...
We fight the dark world of Satan in Brazil...I choose not to fight my brothers...I do not know if they even think I am saved but the JUDGE of the earth will determine that factor and not us human beings... I heard one of my sons say he did not believe men that did not believe in women preachers were saved...I said, Son, leave judging up to God...don't say things like that...of course his real mother died for preaching... |
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I speak from experience. I have heard women preach at Gen. Conf. on Ladies day. Not one comes close to Sis Alvear. There are music stations called easy listening, by far Sister Alvear is the real easy listening station.
I remember the first time I heard her. It was on the internet from Br. Rutledge church. As I sat in my office listening tears began to roll down my cheeks. That had never happened before when listening to tapes or CD messages. I played that clip for the church the next service. As she spoke tears began to roll down the cheeks of our members. That night we decided we would help the work in Brazil. We were in the middle of a building program that was stopped because of ownership of property we were selling. This problem was a year old and we couldn't get the other party to even talk. That night we made a pledge of $2000.00 . We sent the money the next day and within two week our problem was resolved. We sold the land and built the church with money left over. Sister Alvear is the real deal. I suggest if one is able visit Br. and Sister Alvear in Maceo as we did, you won't be disappointed, it was the experience of a life time. |
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I think there is a difference between ministering to people, telling people about Jesus, and holding certain positions in church government. ANYONE can minister to people, and tell people about Jesus! As a matter of fact, we are commanded to!
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One of the greatest pastors I know was Eva Hunt who pastored in Pana, Illinois for many years. She succeeded where men failed. Her life story was in August issue of the Pentecostal Hearld. She was a fantastic woman with a great sense of humor.
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I've noticed the same men who object to women preachers don't usually object to women missionaries, Isn't that strange.
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I remember Sister Eva Hunt. She was a wonderful minister of the gospel. She was a dear friend of Bro. and Sis Jackson who then pastored in Springfield Illinois.
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Awesome words, Sis Alvear,
I have benefited from women preachers, but I cannot take it when they spit and stomp and act like men. lol. I am sure the anointed women preachers think the same way. |
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Thank you Brother Blume...I was under the impression you too were offended at me...God's blessings on all...
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Sis. Alvear,
I believe you have exceeded what is expected of anyone regarding this matter. Let's just let it be over with. You said something that we all probably thought, you've apologized over it, they've accepted it - it's done. And in MY opinion, you didn't really say anything offensive. We've all read what some have said about the subject with our own eyes. |
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all I know is if it werent for a Lady preacher 4 generations ago, no one in my family would know the Apostolic message.
So I will let others argue over what they think bible says and just sit back and thank God for ladies like Sister Alvear and those who have worked with her in Brazil and Bolivia and for my own great grandmother who died with thick calouses on her knees from prayer. God bless all those who serve others. |
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a GODLY lady will never hsve to spit and beat pulpits...if God uses a lady He will use her AS a lady...well that is my opionion...
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I can never forget Sister Mary Williams, Sister Rita Dawson and many beloved ladies that have left a great precious memory for Pentecost.
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Sis. Willie Johnson, Sis. Lee from Grand Prairie,Texas.
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Sis. Alvear, after a long day at work, I thought I was too numb in mind and tired in body to read your long post. I looked at it, saw the length and thought I can't read it. It's too long. I don't have the strength.
It wasn't too long and I feel strengthened from reading it. Plus the tears began to flow and a refreshing came. Some have words; some have works. You have both. God bless you. Send a private message or email when you are coming through this area. Love ya, Sis. TL |
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