Talmadge French Heads Home to the UPC
 

An excerpt from a letter that was emailed to me.

Brother Talmadge French met the NC District Board asking to be received back into the UPCI.. After hearing his request and discussing his situation with him, Bro. French was unanimously received back into fellowship in the UPCI as an ordained minister.

Bro. French realizes now that he did not fully understand what kind of organization the WWPF would be or the direction it would take and wishes to blame no one else for his error in judgment. Things are clearer now and he realizes his mistake and desired to correct it as soon as possible.

Bro French has resigned all positions with the WWPF and has no further obligations with them. He is committed to following the UPCI Manual guidelines whenever ministering outside the UPCI. Because of his excellent research and the book he wrote entitled, “Our God Is One”, he has been able to declare the “Oneness” message in many places outside of our organization.

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:thumbsup

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That's a blow to the WWPF, IMO

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"what kind of organization the WWPF would be or the direction it would take"

I thought it wa an apostolic org?

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What does this mean "he did not fully understand what kind of organization the WWPF would be or the direction it would take"?

What kind of direction is the WPF taking that was not part of their original intentions?

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Very interesting. Is there a leak in the WPF boat? Good for Bro French! I don't know about you but I think the doctor has just lost a big part of his kingdom. Wasn't he over the college?

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I think most of us thought it would be a fellowship not a full fledged organization...However I have friends in both camps and hate to send friends divided. I pray for God to unite His earthly body everyday. I personaly want to be friends with anyone that wants to be my friends....cards have never mattered to me...but I SO WELL know it does to some people.

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It appears that the good Bro. French found out that the spin didn't match the reality! The pitch didn't match the product! He could have also figured out that being blocked from ministering in UPCI churches was not a financially desired consequence.

Either way, it's great that he was enlightened! :)

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Seems like I heard someone say, the Apostolic movement is in trouble.

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Praying for the body as a whole........we have got to be united, card carrier or not!

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You're cute, bro!!! lol:ursofunny:ursofunny

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Many are jumping ship it seems. Even key leaders at the "large" WPF church, from what I've heard. Friend told me that some are going back to the 'Mothership' and others aren't sure of Apostolic doctrine at all.

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Interesting.

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Jesus prayed for the Body.
His prayer is recorded in John 17.
He prayed for "us" (all who are or have ever been or ever will be a part of that body)
He prayed for:
1 Salvation verses 2-5
2 Revelation verses 6-8
3 Preservation verses 9-12
4 Jubilation verse 13
5 Sanctification/Separation verses 14-19
6 Evangelization verse 20
7 Unification verses 21-23
8 Affection (love) verses 23, 26
9 Glorification verses 22-24

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These kind of emails will abound, and while they may contain some truth, (the fact that he has rejoined the UPCI) they also contain much conjecture at best (or lies at worst) on the part of the writer which IMHO is mixed with the truth to create a much more negative report. (see bolded portion)

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Wasn't French at Johnny Godair's? Did he leave his church or did Johnny Godair finally quit his WPF day job?

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He has left Bro. Godair's church and is now working out of Bro. Huntley's from what I understand.

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Whatever ship he rides he is a good man...

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I know how you meant that, Sis. Alvear, but there really is only one ship and all of us who have Jesus within are in that one ship whether we are in an organization or not.

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Politics and poker......




It's all the same!


The game is all about politics and who can be better than who.


It all stinks.

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Yep, it sure does. If men would stop beating their chests long enough to embrace those around them.

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any word on the college?

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I think it was at Brother Holme's I heard him preach...WOW...wish I had the knowledge he does...

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He was one of my teachers at Bible College. I didn't enjoy his classes. If a student tried to discuss anything that wasn't in his world view he would bully them and pile drive them semantically right in front of the class. I wasn't at all suprised when he went WPF.

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It's like a tree falling in the forest.

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What do you mean? Like... if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it matter?

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Ah! The storied rivalry between Godair and Huntley continue. Just like the old days when they were politicking against each other for the DS position. Seems Wayne has one upped Johnny again.

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Okay I'll broach the elephant in the room- How much of French's decision was economically motivated?

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Glad the UPCI is able to be big enough to accept people back... I think that's a little like Jesus would do :-)
Very sad the WPF started like it did... their whole basis was flawed for leaving and in time, those foundations will not transcend. Just my humble opinion and knowledge of having friends on both sides.
Great thing: You don't have to be either to go to heaven: Just have to be like Jesus... I'm trying hard!

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Bumpinski

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Dumb question, dumb answer. UPCI is paying $100.00 ahead to come home.:ursofunny

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That's a false accusation unless you have something to back it up. Your question is worded so as to suggest at least some of it was financially motivated. So what's your evidence?

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You mean, like, will he sell more books in the UPCI or WPF?

Or is someone paying him off....?

Or what exactly are you meaning?

I have not know the UPCI to part with much money, no matter who you were.

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In general, is the honorarium higher in a UPC camp meeting or conference, than in a WPF camp meeting or conference? Is he more likely to have his writings in a UPC catalog or WPF catalog? Are there more UPC camp meetings or conferences than WPF camp meetings or conferences? Does he have a better chance at a political position with perks in the UPC or in the WPF?

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That's not a false accusation. On a bit of a high horse there Prax? People make decisions everyday based on what is best for them financially. I am sure preachers are immune from that though.

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so is this going to descend into the gutter like a few months ago, when another blood letting took place until the minster died tragically? who cares about the why's. and the speculation. why dont admin. just close the thread now. doesnt this qualify as speaking insults about someone etc etc.?

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I left UPCI for several years then decided to come home again. I wasn't affected financially either way. Just felt this is where God would have me be. I still love the people in the other organization and fellowship with them from time to time.

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What? Are you actually blaming this forum for that? You must be joking. :foottap

And what blood letting are you talking about? Is there some scandal being discussed? The man is simply returning to the UPCI--that's not exactly controversial. :rolleyes2

Last I checked, politica...I mean, organizational affiliations and related changes were public knowledge (for good reason).

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im not joking the insults hve already started with this brother being called a money seeker etc etc.,apparently it is controversial to some with all the speculation, read it all not just parts and yes i can blame this forum for increasing someones burden, you never know what someone is dealing with. people insult groups and people on here all the time despite the rules. i give up im outta here on this one