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TJJJ 10-14-2009 10:51 AM

That'll Teach the Birthers!
 
Federal judge in Ga. sanctions 'birther' attorney
October 14th, 2009 @ 9:51am

COLUMBUS, Ga. (AP) - A federal judge in Georgia has fined a leader of the movement that claims President Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and isn't eligible to be president.

U.S. District Judge Clay D. Land's scathing 43-page order says California lawyer and dentist Orly Taitz is attempting to misuse the federal courts to press "wild accusations."

Taitz is a leader of the so-called birther movement and sued on behalf of a soldier who claimed she shouldn't have to deploy to Iraq because Obama wasn't born in the U.S. Documents show he was born in Hawaii.

Land, appointed in 2001 by President George W. Bush, says he fined Taitz $20,000 "as a deterrent to prevent future misconduct and to protect the integrity of the court."

Taitz tells The Fulton County Daily Report the order is "an absolute outrage."







Sure looks like censureship to me by the Feds!

simplyme 10-14-2009 12:46 PM

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Hey now, whatever happened to our RIGHTs??

Freedom of Speech, and so on? :foottap

CENSORSHIP is putting it mildly. I am sooo mad!

Baron1710 10-14-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 816757)
Federal judge in Ga. sanctions 'birther' attorney
October 14th, 2009 @ 9:51am

COLUMBUS, Ga. (AP) - A federal judge in Georgia has fined a leader of the movement that claims President Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and isn't eligible to be president.

U.S. District Judge Clay D. Land's scathing 43-page order says California lawyer and dentist Orly Taitz is attempting to misuse the federal courts to press "wild accusations."

Taitz is a leader of the so-called birther movement and sued on behalf of a soldier who claimed she shouldn't have to deploy to Iraq because Obama wasn't born in the U.S. Documents show he was born in Hawaii.

Land, appointed in 2001 by President George W. Bush, says he fined Taitz $20,000 "as a deterrent to prevent future misconduct and to protect the integrity of the court."

Taitz tells The Fulton County Daily Report the order is "an absolute outrage."







Sure looks like censureship to me by the Feds!

Censorship would be telling him he can't say it. He is being told DON'T file another suit in federal court. Right or wrong they have dismissed his case, he needs to move on to another venue if he wants to be heard.

No one is provided a forum in the courts for free speech, that's not the purpose of the court.

n david 10-14-2009 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 816757)
Land, appointed in 2001 by President George W. Bush, says he fined Taitz $20,000 "as a deterrent to prevent future misconduct and to protect the integrity of the court."

1) Love how they included the bit about the judge being appointed by GWB.
2) The reason being "to prevent future misconduct and to protect the integrity of the court," now that's funny. There is no integrity in the court these days.

coadie 10-14-2009 05:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 816902)
Censorship would be telling him he can't say it. He is being told DON'T file another suit in federal court. Right or wrong they have dismissed his case, he needs to move on to another venue if he wants to be heard.

No one is provided a forum in the courts for free speech, that's not the purpose of the court.

Orly is a she and is Jewish.
The judge is being racist and sexist.:foottap

Baron1710 10-14-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 816964)
Orly is a she and is Jewish.
The judge is being racist and sexist.:foottap

huh? I don't care if she is male or female my statement still stands and how is the judge racist and sexist?

Jermyn Davidson 10-16-2009 08:03 PM

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The day I heard about this is the day the lights turned on in Georgia!

TJJJ 10-16-2009 09:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 817830)
The day I heard about this is the day the lights turned on in Georgia!

So what you are saying is that you are doubting Obama's ability to be president because you are now a birther?

:ursofunny

pelathais 10-17-2009 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 816902)
Censorship would be telling him he can't say it. He is being told DON'T file another suit in federal court. Right or wrong they have dismissed his case, he needs to move on to another venue if he wants to be heard.

No one is provided a forum in the courts for free speech, that's not the purpose of the court.

