A question for the Holiness Apostolics.....
 

To the Holiness Apostolic that keep standards, dress codes, separation rules, obeying Pastors rules etc, etc....................

Anyway, you know who you are.

Are the Non-holiness Apostolic brethren that were shorts, haircut make up wearing ladies....etc that believe one God Jesus Name baptism, Acts2;38 believers..........well...

Are we your Bretheren??????:friend

Why Cooper?

Coop, it's too bad you have to ask...

Because he's coop :winkgrin

Seems like he's still grinding the same old axe like on another forum.
Sad.
Some need to just get a life and get on with it.
NI

Well, I found this intersting...I just visited the website of the Collingsworth family. They are Bible Methodists and in appearance look just like those who adhere...more so in some respects.

Anyway, on their Guestbook someone (Methodist) had recently posted this...

"...we appreciate you honoring the Lord by sticking to our conservative standards..."

Interesting...:tiphat

Hmmm...

It really only matters what Daddy says. Everyone else will have to die to prove their answer. :tiphat

Should men wear shorts? NO.
Should women cut their hair? NO.
Should women wear makeup? NO. (The Bible does have a place for it, but it is only during a time of mourning. Otherwise it is for the harlots.)

Do I love those who reject holiness standards per se? YES.

Will I fellowship them as in eating and visiting with them? YES.
Will I fellowship them for preaching? NO.

Do I consider them to be saved or lost? That's God's decision. My job is to reach all who will not accept the Bible and live according to holiness.

It does say to be ye holy for I am holy. If someone rejects this and refuses to live holy, will they be lost COOPER?
What say you?

So you're regulating that to mere dress?

It's soooooo much more than that.

But neocons will never get it. They just see the word "holy" and automatically assume it's meaning or speaking of outward dress. (And we all know what assuming does, don't we CS.)

:grampa

So you consider standards a Heaven or Hell issue- There is a seperate thread for that.

Maybe that inspired THIS thread...

NI is not CS :ignore

I know that, that's why I included "CS." If it was meant for NI, I wouldn't have needed to put the initials there.

:tiphat

Here we go again. This is so stale and boring dude.

I thought the poll was for traditional 'holiness' standards keepers to answer.

At least four of the six who voted so far aren't in that group. It skews the poll results if everyone answered.....cause of course those who don't follow those standards will answer 'yes'.

Funny that that's all you saw in the post.
God said to be holy, not me.
It isn't all about dress as I have stated elsewhere, but dress is certainly an extension of it.
Incidentally, God said to BE holy. Sounds like an order to me.
But, then again the liberals are all against someone telling them to do something that they "feel" isn't right. It isn't about what someone feels, but about what the Bible says.
Is that clear enough?
NI

BTW: who is CS?

In order to be right in God’s eyes, I feel that we are required to assemble ourselves with a group of like minded believers, by not forsaking the assembling of ourselves in the house of the Lord. Sitting under the direction and leadership of a man called and anointed by God. We need to be fed by the word and without doing this, you will die a spiritual death. If you are not doing this, you are completely out of the will of God and you will be lost.

Am I your brother?????

:friend

Are you saying this to a brother????:friend

Why would Coop even want to be my brother?

LOL!

I understand why you say that, but it's not him. One thing about Bill, he doesn't hide who he really is.

NO

The wheels on the short bus go round and round...round and round...round and round...

It goes no where FAST!


http://radio.weblogs.com/0105910/ima...are_wheels.jpg

I was thinking more on the lines of....

http://www.opt-osfns.org/opt/images/veh_title.gif

You know, the SHORT bus...?

...funny thing...ya know...about brothers. Sometimes only one of the two believes that water is thicker than blood.

I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Wait a minute....

Thinking,.....blood....thicker....water....hmmm

That's all I saw in your post? That's all that was in your post! The first post above is entirely dress-related.

"Be ye holy as I am holy." Have you read the verse and applied it in context? Or do you often take scriptures and misapply them by removing them from their context?

Here's the context in which that scripture fits:

13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

Where is there anything written about dress?

I bet you'll point to verse 14: " . . .not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:"

However, that scripture isn't speaking of dress at all. It's speaking about conforming to the former life you once lived before coming to God.

Again, there is nothing in that scripture about outward dress.

In fact . . . it's interesting to see (in context) the verse preceeding.

"But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy."

Conversation...not outward dress is the subject of this scripture.

Yes, that is why I can be so forward.
:friend

I believe in Holiness.....just not what somw would label "Holiness".
Having said that...since you will find very few that all agree on outward "holiness"...the true test of an Apostolic brother in Acts 2:38.

IF you are a One God , might God in Christ, Jesus Name baptized, Holy Ghost filled Child of God YOU ARE MY BRETHREN! PERIOD!

Cut, Hair, Pants wearing, makeup wearing and all!

OK...Im gonna go now before Epely sees this...:aaa

lol

Conversation, in this instance, can refer to much more than verbal speaking.

I believe conversation here means how you live, your behavior.

As in "Actions speak louder then words"

Absolutely. And that encompasses much more than vocalization. In fact, we all know vocalization is the least of ways to truly express Christianity.

Not me. Don't need to hide behind a persona. No hidden screen names anymore either.

Yeah, and would be leading all to believe I had flip-flopped again, huh?






Not!

BTW, I finally got up the nerve to answer this thread...


NO