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It's sad.




It's sad that we are fighting a spirit that places more value in rules than people.

It's sad that any measure of rule enforcement is permissable, with no regard for who get hurts.

It's sad that some of us have lost the ability to be empathetic and compassionate.

It's sad that we love our rules more than we love our God.

It's sad that we love our doctrines more than we love the Truth.

It's sad that we can have bitterness and hatred in our hearts and still feel justified simply because we have not committed murder.

It's sad that we focus on our looks more than our attitudes.

It's sad that humans are comforted by their own morality instead of the rest and peace Jesus paid for.

It's sad that we measure ourselves against each other instead of Jesus.

It's sad that we've replaced Jesus with our works.



It's sad.

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It's sad that EA has become a Liberal.

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I think it is sad EA will not take these issues to his new super that just got voted in instead of posting them on here..

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"Nothing gives one a more spuriously good conscience than keeping rules, even if there has been a total absence of all real charity and faith."

C.S. Lewis

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Dude, what's your problem? Seriously.

What does this have to do with any org and my super?

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Very sad. We have made idols out of our rules.

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It sad that we have labels that dump us into categories and lists.

UC and Con auto-magically drop one on the "legalist Pharisee" list and Mod and LIB dumps us onto the "let it all hang out, probably wears a speedo to the beach" list.

Probably falls into the "It's sad that we measure ourselves against each other instead of Jesus." sad bit.

EA is right, it is sad.

But on the other side of the coin it is also sad that so many have been turned off by the sad rule type things above listed that they have tossed the baby, bathwater and tub out the window.

That is sad as well.

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Amen, Brother Atkinson

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There was a baby in there? :blink

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Oh my Ed, after reading your opening post I realized:

It's sad that our rules have become our god.

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Not all rules are bad or sad.

Like "don't run with scissors" good rule.

Even church rules. "Standard" isn't a dirty word. Modesty, sobriety, moderation, these are good thing.

We just gotta remember why we do all that to be pleasing to God, a living sacrifice. If Jesus is front and center the other stuff will work out. If leaders remember that they don't rule the roost and that Jesus is still in charge of his church... then there is no reason to be sad.

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:thumbsup :thumbsup

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The problem is when you won't even allow questioning of some of the rules. When you won't even really research it yourself, because YOU BELIEVE IT and THAT SETTLES IT. You won't even consider that maybe the 'other side' has some valid points.

When a doctrine is so sacred that it can't even be questioned, it has become an idol.

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Edward, I am nominating this post for "POST OF THE DECADE"!

You have hit the nail on the head, brother. Christianity as a whole has man our "rules", our "standards", our own thinking to be our god. We've completely forgotten most of the time that GOD looks on the heart.

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I love this!!!


(this is posted while on the beach in my speedos LOL)

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ROFL! Yep, iPhones are the bomb. Glad to hear your are somewhere where it isn't cold and raining.

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Rules are conducive to good order. Every group of people be it the church or the fish and game club will have rules.

We err when we elevate some rules to the status of "word of God". And then enforce those rules to the hurt and possibly spiritual death of people.


Murder is subjective, there are a few churches and pastors in the movement that have murdered and mutilated a persons chance at eternity because they/he felt that they had to line those people up.

When Jesus just wanted to make them fell loved, safe and cared for.

Like in everything, we need to have and exercise wisdom.

It is sad that that particular commodity seems in such short supply.

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This is true.

I know a preacher who says that when he gets new people, he spends the next few months preaching just as hard and rough as he can. If they're still there after that, he knows their hearts are right.

:nah

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I think it to be sad when critical thinking is thrown out, because we have always believed this to be true, we like the traditional culture therefore any other evaluation or critical thinking regarding a previously held position is automatically refuted.

For example the traditional OP understanding and interpretation of Deut. 22:5. To question it, is now akin to Apostacy and automatically to be put under question.

SO SAD!

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It is sad.

That's why I'm happy not being where things are sad.

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Saddest of all sad........and how many times true.

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Yep, that is sad, very sad.

There was this guy, used to advertise his church in Bro. Tingle's newspaper 20 or so years ago, can't remember his name or his church, but his picture was him holding an open bible, with his finger pointing over it and with a stern frowning expression on his face like he was fixing to tear you up.

Beneath the photo "Please Visit Our Church"

Use to crack me up every time I saw it. I could tell he had some rules...

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It's sad that you guys are sad. ;)

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Him?

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/rks.jpg

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I am very happy Timmy:nutso

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I am actually pretty happy, wrapping up a manual at work... going home to meatloaf in an hour or so. 4 day weekend coming up. It is fall and the leaves are turning.

God is still good.

Happy!

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Nah RKS would have to work hard to attain this guy's level. not even close. I don't know Bro Smith but he seems like a good guy. The other guy probab;y is to.

It is sad we don't have better marketing skills

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I love Meatloaf! Did you see him in that Monk episode recently?

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:thumbsup

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I'm happy. It's Happy Hour at Sonic, and I'm going to run get a cherry coke! :D

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Meatloaf was on Ghost Hunters the other day also Timmy think he is making a come back?

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Totslly lost me on that one....

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And he was in a commercial, too.

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I hope your kidding, but if not, immodesty is nothing to brag about.

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Just an amateur Christian here (with God's merciful acknowledgement), but if this is a call to arms on keeping truth..truth, I'm here for role call sir! :)

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This the sadest thread I've ever read.

Thanks Ed.

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Meatloaf.....the singer.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIuotFZnBtk

http://content.etilize.com/Large/11963812.jpg

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It's sad that we rarely hear any preaching about Jesus.

Most preaching has become issue based.

It's either about grace or legalism with no regard for the person of Jesus, at all.

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I heard once that he actually starred in some goofy movie about a sweet transvestite from transsexual-Transylvania.