You are correct. The infamous Fred Phelps filed so many frivilous lawsuits that he was fined, disbarred, jailed and then finally banished from ever filing in that particular court.

He certainly seems to still enjoy his right to free speech still to this day.

And the "birthers" are wacky. There was a birth annoucement in the Honolulu newspaper for Obama. They ceertainly had no interests in promoting the guy one way or the other almost 50 years ago. He was born there. He's one of us.

... Just like Jane Fonda, Bill Ayers, Roger B. Taney, John Wayne Gacy and all the rest.

Kae 10-17-2009 10:06 PM

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Here is an interesting old article having to do with his place of birth.

http://web.archive.org/web/200406271...ws26060403.htm

Jason B 10-17-2009 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kae (Post 818143)
Here is an interesting old article having to do with his place of birth.

http://web.archive.org/web/200406271...ws26060403.htm

interesting:thumbsup

Esther 10-18-2009 06:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kae (Post 818143)
Here is an interesting old article having to do with his place of birth.

http://web.archive.org/web/200406271...ws26060403.htm

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate
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Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations


Seems Illinois knows. :thumbsup

oletime 10-18-2009 06:34 AM

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everybody knows that wants to know, the rest just stick thier heads in the sand, including the judges, in other words, dont rock the boat ! like president fords "its best for the country" mantra. of course if arnold from cali. wants to run for pres. all he double hockey sticks will break out amongst the left wingers and media apologists.

DerechHashem 10-18-2009 09:27 AM

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Who runs this country? The People?

oletime 10-18-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DerechHashem (Post 818215)
Who runs this country? The People?

barely

DerechHashem 10-18-2009 04:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kae (Post 818143)
Here is an interesting old article having to do with his place of birth.

http://web.archive.org/web/200406271...ws26060403.htm

Yes but it proves nothing. It's just one Journalist's words.

DerechHashem 10-18-2009 04:13 PM

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Regardless of the Courts, the Birthers, the Lawyers, etc. This could be all put away if President Obama would just release all personal information in an effort to show his transparency and to stop spending millions of dollars in Tax Payer Monies Supporting Lawyers and Court fees to keep suppressing his personal documents. Suppessing personal documents as President does paint a questionable picture.

noeticknight 10-18-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 818088)
... Just like Jane Fonda, Bill Ayers, Roger B. Taney, John Wayne Gacy and all the rest.

Oh man...i can't stand clowns! Especially that one!:covereyes

DerechHashem 10-18-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by noeticknight (Post 818376)
Oh man...i can't stand clowns! Especially that one!:covereyes

Funny

Kae 10-19-2009 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by oletime (Post 818320)
barely

Only because most do not have the knowledge of our constitution and how a republican government should work. If more did we would operate differently.

HeavenlyOne 10-19-2009 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by noeticknight (Post 818376)
Oh man...i can't stand clowns! Especially that one!:covereyes

He's the reason why I can't stand clowns!!

Nitehawk013 10-19-2009 06:45 AM

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The peopel quit runing the country when it got too big to really feel like we had any true power in the government. The country is so large now that most people really feel like they are powerless no matter what they do. Instead, our elected "monarchs" rule over us and too many of us just trust them to make good decisions. They don't!

We expect them to represent us, but they only represent themselves and their pet causes. And so many people are convinced that there is nothign we can do that they sit and do nothign but cast a vote every four years. Until the populace gets motivated and active, the Fed will rule over us as kings and queens.

coadie 10-19-2009 06:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DerechHashem (Post 818354)
Regardless of the Courts, the Birthers, the Lawyers, etc. This could be all put away if President Obama would just release all personal information in an effort to show his transparency and to stop spending millions of dollars in Tax Payer Monies Supporting Lawyers and Court fees to keep suppressing his personal documents. Suppessing personal documents as President does paint a questionable picture.

