Favorite American Idol Performances
 

Since I'm being hated on so much for liking Adam Lambert when he was on AI, to the point I've been accused having no spiritual discernment and the spirituality of people in the church I pastor has been questioned, I thought I'd post my favorite AI performances.

"Ain't No Sunshine" by Christian Christian

"Moody's Mood For Love" by Elliot Yamin

"Trouble" by Elliot Yamin

"Imagine" by David Archueta

"Pretty Young Thing" by Danny Gokey

"September" by Danny Gokey

"Satisfaction" by Adam Lambert

"If I Can't Have You" by Adam Lambert

"Play That Funky Music" by Adam Lambert

"Mad World" by Adam Lambert

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Chris Daughtry - I walk the line

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJXwm150umQ

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While I was never on the Daughtry bandwagon, he sure has handled his career the right way and he's been smart about his music, which is more than can be said for several that, in my opinion, are much better singers. When Elliot Yamin was on, he was my all-time favorite to that point. But he's gone nowhere since. Daughtery, on the other hand, is huge.

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Lyrics to Imagine.... dont know why anyone who loves Jesus likes this song...


Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

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Come on, Ferd. He only sang the third verse. And actually, if you try to understand what John Lennon was saying and where he was coming from, it makes sense. He was very angry with religion, which was fighting each other over small issues while the real needs of the world weren't being met.

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I think I will stick with reading the words and understanding exactly what Lennon meant.

I seriously doubt anyone on AI has a clue. These arent the sharpest knives in the jar....

that is no excuse for you. you should know better.

and it doesent make any sense at all. John Lennon was a godless communist. you are identifying with that.

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I agree!

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John Lennon may have been an outsider, and sometimes the outsider see's the duck for what it is!

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And I believe that if we, as the church, don't try to understand why people such as Lennon turned their heart so hard against religion, that we're making a mistake. I don't agree with or justify his lifestyle. But if I can understand why he was where he was, I just might be able to prevent more like him, and as well, reach those that are in his "neck of the woods." And our church has been instrumental in the salvation of many that were formerly "anti-God", "anti-religion", "Christian-haters."

When I read the words of Lennon, my heart breaks for him and others that are in his shoes. I feel like many areas of religion failed him and I think we all have to look in the mirror and see where "we", as the ecumenical church, went wrong. "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

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How do YOU (NOW) become "all things to all men that you might by ALL means win some?" What lessons have you learned?

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I agree..

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I know that I have learned while talking to so many professional folks, that modern religion does not wear a robe of white. They wear a cloak of conflicting messages. Which causes so many to not turn away, but to never look back once they see the product the church is putting forth.

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I wonder how many hippie's walked into churches in the 60's & 70's, and were met with love and acceptance.

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That is absolutely the truth and that's why I think we should take very seriously what he said. These guys had and still have major influence over a major part of the culture we claim to be trying to reach. If we can't understand them, we don't have a chance.

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Wow. Big question. There have been times when I looked in the spiritual mirror and realized what I really was as a religious person that I could only sob. I saw where Cindy said, "How many hippies walked into a church in the 60's & 70's and found acceptance?"

Chuck Smith, who founded the "Jesus movement" on the beaches of Southern California, made major efforts to get the "hippies" into his church. And they started flooding the building. But the board of his church demanded that Smith start requiring the "hippies" to wear, at least, sandals (they all were barefoot) because the natural oils of their feet were ruining the carpet.

THAT'S the kind of thing I've learned the most. If you're willing to read many long writings I could tell you much more. In every lesson, it always ended with being greatly humbled when I realized how self-righteous I had been.

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I'm willing to read long writings. Why don't you start a series over in the blog cafe?

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Fantasizing about a godless society is a good thing Neck?


Really?

John Lennon was a perverted hedonistic self serving, God hating purveyor of sin in all its many forms.

And this song, above all others was his anthem.


And this is your answer?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU????

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Ferd, you're missing the point....how would you try to win someone like Lennon to Christ? We can rant and rave about the "antiChristness" of the song but is there something we can take from the song to try to win others.

I don't like the words of the song either. But I do like the intent of the song.......a world where we all get along. I know it won't happen until Christ returns but we can at least show folks who think like this that God is not the author of all the strife in the world that parades itself as religion. God is good.

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Well my friend, you make an assumption that I am part of something that you are a part of.

that isnt the case. You connect yourself to the mainstream christian faith.

I do not. I see that as dead religion and always have.

I am not part of that.

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Johnny Godair (from what I recall was one...)

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Ferd, I was really hoping you would overlook those things and dive into the meat of the post.

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sorry Mizpeh, I am not ever going to fall into the trap that the baptist are dead and so I need to figure that out.

that aint my problem.


the fewer baptist there are, the better chance I have at winning people to the Lord.

I am not afraid of a decline in mainstream Christianity.

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I don't see him that way. I see him as one of the "sick" who needed a physician (Matthew 9:12). I see him as one of those who Christ spilled blood for.

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Actually, that's not true. If you saw our church website, you'd quickly see that. And I'll guarantee you that our greatest opposition has come from "Mainstream Christian Faith." We've done several city-wide direct mailers. Each time, our office is inundated with angry calls from the "Mainstream Christian Faith."

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I thought the meaty part of his post was how to win those with an anti religion attitude which was caused by hypocritical religious folks. I ignored the part about "ecumenicalism". (but it's nice to think that NOW includes us in the body of Christ (the church) even if we can't reciprocate the magnanimousity.)

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Hmmm.....maybe so. I'm writing a book so maybe I could post it in pieces there. It wouldn't go over very well, though.

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:lolWhy is everyone not like you, a Baptist? That's funny. But there are many Baptists that are very effective in ministry. I'm sure you'll disagree.

And I think it's the exclusivity of many in religious circles that hurts the cause of Christ the most.

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You can't please everyone.

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My pastor was a redneck hippie type when he came to Christ.

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:thumbsup

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What are they angry about if you believe the same doctrines as they do?

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Ummm......I could PM you some of the stuff.

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I totally agree with you, it does not however take away from his personal experiences and what he wrote about. Religion as a whole has been it's own worst enemy.

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Exactly! My pastors entire sermon on Sunday was on that very thought, every person that you encounter throughout your day; every person that cuts you off in traffic, every cranky clerk in the check-out line, every scary thug hanging out in front of the mall... every one of them is someone that Jesus thought dying for was worth it.

It's an almost impossible concept for us to grasp, we get so excited about the people who come to a church service wanting to hear about God, or who are willing to be ministered to in some way. But we have a much harder time giving grace and compassion to those who hate us or revile God. But He thought enough of them to die for them. What chance do we have of ever reaching them if we "hate" them back?

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Well said. Bill Hybels often says, "You've never looked into the eyes of a person that God doesn't care about." And another quote from him, "People matter to God, therefore, they should matter to us."

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The thought that gets to me the most is an eternal hell. Let the angels who left their first estate go there. They knew what they were doing but most people are ignorant and deceived. God has compassion on them, shouldn't we?