OK
Explain why he has hit nearly a million dollars in legal fees to interfere with providing The original documents?

Nitehawk013 10-19-2009 06:50 AM

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I know I know. It's because Obama is a fascist through and through and he has to hid eit. He is a smart man. He is a fascist who has used socialism and class warfare as a vehicle to gain power, just like that infamous fascist in Germany in the early 1900's did.

HeavenlyOne 10-19-2009 07:31 AM

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I'm more concerned with where he's taking this country than if he's qualified to run it because of his birthplace.

Kae 10-19-2009 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013 (Post 818497)
The peopel quit runing the country when it got too big to really feel like we had any true power in the government. The country is so large now that most people really feel like they are powerless no matter what they do. Instead, our elected "monarchs" rule over us and too many of us just trust them to make good decisions. They don't!

We expect them to represent us, but they only represent themselves and their pet causes. And so many people are convinced that there is nothign we can do that they sit and do nothign but cast a vote every four years. Until the populace gets motivated and active, the Fed will rule over us as kings and queens.

The republic was set up so that no matter how big the country got it would still be an ideal government. According to John Adams "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." We have a duty to elect Godly people into office and when we do not this is exactly what the founding fathers said would happen. You can not separate the moral character from the man.

The federal government had limited power and states had most of the power. After the 10th amendment most of the following amendments enlarged federal government. We only pay attention to the presidential race. What about the mayor, the chairmen, the governor and so on... The local races are important and where real change will come from.

simplyme 10-19-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 818510)
I'm more concerned with where he's taking this country than if he's qualified to run it because of his birthplace.

Yeah, its a little too late to shut the gate now that the horses got out, lol

UNLESS this movement would lead to an impeachment (ideal), it is futile to
continue asking for absolute proof that has been quashed since waay long
before the election.

I have long been perplexed how he seemingly came out of 'nowhere' to
take the highest leadership position so quickly!! It is not wrong for anyone
to want to know the particulars of his life & career pertinent to his qualifications, though.,
THAT is what makes 'birthers' even myself, so wary.
In other words, "if there's nothing to hide, WHY NOT make it
all readily available for those whom elected him, to peruse?

DerechHashem 10-19-2009 08:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 818499)
OK
Explain why he has hit nearly a million dollars in legal fees to interfere with providing The original documents?

You tell me why, if you could. If he were to only show the long form, they questions would stop.

I cant figure out why someone would spend a million tax dollars to keep it buried.

Unless he likes spending taxes dollars friviously.

Or it may show something he does not public.

You guess would be as good as mine.

:foottap

DerechHashem 10-19-2009 08:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by simplyme (Post 818945)
Yeah, its a little too late to shut the gate now that the horses got out, lol

UNLESS this movement would lead to an impeachment (ideal), it is futile to
continue asking for absolute proof that has been quashed since waay long
before the election.

I have long been perplexed how he seemingly came out of 'nowhere' to
take the highest leadership position so quickly!! It is not wrong for anyone
to want to know the particulars of his life & career pertinent to his qualifications, though.,
THAT is what makes 'birthers' even myself, so wary.
In other words, "if there's nothing to hide, WHY NOT make it
all readily available for those whom elected him, to peruse?

Something is amiss somewhere, and I wonder why judges are being so difficult.:thumbsup

Jermyn Davidson 10-20-2009 08:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 817858)
So what you are saying is that you are doubting Obama's ability to be president because you are now a birther?

:ursofunny



No.

Again, another attempt by me to be clever misunderstood.

There's an old country song about injustice in Georgia titled, "The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia."


The lights are now back on because a judge sees the frivolity and useless political grandstanding of these silly accusations.

If I were the President, I wouldn't do anything more to prove anything to the idiots that won't let it go.

simplyme 10-20-2009 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 819387)
No.

Again, another attempt by me to be clever misunderstood.

There's an old country song about injustice in Georgia titled, "The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia."


The lights are now back on because a judge sees the frivolity and useless political grandstanding of these silly accusations.

If I were the President, I wouldn't do anything more to prove anything to the idiots that won't let it go.

GLAD you ain't the Pres!!

Sorry but last time I checked, the definition of "idiot" does not
include the proclivity to insist upon FULL DISCLOSURE., you know -
TRUTH?
JESUS is a strict proponent of speaking TRUTH and those of us whom know
and love JESUS, are compelled to seek TRUTH in everything in honor to Him.

Jermyn Davidson 10-20-2009 08:31 PM

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Can we name any other President that has had to publicly display their own birth certificate to appease a fringe lunatic mass of idiots bent on discrediting him?

Jermyn Davidson 10-20-2009 08:32 PM

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Let it go.


I am out of here.

Bowas 10-20-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 819390)
Can we name any other President that has had to publicly display their own birth certificate to appease a fringe lunatic mass of idiots bent on discrediting him?

Well probably, no. Reason being is all previous presidents were known by the community form the day they were born. They had school teachers and fellow students that could legitimately vouch for them. There was no question as to where they was born (Kenya?) or where they went to school (Indonesia?) as there parents were of sufficient American lineage to whereas there wss no question. It does seem very very possible Obama did recieve a foriegn student scholarship is why he refuse to show his college documents. As to wheather he is Hawiian born or not, I do not know, but all this refusal to show college documents gives many no reason but to have some lingering questions. If he did get those scholarships, he may have defrauded the donars if he is Hawiian born, If he is not Hawiian born, he has defrauded America and the constitution. I really wish he would just release it (as he is a public servant) and put it all behind us so we can move on in focusing on keeping our liberties and freedoms.

simplyme 10-21-2009 08:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 819400)
Well probably, no. Reason being is all previous presidents were known by the community form the day they were born. They had school teachers and fellow students that could legitimately vouch for them. There was no question as to where they was born (Kenya?) or where they went to school (Indonesia?) as there parents were of sufficient American lineage to whereas there wss no question. It does seem very very possible Obama did recieve a foriegn student scholarship is why he refuse to show his college documents. As to wheather he is Hawiian born or not, I do not know, but all this refusal to show college documents gives many no reason but to have some lingering questions. If he did get those scholarships, he may have defrauded the donars if he is Hawiian born, If he is not Hawiian born, he has defrauded America and the constitution. I really wish he would just release it (as he is a public servant) and put it all behind us so we can move on in focusing on keeping our liberties and freedoms.

THANK YOU BOWAS, for being another voice of reason, truth and justice.

All points made are FACT..a word not often associated with lunatics or idiots.
Another fact is that if it were either you or me, with such questionable
circumstantial qualifications, we would NOT be remotely allowed to imagine
attaining candidacy much less inauguration, into the highest office in
governing this great country! Is it so much to ask that a President be,
without ANY doubt, an true blue, born in AMERICA,
AMERICAN? :foottap

Twisp 10-21-2009 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 819400)
Well probably, no. Reason being is all previous presidents were known by the community form the day they were born. They had school teachers and fellow students that could legitimately vouch for them. There was no question as to where they was born (Kenya?) or where they went to school (Indonesia?) as there parents were of sufficient American lineage to whereas there wss no question. It does seem very very possible Obama did recieve a foriegn student scholarship is why he refuse to show his college documents. As to wheather he is Hawiian born or not, I do not know, but all this refusal to show college documents gives many no reason but to have some lingering questions. If he did get those scholarships, he may have defrauded the donars if he is Hawiian born, If he is not Hawiian born, he has defrauded America and the constitution. I really wish he would just release it (as he is a public servant) and put it all behind us so we can move on in focusing on keeping our liberties and freedoms.

He has given it to the FEC, he has released it to the public, the State of Hawaii has confirmed it. Besides personally handing it to each individual person in the United States, he has done all to satisfy a reasonable mind.

Twisp 10-21-2009 09:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by simplyme (Post 819481)
THANK YOU BOWAS, for being another voice of reason, truth and justice.

All points made are FACT..a word not often associated with lunatics or idiots.
Another fact is that if it were either you or me, with such questionable
circumstantial qualifications, we would NOT be remotely allowed to imagine
attaining candidacy much less inauguration, into the highest office in
governing this great country! Is it so much to ask that a President be,
without ANY doubt, an true blue, born in AMERICA,
AMERICAN? :foottap

The majority of the country, along with the State of Hawaii and the FEC have no questions about his American citizenship. He has proven it and it has been accepted. If a small minority will not take his state of Hawaii certified birth certificate as evidence, I'd say there is nothing they would accept. There are larger issues at play besides this smoke screen for the conservative party.

coadie 10-21-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 819495)
The majority of the country, along with the State of Hawaii and the FEC have no questions about his American citizenship. He has proven it and it has been accepted. If a small minority will not take his state of Hawaii certified birth certificate as evidence, I'd say there is nothing they would accept. There are larger issues at play besides this smoke screen for the conservative party.

Can you explain why he lied?

Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital—in Honolulu,

He first said Queens hospital on his web site last fall and by summer it was the other hospital. which Birth certiface did he show?

This case is a smoke screen for the extreme left.

We all know Obama lied about which hospital. This lie has never been resolved. Take a look at the lie he posted

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...&pageId=103306

Did he tell the FEC he was swapping hospitals?:sad

United Press International report from Nov. 4 states:

“Obama described his birth at Queen’s Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza Province in Kenya, as an ‘all-America’ story transcending orthodox racial stereotypes and experience.”

http://earlytoday.wordpress.com/2009...an-1-hospital/

William Addams Reitwiesner, genealogist at the Library of Congress, first listed the birth location at Queen’s.





So take a look at the shifty work of Obama. When people make up stories and they don't match, we ask for more info.

I would spend a million dollars to hide it also if I was him. It took snopes 90 minutes to change their web site when this came out. We have confirmed lying going on.

Twisp 10-21-2009 09:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 819498)
Can you explain why he lied?

Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital—in Honolulu,

He first said Queens hospital on his web site last fall and by summer it was the other hospital. which Birth certiface did he show?

This case is a smoke screen for the extreme left.

We all know Obama lied about which hospital. This lie has never been resolved. Take a look at the lie he posted

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...&pageId=103306

Did he tell the FEC he was swapping hospitals?:sad

United Press International report from Nov. 4 states:

“Obama described his birth at Queen’s Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza Province in Kenya, as an ‘all-America’ story transcending orthodox racial stereotypes and experience.”

http://earlytoday.wordpress.com/2009...an-1-hospital/

William Addams Reitwiesner, genealogist at the Library of Congress, first listed the birth location at Queen’s.





So take a look at the shifty work of Obama. When people make up stories and they don't match, we ask for more info.

I would spend a million dollars to hide it also if I was him. It took snopes 90 minutes to change their web site when this came out. We have confirmed lying going on.

lol, what's the matter, pelathias blasted you on the evolution thread so you come back to the political forum?

A simple misspoken phrase on his part in regards to the hospital. It has happened to you and it has happened to me before, I am sure. If that is what you are basing your argument on, you are easily disregarded.

You have no idea how much or how little money he has spent on these frivolous lawsuits by the birthers.

coadie 10-21-2009 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 819491)
He has given it to the FEC, he has released it to the public, the State of Hawaii has confirmed it. Besides personally handing it to each individual person in the United States, he has done all to satisfy a reasonable mind.

Your statement is false. Obama didn't release it to the public. He recirculated a photoshopped version from one of his sockpuppet sites.

It came also with a second revision. Both were were generated summer 2008This is why the left repeats some falsehoods so often they hope they will become accepted as facts.

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